City oz Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Just that thought is enough. Got to get back there as soon as they’ll let us fly. Let me know when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 01:17, SX227 said: For me, that is the million $$ question. BCFC has been SL's own plaything for decades, not costing much (for him) and a distraction while he gets on with building the BS South Bristol Mega Empire. It's now decision time. Will SL be able to let go of 'his precious' and give it to other smarter, better credentialed kids who may do things with it he doesn't like? Or see that the smarter, bigger kids can make his toy better than he could have ever hoped, and it will be much more fun to share it with others when they have transformed it? It's a worry. His own son as Chairman of the Board. His mate who he lets play with his toy (while he watches of course) Mark Ashton, has seeded BCFC with sycophants from previous jobs in many roles behind the scenes. Yes people, like Lisa Knights and Downsey get jobs for which they are obviously ill-equipped to do - but yes people mean SL can do what he likes with his toy. His love affair with the Johnson family is proof personified that if you do what SL demands, then there is room for all the family, even Uncle Pete, to get a minute or two (under supervision again) to play with SL's toy. For SL to appoint a Gerrard or Hughton, just as it was with a Cotts (how did that end - even after making SL's toy better than ever) or a Coppell (again, how did that go?) - means SL needs to alter his mindset so much, that I'm not sure he can. It's probably why people like Warnock and Moyes never got considered, while LJ was groomed for the job 2-3 yrs before he got it. A yes man won't stop SL being in 100% control of his toy - ever. Lansdown needs to decide wether BCFC is his toy for life, or wether the Rugby / Flyers success has shown him that sharing can indeed be ok after all. Because if he decides it will be his toy for life, then Holden, Appleby or Flynn are the next coach and there will be a huge player exodus - players of quality who want to succeed. Still, we can watch Pato,COD and Whiner Weimann run around pointlessly for 90 minutes as his toy slides down the Championship table. And out of it. Mind you - a L1 promotion in the next few years sounds fun though eh? OR - SL can see that the time is NOW to step back, give his toy to a proven winning manager who has been there, and done that- one that will make it a toy that is moulded into an elite professional Football Club that gets into, and stays in, The Premier League. BCFC can be a behemoth. Ditch a dozen deadwood players to sign the 3 that will make all the difference - 2 elite midfielders and a top class keeper. That's all we probably need to have a really good shot of going up. BUT.... SL will HAVE to give his toy to someone else who will have full control of it. To remove the 'boot-room for the boys' culture - from DM,DH,Scotty (sorry Scotty) down to every single person appointed by SL, Ashton or a Johnson - they have to go. All of them. It is the only way it will work - SL has to let go, sit back, remove the sycophants that are strangling any semblance of free thought and give a new man unfettered control over his toy. Complete 100% control. No interference. Then you get a Hughton, Gerrard or McCarthy. Otherwise they just can't do what they need to do to get BCFC to the Prem - and stay there. Your choice Mr Lansdown - it's your toy, lock stock and barrel. Can you let the big kids have it and make it better, or will it be forever smothered in your embrace. I hope you can let go Steve, because the toy you will get back could be magnificent. Thankyou mate. At last someone totally on the same page as me concerning SL. Unfortunately in the likely event that SL has not had a massive change of mind, you and I and other similiarly-minded, devoted, pathetically cursed, City-mad, long-suffering ****ers, have to prepare ourselves ourselves for yet another uninspiring, mediocre, Premiership-unqualified, yes-man in the pantheon of Mr Lansdown's guttless appointments. I could be wrong ......................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, SX227 said: I'm not mate. While the aubergine crew are choking on SL's largesse in the back of their throats, I wonder how they feel about Lansdown and Ashton interviewing Flynn for the job yesterday? Yes - Flynn of Newport County. Not Gerrard. Not Hughton. Flynn. It’s only an interview so no drama yet BUT if we end up with Mike Flynn after the rugger lot got Pat Lam then our position in the Bristol Sport hierarchy becomes crystal clear in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: It’s only an interview so no drama yet BUT if we end up with Mike Flynn after the rugger lot got Pat Lam then our position in the Bristol Sport hierarchy becomes crystal clear in my view. Spot on and no amount of spin will be able to tell us otherwise. Hopefully our concerns will turn out to be unwarrented, but they’re certainly justified, given SL’s form on the managerial appointment front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 01:33, Mr Popodopolous said: Hughton, Jokanovic or Cook please. All would want a certain amount of autonomy yet both of the first two especially have worked under DoF or Sporting Directors IIRC. Unsure about Cook in terms of the latter! Think both sides will need to give a bit- dunno if a new manager can have 100% control or autonomy but a lot, and the club will need to make adjustments/tweaks to the model as well. Yes i hope john Terry is just a joke its experience we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, southvillekiddy said: Thankyou mate. At last someone totally on the same page as me concerning SL. Unfortunately in the likely event that SL has not had a massive change of mind, you and I and other similiarly-minded, devoted, pathetically cursed, City-mad, long-suffering ****ers, have to prepare ourselves ourselves for yet another uninspiring, mediocre, Premiership-unqualified, yes-man in the pantheon of Mr Lansdown's guttless appointments. I could be wrong ......................................................... What, like that uninspiring Conference Manager with no upper league experience Gary Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: What, like that uninspiring Conference Manager with no upper league experience Gary Johnson? Apologies if you are being sarcastic (I’ve bitten in that case ), but Gary’s managerial pedigree was pretty decent, even though many just saw him as a Conference Manager and not good enough. He’d had a fair bit of success, managed internationally, as well as some good mentors (relative to his background). Certainly better than his son’s suitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: What, like that uninspiring Conference Manager with no upper league experience Gary Johnson? Sorry, missed the point mate. Despite claiming he wants Premiership football, SL has never appointed a manager with experience of achieving promotion to the Premership or Premiership experience (with the exception of the disaster zone Coppell, we all know why that was a no-no from the start) This is a big test for SL for the most obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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