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I am seriously thinking we might have to take on Holden. He is doing what i would expect from LJ and that's all I wanted in the first place. High energy, good football and solid enough without the ball.

Not perfect a times today of course, but he's doing very well.

We clearly deserved the win imo and could well have scored a few more.

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He's simply picking our best team.

JD starts because he's the best left back rather than worrying about their attack, Callam benched. 3 quality centre backs - Vyner learning (from the match day squad experience not pitch) and Fam / Wells supported up front.

Even Weimann and Pato look comfortable in the middle - think it's Andi's best game in 2020.

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20 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Allowed them to play with more freedom and less backward passing that was killing our attacking play.

Even O'Dowda might have run toward the opposition goal if he had played.

He did play....and he did run at the opposition goal before double backing, after leaving a couple of defenders standing....then lost the ball 

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There were many things LJ would not have done the same today. Obviously he would not have played Benkovic and would not have gone 352 and we would have not even looked close to the team we did.

And I doubt he ever would have brought off Fam in this game because of his ability to defend corners. I thought Holden should have brought him off a little bit earlier as his legs had gone.

The Watkins and O'Dowda on for Diedhiou and Wells helped us in having a bit of energy up top, bit of pace and still having a bit of physical presence.

I wouldn't say either O'Dowda or Watkins were great, but they did more than what Fam and Wells would have done by that point in the game, having both ran so much.

My point is LJ would have kept Diedhiou on for his heading ability on corners. But because his legs were gone it would have invited more pressure from them and just resulted in more corners to actually defend. Better to push them back a little than it is inviting pressure and relying on throwing bodies at everything.

I thought the same when we used to not bring Wilbs off when he looked knackered and we were holding on. We'd probably concede chances because of it. It's a simple thing but Holden showed he knows that its best to just keep them away from our goal rather than frantically defending in our six yard box!

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Square peg, square hole.

I think as time went on, LJ lost the plot a bit and probably fell out with players along the way. Became stubborn and things started to go tits up.

Holden has gone back to basics and to be fair, has decent players to use at his disposal.

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24 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

I am seriously thinking we might have to take on Holden. He is doing what i would expect from LJ and that's all I wanted in the first place. High energy, good football and solid enough without the ball.

Not perfect a times today of course, but he's doing very well.

We clearly deserved the win imo and could well have scored a few more.

Dont be ridiculous. Would be a daft appointment

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26 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

I am seriously thinking we might have to take on Holden. He is doing what i would expect from LJ and that's all I wanted in the first place. High energy, good football and solid enough without the ball.

Not perfect a times today of course, but he's doing very well.

We clearly deserved the win imo and could well have scored a few more.

Get a grip..........2 games against two of the poorest teams in the league, does not a season make.   Holden is a caretaker manager who is taking care, with no pressure, he is NOT  the answer to our long term ambitions.  Talk about a Knee-Jerk reaction?

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2 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

What if we end up thinking wow I hope the new manager plays like that?

I'm thinking 'wow, I hope the new manager gets them playing like that, and knows how to maintain that performance over a season'. I agree that DH has done very well, I'd keep him on the staff but what we need is some experience of the graft required for promotion.

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1 minute ago, maxjak said:

Get a grip..........2 games against two of the poorest teams in the league, does not a season make.   Holden is a caretaker manager who is taking care, with no pressure, he is NOT  the answer to our long term ambitions.  Talk about a Knee-Jerk reaction?

Hmm so if we play really good football and win games, which is all we all want, then I should 'get a grip' because I want the manager to stay on who is making that happen? 😂

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The other factors that must be taken into consideration are that the pressure has been off the players and expectations have been minimal. Even when we were playing well and playing a seemingly 'inferior' side we struggle when we're expected to win. I'm not saying we're a team of bottlers because confidence and momentum come from winning but the signs are better. 

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1 minute ago, JonDolman said:

Hmm so if we play really good football and win games, which is all we all want, then I should 'get a grip' because I want the manager to stay on who is making that happen? 😂

Careful what you wish for?  You are basing your reasoning on 2 games( I repeat) against two of the worst teams in the Championship.   I think it might be wise to see what happens against the next 3 teams, before we start offering LJ's right hand man the keys to the drinks cabinet

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Feels very similar to when Pemberton took over for a few games. Made some adjustments, played players to their strengths and played with freedom. 
 

I think we all knew the squad was better than recent form, it was obvious we just needed a change and some fresh impetus. Things were probably stale behind the scenes. Well done Dean.

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1 minute ago, maxjak said:

Careful what you wish for?  You are basing your reasoning on 2 games( I repeat) against two of the worst teams in the Championship.   I think it might be wise to see what happens against the next 3 teams, before we start offering LJ's right hand man the keys to the drinks cabinet

I think we have seen something that can be built upon. It is only 2 games but my point is if he keeps this up till the end of the season, and thats only if he does, then it might be hard to not give him the job.

If he is winning games and playing football we want to see then it will be hard to bring in someone that we don't know what they will do.

We bring in Houghton and he won't go with what Holden does.

I'm not saying Houghton won't succeed. But then again he might fail with what he has to work with and we might regret not keeping Holden on.

Lets see how he does till the end of the season. I bet people will change their minds on it if he does very well after an impressive start.

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