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Steven Gerrard


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7 minutes ago, mozo said:

Angus weighing it up...

 

Also, to play devils advocaat, Hughton will cost more. If it’s true that he wants control of transfers we’ll see less players brought in for the future, more players brought in for now, with less resell potential. Whereas Gerrard will bring money in immediately on a commercial level, as well as cost less as he will play youth etc. 

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29 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

You mock, but name another manager as vertically challenged as Lee? Or even more challenged?

A quick bit of googling tells me that both Gordon Strachan and Dennis Wise are they same height and Billy Davies is 1 inch shorter. 

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8 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said:

That would be an emotional decision. How do you define "prove himself?"

By ‘prove himself’ I meant Gerrard needs to take a more challenging job than the one he’s got at Rangers - if he could improve a club in the championship and show he can develop players and motivate a squad to make real progress then I will be more convinced he can be trusted at the helm of Liverpool in four or five years time 

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3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

By ‘prove himself’ I meant Gerrard needs to take a more challenging job than the one he’s got at Rangers - if he could improve a club in the championship and show he can develop players and motivate a squad to make real progress then I will be more convinced he can be trusted at the helm of Liverpool in four or five years time 

Get's us promoted and then we beat Liverpool home and away in our inaugural season, that would do it. :) 

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1 hour ago, Hampshire reds said:

if stevie G took the job he will want big money to spend on players . i would say 30m. will that be available to him. i doubt it. 

If Chris Hughton took the job he will want big money to spend on players. 
His successes in this division have come with either parachute payments or a club ‘going for broke’ with big spend and big salary. 
Yes, he’s been there and done it at this level, but with money. 
Of the two candidates, I would say Hughton would be the one asking for bigger funds. 

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14 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Get's us promoted and then we beat Liverpool home and away in our inaugural season, that would do it. :) 

Sounds ideal and almost possible. Lets go for a home win and a draw away against Liverpool in 2021/22. 

COYR

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3 minutes ago, Harry said:

If Chris Hughton took the job he will want big money to spend on players. 
His successes in this division have come with either parachute payments or a club ‘going for broke’ with big spend and big salary. 
Yes, he’s been there and done it at this level, but with money. 
Of the two candidates, I would say Hughton would be the one asking for bigger funds. 

Where is the evidence for him spending big? Or any bigger than how we’ve been spending these last 2 years? Hughton made some clever signings in the summer before Brighton were promoted to Prem. He signed Shane Duffy from Blackburn for 4 million, Knockaert from Standard Liege for £3 million. He also found Hemed for £1.2 million from LaLiga 2, and also picked up some clever free transfers in the champ like Bobby Zamora, Rosenior, Bong, Sidwell. Bloke has an eye for good signings that won’t break the bank. He only actually spent big when they got to the Prem which obviously is fine within reason

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Just now, Kingswoodactor said:

Where is the evidence for him spending big? Or any bigger than how we’ve been spending these last 2 years? Hughton made some clever signings in the summer before Brighton were promoted to Prem. He signed Shane Duffy from Blackburn for 4 million, Knockaert from Standard Liege for £3 million. He also found Hemed for £1.2 million from LaLiga 2, and also picked up some clever free transfers in the champ like Bobby Zamora, Rosenior, Bong, Sidwell. Bloke has an eye for good signings that won’t break the bank. He only actually spent big when they got to the Prem which obviously is fine within reason

there isn't, 

He didn't spend that big at Norwich ether did he?

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5 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Where is the evidence for him spending big? Or any bigger than how we’ve been spending these last 2 years? Hughton made some clever signings in the summer before Brighton were promoted to Prem. He signed Shane Duffy from Blackburn for 4 million, Knockaert from Standard Liege for £3 million. He also found Hemed for £1.2 million from LaLiga 2, and also picked up some clever free transfers in the champ like Bobby Zamora, Rosenior, Bong, Sidwell. Bloke has an eye for good signings that won’t break the bank. He only actually spent big when they got to the Prem which obviously is fine within reason

Wages would have been huge on all of them - Knockaert, Zamora and Sidwell especially. 

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23 minutes ago, Redpool said:

Tells us nothing we don’t already know 

No, it's only his take on it, which I think most of us think too. I only shared it because he's a celeb fan and thought one or two might be interested. 

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39 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said:

Also, to play devils advocaat, Hughton will cost more. If it’s true that he wants control of transfers we’ll see less players brought in for the future, more players brought in for now, with less resell potential. Whereas Gerrard will bring money in immediately on a commercial level, as well as cost less as he will play youth etc. 

Devil’s advocaat?  I think I had a few glasses of that on a night out in Amsterdam once...

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Just now, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Devil’s advocaat?  I think I had a few glasses of that on a night out in Amsterdam once...

He didn't last long at Sunderland but had a good stint with Dutch national team...

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42 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

By ‘prove himself’ I meant Gerrard needs to take a more challenging job than the one he’s got at Rangers - if he could improve a club in the championship and show he can develop players and motivate a squad to make real progress then I will be more convinced he can be trusted at the helm of Liverpool in four or five years time 

Like Lampard, I think if they were looking for a new manager, he will get the job on trust, purely due to the legend status he has with the fans. Though a lot depends on how Klopp follows up this season. He could be Liverpool's Ferguson and be there another 20 years and bring them huge success.

Did Lampard really do anything at Derby to deserve an immediate hike up the ranks to be in charge of one of the biggest clubs in world football? Not in my opinion, but he got the job because of who he was and not what he did. 

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9 minutes ago, ChubStixx said:

Pursuits like this always seem to lead to disappointment for us, but if you don't try...

Think I'd prefer CH myself though.

Nah second choice Robbie Fowler my money is on 

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Mick McCarthy presumably applied, based on the fact that the media were quickly made aware of his “interest”.

Plus as he looks like he’s getting the Brum job, I reckon Aitor Karanka probably has, too.

We don’t know who else has, but if as now appears to be likely, we haven’t seriously considered a manager who has won the Championship title (twice), qualified for a World Cup & the Euros playoffs, it is a reasonable assumption to make that there were quality applicants.

If Mick McCarthy, a manager you correctly state has won the Championship title twice, kept an Ipswich team in the Championship for years on a budget that even the Blue Few Manager would be moaning about, qualified for a World Cup and reached a Euro's play off with a very limited Ireland team, did apply for our job it would be interesting to know why he was unable to make the apparent "final four" shortlist behind Ryan Lowe and Lee Bowyer.

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5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Like Lampard, I think if they were looking for a new manager, he will get the job on trust, purely due to the legend status he has with the fans. Though a lot depends on how Klopp follows up this season. He could be Liverpool's Ferguson and be there another 20 years and bring them huge success.

Did Lampard really do anything at Derby to deserve an immediate hike up the ranks to be in charge of one of the biggest clubs in world football? Not in my opinion, but he got the job because of who he was and not what he did. 

At 53, twenty years is unlikely. At a guess from one or two comments I've read, Klopp may only want four/five years more.

Gerrard needs two to three in a tough league before going back to Liverpool as number two for a period before a seamless move to number one.

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29 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said:

Wages would have been huge on all of them - Knockaert, Zamora and Sidwell especially. 

Yeah but my point being, were their wages at the time back in 2016, any more than we've paid in the past for players like David James, Gary ONeil? Or this season with players like Kalas, Afobe. Sure Benkovic wont have been cheap either. 

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1 minute ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Yeah but my point being, were their wages at the time back in 2016, any more than we've paid in the past for players like David James, Gary ONeil? Or this season with players like Kalas, Afobe. Sure Benkovic wont have been cheap either. 

Or simply add up the wages of the totally "wasted" players in our squad, ones who have done alright (nothing more) when loaned out to league 2, are literally 15th choice substitute in the pecking order and who will NEVER play for us at Championship level, and that will give you a decent player or two that you can bring in.

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9 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

At 53, twenty years is unlikely. At a guess from one or two comments I've read, Klopp may only want four/five years more.

Gerrard needs two to three in a tough league before going back to Liverpool as number two for a period before a seamless move to number one.

I thought Klopp was a bit younger than that! Must be that infectious smile...!

I agree, I think Lampard got the job far too soon, after a fairly average spell with Derby, though he is doing a good job so it's not to say it wouldn't work out. 

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44 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said:

Wages would have been huge on all of them - Knockaert, Zamora and Sidwell especially. 

It was well known in Sussex that Brighton had a salary cap for themselves in the champioship, wages no bigger than what we are paying..

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