Hampshire reds Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 if you believe what you read in the papers. if chris is the man we want then we have to move quickly. Birmingham are ready to offer him there job. like i say if you believe the papers. Does anyone think a decision will be made before this season finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: if you believe what you read in the papers. if chris is the man we want then we have to move quickly. Birmingham are ready to offer him there job. like i say if you believe the papers. Does anyone think a decision will be made before this season finishes. He's currently 14/1 with sky bet so will be interesting to see if those odds shorten. Lee Bowyer is currently favourite with Robbie Fowler second which would be a massive gamble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Bowyer ex-Brum player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 I understood he's waiting for the right club to come along. One predominantly that will be stable. Birmingham are not stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: if you believe what you read in the papers. if chris is the man we want then we have to move quickly. Birmingham are ready to offer him there job. like i say if you believe the papers. Does anyone think a decision will be made before this season finishes. I don't believe the papers, so everything you said after that, can I ignore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Shaun Taylor said: He's currently 14/1 with sky bet so will be interesting to see if those odds shorten. Lee Bowyer is currently favourite with Robbie Fowler second which would be a massive gamble Not sure where you get 14/1 from. Currently 6/5 on skybet unless you mean for the Brum job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, WarksRobin said: Not sure where you get 14/1 from. Currently 6/5 on skybet Think he’s on about Hughton’s odds for the Birmingham job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 I reckon Hughton could be waiting for the Fulham job. I honestly think Chris' slightly been overrated on here, he's had parachute payments at every club he's managed at this level and very experienced players. Brighton are the exception, but completely busted FFP guidelines to get up. Great record at this level but some context is needed. Stockdale, Knockaert, Kayal, etc were all supposedly on circa £30kpw at BHA. Newcastle, he had the same squad they basically came down with. Birmingham still had deep pockets at the point he was in charge (?). For those reasons I hope its Jokanovic. Took an astute italian-assembled squad from Zola, which finished 12 in 2014 and had 3 managers before he took over in the start of October, and hauled them up to finishing second with a game to spare. And we know his record at Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: Not sure where you get 14/1 from. Currently 6/5 on skybet I'm not sure if mines valid or not after looking a yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Clubs will wait for a bit as a few PL managers will become available IMHO. Farke, DS - maybe Eddie Howe although that’s probably unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Something in my head tells me that if we havent made a move for Chris Hughton yet then chances are it wont be him,i would still like to see Jokanovic here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Fuber said: I reckon Hughton could be waiting for the Fulham job. I honestly think Chris' slightly been overrated on here, he's had parachute payments at every club he's managed at this level and very experienced players. Brighton are the exception, but completely busted FFP guidelines to get up. Great record at this level but some context is needed. Stockdale, Knockaert, Kayal, etc were all supposedly on circa £30kpw at BHA. Newcastle, he had the same squad they basically came down with. Birmingham still had deep pockets at the point he was in charge (?). For those reasons I hope its Jokanovic. Took an astute italian-assembled squad from Zola, which finished 12 in 2014 and had 3 managers before he took over in the start of October, and hauled them up to finishing second with a game to spare. And we know his record at Fulham. They didn’t bust FFP at all. But they massively increased wage bill (and losses as a result) in their promotion season. Had they not got promoted then they would’ve needed to scale back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Let’s recall what SL has said so far - In one breath he says "We're looking for a particular type & don't want to throw away what LJ did" Next breath "We want to get to The Prem ASAP" Sounds like "Cake & Eat it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Let’s recall what SL has said so far - In one breath he says "We're looking for a particular type & don't want to throw away what LJ did" Next breath "We want to get to The Prem ASAP" Sounds like "Cake & Eat it" Shame he didn't get rid of LJ sooner then, 2 years ago would have been good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: They didn’t bust FFP at all. But they massively increased wage bill (and losses as a result) in their promotion season. Had they not got promoted then they would’ve needed to scale back. Exactly, I do wonder whether we play FFP a little too literally at times. It’s sport and if you want success, you have to gamble to some degree. Another way to work with if FFP is not to carry too big a squad bug make sure the wages you pay are on quality - I think that could be said of Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, JonDolman said: Agree I think Houghton is overrated too. But I'd rather him than Robbie Fowler! How on earth is he 2nd favourite!? Very strange. Nutter in charge. As the meerkat says. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Fuber said: I reckon Hughton could be waiting for the Fulham job. I honestly think Chris' slightly been overrated on here, he's had parachute payments at every club he's managed at this level and very experienced players. Brighton are the exception, but completely busted FFP guidelines to get up. Great record at this level but some context is needed. Stockdale, Knockaert, Kayal, etc were all supposedly on circa £30kpw at BHA. Newcastle, he had the same squad they basically came down with. Birmingham still had deep pockets at the point he was in charge (?). For those reasons I hope its Jokanovic. Took an astute italian-assembled squad from Zola, which finished 12 in 2014 and had 3 managers before he took over in the start of October, and hauled them up to finishing second with a game to spare. And we know his record at Fulham. Given heavy infrastructure expenditure I'm not sure if Brighton did- I remember raising it a while back with Kieran Maguire and he pointed out, x y and z. I think they likely passed. Nonetheless, if he comes with large transfer demands in Covid times especially it could be tricky here. For varying reasons, I'd be very happy with any of Jokanovic, Cook or Hughton- in no particular order- but these are possibly my top 3 at present. As you say, quite a few experienced players- at odds with some elements of our policy. Of course there is flex and both wold have to adjust their expectations a bit. Yeah Brighton, been a while since I looked at them but had a quick look at their accounts and some areas that are of course exempt under FFP...think they pushed it to or near the limits Didn't break but as @Davefevs says higher up, no promotion=scale back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: Clubs will wait for a bit as a few PL managers will become available IMHO. Farke, DS - maybe Eddie Howe although that’s probably unlikely I hope we aren’t a club that’s waiting for a Prem failure to ignite our promotion prospects. I would prefer a coach who’s not had a gruelling season fighting relegation. I want a coach who has recharged his batteries and wants to add a new promotion to his C.V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I hope we aren’t a club that’s waiting for a Prem failure to ignite our promotion prospects. I would prefer a coach who’s not had a gruelling season fighting relegation. I want a coach who has recharged his batteries and wants to add a new promotion to his C.V. Moyes, Bruce ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Mendip City said: Exactly, I do wonder whether we play FFP a little too literally at times. It’s sport and if you want success, you have to gamble to some degree. Another way to work with if FFP is not to carry too big a squad bug make sure the wages you pay are on quality - I think that could be said of Brighton. Could argue this in the earlier days and with the benefit of hindsight which I am doing to an extent, but think it is likely to be enforced more rigourously moving forward- remember the EFL have the power, on paper, to impose penalties based in-season. Quote T-2=Real Accounts for 2 years before, so say 2017/18. T-1=Real Accounts for prior season- so that'd be last season. T=Projected Accounts for the current season. EFL are meant to analyse this there and then and refer to a Disciplinary Hearing where required! Are also meant to analyse for fudges and independently verify using evidence or comparables there and then, hence why clubs stick 'T' in at the start of March of the existing season, along with T-1 and T-2. This system has not been enforced correctly but post Covid, Harvey and Bury, unless we move onto a Salary cap instead, I expect it to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 I don't think Hughton would go to Birmingham, I was surprised he was even interested in us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, YGBjammy said: I don't think Hughton would go to Birmingham, I was surprised he was even interested in us. Four points off the drop after losing to Stoke today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Why did he leave Brum last time? Edit Just read on Wiki he left for Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, YGBjammy said: I don't think Hughton would go to Birmingham, I was surprised he was even interested in us. The way Crystal Palace are in freefall maybe Hughton is waiting for that job to become available leaving Roy looking for work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Are papers actually still going. How do they still manage to get away with the lies they produce after all these years amount of innocent lifes they ruin. Almost as dirty as bbc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, old_eastender said: Shame he didn't get rid of LJ sooner then, 2 years ago would have been good! The last two years have been wasted as you intimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Shaun Taylor said: He's currently 14/1 with sky bet so will be interesting to see if those odds shorten. Lee Bowyer is currently favourite with Robbie Fowler second which would be a massive gamble Robbie Fowler is 66-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: Robbie Fowler is 66-1 Not sure what I was looking at then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Ah sorry wasn’t skybet I was looking at. That’s crazy, surely we wouldn’t go for Fowler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: Ah sorry wasn’t skybet I was looking at. That’s crazy, surely we wouldn’t go for Fowler? Those are the odds for the Birmingham job. These are our skybet odds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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