Colombo Robin Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, sephjnr said: If SL thinks they are a separate quality then we're in bigger trouble than we thought. You look good by being successful, not the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, mozo said: Imagine if you will Major that you're a young woman out in town and looking for a date (there you are in your high heels and short skirt...) That night you get the number of two blokes. The first is called Hughton. He's a handsome enough chap, perhaps a little dull but you get the impression he's husband material. The second is called Gerrard. He's the sexy option and he'll look great in your Instagram selfies, but you don't know if he'll treat you right. Do you give him a chance to prove himself, or is it too much of a risk? Where's Houghton in all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'd be pleased with Gerrard personally. Like the way his Rangers side play and they have narrowed the gap with Celtic despite them having a much bigger budget and had a good run in the Europa league. He's obviously a massive name as well and we will become much more appealing to players with him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, maxjak said: On Oddschecker at 10.59 am Houghton is 6/5 Gerrard 8/1...........so talk of the Liverpudlian maestro's odds falling are just not true. Houghton is a shoo in, the bookies rarely get it wrong. Ray Houghtons in the frame now, well I never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: latest make Steve Gerrard favourite https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/bristol-city/next-permanent-manager Hard to believe that 40% of the bets have gone on Cotts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I didn’t realise quite how big Gerard is . We're not a big club, remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 The fact that nobody is short odds-on suggest that the bookies don’t know who’s really in the running. This won’t be a big book in the grand scheme of things, and they aren’t gonna lose any money unless people suddenly get a whiff of an appointment and get in before they react (unlikely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, maxjak said: On Oddschecker at 10.59 am Houghton is 6/5 Gerrard 8/1...........so talk of the Liverpudlian maestro's odds falling are just not true. Houghton is a shoo in, the bookies rarely get it wrong. Just before i posted i checked elsewhere, and on Skybet Gerrard IS 6//4, so thats a big difference. However I trust Oddscheckers spokesman who seems convinced Houghton is the man for us. Confusing isn't it? Gerrards odds are falling. Look at some of the bookies websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, mozo said: Imagine if you will Major that you're a young woman out in town and looking for a date (there you are in your high heels and short skirt...) That night you get the number of two blokes. The first is called Hughton. He's a handsome enough chap, perhaps a little dull but you get the impression he's husband material. The second is called Gerrard. He's the sexy option and he'll look great in your Instagram selfies, but you don't know if he'll treat you right. Do you give him a chance to prove himself, or is it too much of a risk? Me in my younger days. I would probably have taken them both on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Gerrards odds are falling. Look at some of the bookies websites U r correct, it would seem the normally reliable Oddschecker is not up to speed. and that Paddy Power and Skybet have Gerrard as equal favourite. I give up, i think, like everyone else i will just wait and see. Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, maxjak said: U r correct, it would seem the normally reliable Oddschecker is not up to speed. and that Paddy Power and Skybet have Gerrard as equal favourite. I give up, i think, like everyone else i will just wait and see. Thanks for the update. Wait and see and hope it’s Hughton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Ray Houghtons in the frame now, well I never Sidesplitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The fact that nobody is short odds-on suggest that the bookies don’t know who’s really in the running. This won’t be a big book in the grand scheme of things, and they aren’t gonna lose any money unless people suddenly get a whiff of an appointment and get in before they react (unlikely). Robbie Fowler was on the news tonight. He’s leaving OZ for an opportunity in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Personally, I'm still more keen on Hughton. I'm a bit apprehensive about Gerrard; it's a massive risk but I do understand the benefits that his name carries alone. However, can we be bothered to watch another manager learn his trade for the next few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 12 hours ago, ScottishRed said: It doesn’t stop individuals having two ‘jobs’. 12 hours ago, James54De said: Just forget the idea. It would not be allowed. 100%. Rooney gets 50k per week as a player & 50k per week as a coach. Coaching wages don't count towards FFP. Of course Derby are the masters of FFP loopholes, but I'm sure there could be other potential holes. Not that I'd want to see our club go down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, City oz said: Robbie Fowler was on the news tonight. He’s leaving OZ for an opportunity in the UK Birmingham I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, City oz said: Robbie Fowler was on the news tonight. He’s leaving OZ for an opportunity in the UK Linked with Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Linked with Birmingham. On the news ABC oz it was suggested he has been appointed as a head coach but it didn’t say the club and his four kids are looking forward to living back in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, grifty said: So we shouldn’t go for Gerrard because Lampard didn’t get Derby promoted? Also LJ was a midfielder, Gerrard was a midfielder. We must never appoint a former midfielder as manager ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: Rooney gets 50k per week as a player & 50k per week as a coach. Coaching wages don't count towards FFP. Of course Derby are the masters of FFP loopholes, but I'm sure there could be other potential holes. Not that I'd want to see our club go down that route. The 50:50 role only applies to Lg1 and Lg2 so was a bit of a myth for Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: Of course Derby are the masters of FFP loopholes, but I'm sure there could be other potential holes. Plenty of a***holes at Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Also LJ was a midfielder, Gerrard was a midfielder. We must never appoint a former midfielder as manager ever again. That’s why Fowler was a forward. Wait and see, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Linked with Birmingham. And Tranmere I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, City oz said: Robbie Fowler was on the news tonight. He’s leaving OZ for an opportunity in the UK I'd rather Arthur Fowler or maybe even Pauline !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: We're not a big club, remember But we do have a big, big benefactor ( big shame he's fwightened of people who know about football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sephjnr said: Such a staggering failure that Chelsea got him the first chance they had. where he continues to fail and blunder into the third best team in the country. You’ve specularly missed the point there. It worked out brilliant for Frank, no denying that. Not so much for derby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: The fact that nobody is short odds-on suggest that the bookies don’t know who’s really in the running. This won’t be a big book in the grand scheme of things, and they aren’t gonna lose any money unless people suddenly get a whiff of an appointment and get in before they react (unlikely). Exactly this, nobody has a clue who our next manager will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said: You’ve specularly missed the point there. It worked out brilliant for Frank, no denying that. Not so much for derby though. It would have been a number of different reasons but one big reason why Chelsea appointed Frank in the first place would have been because his season at Derby was successful, if he'd finished 13th do you really think they'd have still gone for him? Its part of football be successful and there's a good chance you lose the people that make you successful. For Gerrard to move on from here it would probably be because he'd be successful with us. If it were the same circumstances, losing a play off final and Gerrard taking a prem job, its another season of enhancing our reputation and making us more attractive again to higher standard managers and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lrrr said: It would have been a number of different reasons but one big reason why Chelsea appointed Frank in the first place would have been because his season at Derby was successful, if he'd finished 13th do you really think they'd have still gone for him? Its part of football be successful and there's a good chance you lose the people that make you successful. For Gerrard to move on from here it would probably be because he'd be successful with us. If it were the same circumstances, losing a play off final and Gerrard taking a prem job, its another season of enhancing our reputation and making us more attractive again to higher standard managers and players. 100% agree on all of this. The point I’m making is that Derby did not progress under FF. They either plateaued or stagnated, depending on perspective. Our appointment needs to propel us and the model (of 1) doesn’t show that this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Galway Red said: Exactly this, nobody has a clue who our next manager will be Agree with you mate. SL and his acolytes will be wetting themselves at us gullible fans entertaining the idea that we will get somebody who is qualified to take us to the Promised Land. All the time knowing that they have the bloke from Newport County lined up "An outstanding candidate from a staggering field of applicants" Unless SL has had a massive change of personality we will not get anyone of proven Premiership promotion quality or capability. Hope he isn't going to do one of his barmy Steve Coppell/David James gambles. If so we could end up with Gerrard and that is bound to fail IMHO. It would also give him more spurious ammunition to resist ambitious managerial appointments. Hey Ho. We are cursed. Truly hope that I am wrong and that he has the guts to go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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