Davefevs Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Read Gregor’s update this morning where it mentioned that Ashley Williams assisted Deano is a coaching capacity last night. Williams sat up in the stand first half before joining Deano and Macca in the dugout second half. Im really surprised LJ didn’t do that....think he got one of them to try it in one game, but that was it. You see so much more up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Read Gregor’s update this morning where it mentioned that Ashley Williams assisted Deano is a coaching capacity last night. Williams sat up in the stand first half before joining Deano and Macca in the dugout second half. Im really surprised LJ didn’t do that....think he got one of them to try it in one game, but that was it. You see so much more up there. i said before that gary owers ought to have a direct line to someones ear down there. he sees a lot of things that need improving during a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Read Gregor’s update this morning where it mentioned that Ashley Williams assisted Deano is a coaching capacity last night. Williams sat up in the stand first half before joining Deano and Macca in the dugout second half. Im really surprised LJ didn’t do that....think he got one of them to try it in one game, but that was it. You see so much more up there. I noticed Dean had an earpiece on so wondered who he was talking to. Williams should have stayed up there in the second half given we played better in the first half! Mind you Dean said he had a splitting headache by half time so perhaps that was due to Williams shouting in his ear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I think Williams in a coaching capacity next year would work. For me his legs have gone but his defensive brain is still very much active. The new boss could do worse than keeping him on as defensive coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I would guess that it has been mentioned on other threads; but it was good to see Holden giving instructions during drinks breaks (as most other managers are doing). LJ never seemed interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: I think Williams in a coaching capacity next year would work. For me his legs have gone but his defensive brain is still very much active. The new boss could do worse than keeping him on as defensive coach The only coach I want for Williams is the one leaving Ashton Gate asap.... ....sure gona' miss ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 99% sure we always have a coach In the top of the lansdown each game, Luke Williams always used to be there feeding back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: I would guess that it has been mentioned on other threads; but it was good to see Holden giving instructions during drinks breaks (as most other managers are doing). LJ never seemed interested. LJ used the time to berate officials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: I think Williams in a coaching capacity next year would work. For me his legs have gone but his defensive brain is still very much active. The new boss could do worse than keeping him on as defensive coach Obviously depends what the new coach wants but Holden - defender, Macca - defender, Williams - defender.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: The only coach I want for Williams is the one leaving Ashton Gate asap.... ....sure gona' miss ya. Harsh. He did a job for a bit. Class defender in his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: Harsh. He did a job for a bit. Class defender in his time He’s a liability. Twice this season he’s lost his head, I could take Brentford, but to do that the other day pissed me off and I hope we never see him in the shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairweather Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Given how poor we have been from balls into the box. I wondered if Macca would survive. I guess new manager puts it all in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey is Right Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Dugout has always had 'Eyes in the stand' with a team of analysts in the gantry filming, analysing and feeding back to the bench. Although typically its gone through one of the coaches feeding back to LJ rather than him having direct communication himself. Obviously DH preferred that direct line, its all individual preference I'd assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 In a training video last week there was a rather coach putting on a session that I didnt recognise. Who was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'd be reluctant to keep anyone from the LJ era in a coaching role. New coach / Manager = new assistants. Either DH + Macca were part of the problem, or too weak to challenge LJ if they disagreed. Which again makes them part of the problem! Either scenario means they are not here next week. Williams is just too inexperienced as a coach, to be considered. His behaviour has been questionable on-field on more than one occasion. Been a valuable player, but better places to learn to coach than a championship side. He'd do very well as an assistant at Newport as a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, SX227 said: I'd be reluctant to keep anyone from the LJ era in a coaching role. New coach / Manager = new assistants. Either DH + Macca were part of the problem, or too weak to challenge LJ if they disagreed. Which again makes them part of the problem! Either scenario means they are not here next week. Williams is just too inexperienced as a coach, to be considered. His behaviour has been questionable on-field on more than one occasion. Been a valuable player, but better places to learn to coach than a championship side. He'd do very well as an assistant at Newport as a starting point. Yep get rid dead wood now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, redsquirrel said: i said before that gary owers ought to have a direct line to someones ear down there. he sees a lot of things that need improving during a game Wasn’t Gary Owers getting Bath City relegated from the Conference South when he got sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bailey is Right said: Dugout has always had 'Eyes in the stand' with a team of analysts in the gantry filming, analysing and feeding back to the bench. Although typically its gone through one of the coaches feeding back to LJ rather than him having direct communication himself. Obviously DH preferred that direct line, its all individual preference I'd assume Which team of analysts at City typically perform that function on match day? 31 minutes ago, pride of the west said: In a training video last week there was a rather coach putting on a session that I didnt recognise. Who was that? Think that was Andrew Proctor, physio, doing the warm-up....if we are thinking of the same person I saw in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, marcofisher said: Wasn’t Gary Owers getting Bath City relegated from the Conference South when he got sacked? No he did very well at Bath before going to Torquay, where he didn't do that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratz260689 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, marcofisher said: Wasn’t Gary Owers getting Bath City relegated from the Conference South when he got sacked? Na they were in the play offs actually, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Carey 6 said: He’s a liability. Twice this season he’s lost his head, I could take Brentford, but to do that the other day pissed me off and I hope we never see him in the shirt again. Yeah, I tend to agree. He’s always been a bit of a thug and now his legs have gone he’s even more of a liability. If he never puts on a City again it will be no great loss. However he was an international defender and has oodles if experience in the game so not to use that would be a waste. I know that LJ was planning to discuss a coaching role with Williams - whether or not he did we don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Bailey is Right said: Dugout has always had 'Eyes in the stand' with a team of analysts in the gantry filming, analysing and feeding back to the bench. Although typically its gone through one of the coaches feeding back to LJ rather than him having direct communication himself. Obviously DH preferred that direct line, its all individual preference I'd assume The advise fell on death ears then with any Comms to LJ. Well he’s gone now so lets look forward to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Yeah, I tend to agree. He’s always been a bit of a thug and now his legs have gone he’s even more of a liability. If he never puts on a City again it will be no great loss. However he was an international defender and has oodles if experience in the game so not to use that would be a waste. I know that LJ was planning to discuss a coaching role with Williams - whether or not he did we don’t know. Williams has a great football brain and a vast amount of experience. I think some kind of coaching role would to suit him and the younger players at the club. I agree no loss if he doesn’t play anymore but he is a great asset if utilised correctly. The longer he keeps playing he will need to take some chill pills as he is obviously getting frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Carey 6 said: He’s a liability. Twice this season he’s lost his head, I could take Brentford, but to do that the other day pissed me off and I hope we never see him in the shirt again. People should apply the same harsh standards to the other centre halves. Williams isn't so bad when compared to the very well paid Kalas and Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Selred said: No he did very well at Bath before going to Torquay, where he didn't do that well. 3 hours ago, Gratz260689 said: Na they were in the play offs actually, My bad, thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, City oz said: Williams has a great football brain and a vast amount of experience. I think some kind of coaching role would to suit him and the younger players at the club. I agree no loss if he doesn’t play anymore but he is a great asset if utilised correctly. The longer he keeps playing he will need to take some chill pills as he is obviously getting frustrated. Any articles or videos on his football brain? Didn’t know that and always interested to hear professional footballers views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Any articles or videos on his football brain? Didn’t know that and always interested to hear professional footballers views Sorry didn’t realise you haven’t seen him play over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Williams is definitely a bit of a liability as a player: Sometimes you need that kind of attitude, sometimes it drags the team down. I think he could probably make a decent coach though fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, City oz said: Sorry didn’t realise you haven’t seen him play over the years. I’ve seen him play. Quite obvious what I thought you meant. No need for flippancy. If you are just going from his style of play then I would say that someone’s ability on a pitch is not necessarily related to his ability to communicate off of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: LJ used the time to berate officials! And then got a couple of games in the stand as a consequence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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