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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Good post WoW.

The only thing I don’t agree with is the MA transfer stuff.  Yes, he’s hugely involved but no manager, least of all Chris Hughton is gonna let him make final decisions on players (especially those coming in).  Of course Ashton will present a case to him, and Hughton will need to weigh that up against his plans.

I would imagine Hughton is in that bracket of managers going for jobs where there will always be potential for there to be a better candidate.  Just nature of the position he’s in.

Being the second choice for any position in any industry is not unheard of. in fact it happens in a very high percentage of cases.

So if it's Hughton, bring him in and let's get the preparation for September under way.

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What puzzles me is what is the question to which the answer is either:

a) Stevie G - unproven, big name, offers lots of media profile for 'Steven Gerrard's Bristol City'

or b) Chris Hughton - sober, serious, serial promotion winner

The first is presumably an answer to the question 'what can we do to raise the profile of this club, and hopefully move upwards'. Stevie fits the bill. The second is an answer to 'who could we appoint who will give us the best assurance we can get in an uncertain world of a crack at the Premier League any time soon.'

I know which I'd rather have. But it puzzles me that two such utterly different candidates should be the club's targets.

I fear that allowing it to be known that we were chasing Gerrard, and failing to get him, confirms every suspicion that Bristol City are slightly desperate wannabes.

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34 minutes ago, phantom said:

@mozo I had a quick glance online, not surprisingly stories have been swallowed up and overtaken

The only thing I can find at the moment is the Talksport reference https://talksport.com/football/efl/733793/steven-gerrard-interest-leave-rangers-bristol-city-manager/

Well it's all academic now anyway.  Looks like Talksport were right and hopefully equally so regards Hughton (imo).

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

Brilliant!

You never engage on here anyway, just numerous petty aubergines 

I'm sure that you said you were going to block me?

Maybe do us both a favour and hit the block

I'm not sure that we will ever know

I engage with those that I feel like. 
In terms of blocking, if I knew where that wonderful button lay, it’d have been clicked a long time ago. 

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2 hours ago, Red_Alligator said:

No Gerrard fixation here and no need to be pedantic (it's "isn't" by the way) Anyhow, he's done nothing, whatever their "top" division is called - AND this is in Scottish football, hardly the most competitive of environs.  

Yep, apologies for the pedantry! Gerrard needs to either win shedload of trophies north of the border or get out and prove himself in the championship - his credentials are being scrutinised by lots of people who think he could have a big future as a manager

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2 hours ago, James54De said:

I engage with those that I feel like. 
In terms of blocking, if I knew where that wonderful button lay, it’d have been clicked a long time ago. 

You really are a tosser

Ironic how you said you don't interact with this poster yet you are clearly obsessed with leaving emojis everywhere and constantly try and wind them up. Do the forum a favor and get a life

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Also an unrealistic fantasy for us at this time he has unfinished business in an average Scottish premiership. But being a manager of a team playing European football more of a draw. So not disappointed 😔 that he has turned us down. In long run think this is for the best. 

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5 hours ago, Red Exile said:

What puzzles me is what is the question to which the answer is either:

a) Stevie G - unproven, big name, offers lots of media profile for 'Steven Gerrard's Bristol City'

or b) Chris Hughton - sober, serious, serial promotion winner

The first is presumably an answer to the question 'what can we do to raise the profile of this club, and hopefully move upwards'. Stevie fits the bill. The second is an answer to 'who could we appoint who will give us the best assurance we can get in an uncertain world of a crack at the Premier League any time soon.'

I know which I'd rather have. But it puzzles me that two such utterly different candidates should be the club's targets.

I fear that allowing it to be known that we were chasing Gerrard, and failing to get him, confirms every suspicion that Bristol City are slightly desperate wannabes.

In fairness to the club, given our track record on keeping things like this close to our chests, I doubt that anyone at the club "allowed it to be known" that we were chasing Gerrard. However, we obviously have little control if others in the know, such as agents , ensure the information gets into the media.

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Whatever the negativity there is about MA & SL that may be spread on these pages, I think it's hard to deny that BCFC act professionally and don't do their business in public. We do not have owners and a Board who wash their laundry in public- unlike so many Chairman.

Call me old fashioned but just about every Manager currently in a hot seat has, according to contractual law and FA rules,  seek permission to speak to a prospective new employer whilst a football club HAS to seek permission to approach an under contract Manager or face a "tapping up" charge.

So Gerrard has , according to the Mc Gregor, turned down the offer of a job at BCFC- with no interview and no permission from his parent Club.

REALLY?      REALLY?

So MA has had a private discussion with Gerrard without permission and Gerrard has turned down the approach without so much as a squeak from Glasgow Rangers Football Club? 

Come on, FFS ,Gregor Mc Click Bait- it may be that BCFC had made enquiries but as to a full offer of new Manager and full decline- this is just BS.

Gregor Mc Gregor is already beside himself that Talk Sport has released news that Houghton has accepted the position as he'd want a " I can exclusively report....." which he now can't claim . BCFC will make an announcement as and when they are ready and 100% not through a failing local paper that no one buys any more that relies mainly on click bait ( yes I'm guilty of clicking) .

I have no doubt that Gerrard was "sounded out" and may well have been a target but would have have to have had to go through a formal interview process which could ONLY happen with the permission of Rangers which 100% they would have denied.

The world has and is going mad but not that mad.

Gregor- please don't treat us as all daft but I'm sure we all understand how important it is to keep us clicking in these "unprecedented times" and help keep your job.

 

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1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

You don’t think Gerrard was contacted via his agent? That’s how it works. That’s why agents exist...

Yes - maybe- but it wouldn't have been a " here's the job , here's the salary,here's the budget and don't worry about an interview cos you've got the job.... p.s. don't mention it to your massive employers"

SL aint stupid and would have wanted to speak personally to Gerrard before making a decision . IMO.

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2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Yes - maybe- but it wouldn't have been a " here's the job , here's the salary,here's the budget and don't worry about an interview cos you've got the job.... p.s. don't mention it to your massive employers"

 Hmm - that’s exactly how it would have been framed. Had SG been interested then an official approach would have been made. Not sure what your point is tbh

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Just now, TonyTonyTony said:

 Hmm - that’s exactly how it would have been framed. Had SG been interested then an official approach would have been made. Not sure what your point is tbh

My point is that he was never formally offered the job so never formally turned it down as reported by McGregor.BCFC were just seeing who was potentially available. McGregor does NOT have the inside track on the boardroom discussions.

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Just now, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

My point is that he was never formally offered the job so never formally turned it down as reported by McGregor.BCFC were just seeing who was potentially available. McGregor does NOT have the inside track on the boardroom discussions.

You mean : shock ! Horror ! Journos make shit up?

Thats their job

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8 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

My point is that he was never formally offered the job so never formally turned it down as reported by McGregor.BCFC were just seeing who was potentially available. McGregor does NOT have the inside track on the boardroom discussions.

He has other inside tracks though. Of course SG wasn't "formally" offered the job. When has that ever been suggested?

Fact is, sorry IMO, that we found out that SG was interested in a move back south of the border if the right opportunity arose and that BCFC *could" be such an opportunity. SG, not all that surprisingly, after being properly sounded out didn't fancy it. 

We tried, but it wasn't meant to be. Fine, move on. Appoint your second choice.

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2 minutes ago, castle red said:

Gerrard never going to happen, Houghton been on his hols ,deal done ,in over the weekend....

I do wonder if the Gerrard stuff was a bit of a smokescreen where, given his agent is well known to MA and others, all parties were happy to allow the story to run for a bit before 'rejecting' our interest once we got to a stage where we were close to an agreement with Hughton.

Our supposed interest in Gerrard also serves the purpose for him/his agent of putting the idea out there that he'd be open to a move back to England if the right job came up. That was probably never likely to be us but it could be a more high profile Championship or PL club. 

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