The Gasbuster Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Cleared to play in next year’s Champions League. £10M fine imposed instead. No surprise then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Literally no downsides to breaking FFP, this ruling sets a dangerous president. Break the rules, have to pay 10M... What is the point? Every club will do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Pep said yesterday that he was ‘confident’ that the ban would be overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberRed Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 €10 million is absolute peanuts to the Man City owners. This is basically acknowledging that the rules were broken but they're not going to hand out any real punishment. Worst of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Either they are guilty and should be banned or not guilty and no fine. What a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinéadB Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Well it basically said that they didn't break FFP but lied/didn't co operate. "MANCHESTER CITY FC DID NOT DISGUISE EQUITY FUNDING AS SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTIONS BUT DID FAIL TO COOPERATE WITH THE UEFA AUTHORITIES" https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/CAS_Media_Release_6785_Decision.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 It’s a 10m fine reduced from 30m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Heaven forbid the authorities go against the football heavyweights. Guarantee if Atlanta did it, the punishment would be much more severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Uefa were probably worried they would win it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Sensational defending there from their lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Brown envelope time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Either they are guilty and should be banned or not guilty and no fine. What a mess Not really. They were guilty of "failing to cooperate", but innocent of the "serious breaches of FFP" that they had been accused of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yea ruling seems to indicate that there was little evidence of wrongdoing and even where there was it was outside of the times frame of 5 years in the UEFA regulation. Hardly surprising its been overturned really. UEFA were trying to make an example of them which I understand but you actually have to make sure they have broken the rules before you do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League Base fee for group stage: €15,250,000 Group match victory: €2,700,000 Group match draw: €900,000 Round of 16: €9,500,000 Quarter-finals: €10,500,000 Semi-finals: €12,000,000 Losing finalist: €15,000,000 Winning the Final: €19,000,000 So they will likely make around 5 times the fine in UCL prize money alone next season based on their usual performance (QF or better, 4W 1D 1L in group) - does not seem like much of a fine or deterrent in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, cityal said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League Base fee for group stage: €15,250,000 Group match victory: €2,700,000 Group match draw: €900,000 Round of 16: €9,500,000 Quarter-finals: €10,500,000 Semi-finals: €12,000,000 Losing finalist: €15,000,000 Winning the Final: €19,000,000 So they will likely make around 5 times the fine in UCL prize money alone next season based on their usual performance (QF or better, 4W 1D 1L in group) - does not seem like much of a fine or deterrent in any way On further examination it seems the allocation of prize money is far more complex - needless to say Man city will make more than the fine in competing in UCL next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, The Batman said: Heaven forbid the authorities go against the football heavyweights. Guarantee if Atlanta did it, the punishment would be much more severe. Uefa holds no authority over MLS teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Lrrr said: Uefa holds now authority over MLS teams Aaahhh, blast stupid predictive text. Atalanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, The Batman said: Aaahhh, blast stupid predictive text. Atalanta. Just had to edit out my own spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Got to wonder why UEFA tried bringing a case against Man City where the 5 year statutory limitation had passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: Uefa holds no authority over MLS teams I thought he meant the underwater city........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, UREDS_91 said: Literally no downsides to breaking FFP, this ruling sets a dangerous president. Break the rules, have to pay 10M... What is the point? Every club will do it now. I'm pretty sure Real Barca PSG Bayern Juve have flouted the rules for years ? I don't think it affects us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Shock, horror, mega rich club is told it was a naughty boy, told not to do it again and given a slap on the wrist by mummy UEFA. I've said it before and I'll say it again the Champions League is a totally corrupt farce that exists for the benefit of a dozen clubs instead of trying to footballing raise standards across Europe by equitable TV wealth. The majority of league champions are placed in barely televised qualifying rounds while the 'elite' champions of sod all are placed straight into the league stages where the real money is. I won't watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: I thought he meant the underwater city........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, UREDS_91 said: this ruling sets a dangerous president Donald Trump, he's a dangerous president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Surprise, surprise most people on here havent bothered to read the full ruling and have jumped straight to the headlines, making stupid opinionated remarks in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: Got to wonder why UEFA tried bringing a case against Man City where the 5 year statutory limitation had passed And here's the crux of the matter. They wanted to make an example out of Man City and in their attempt, they threw out their own rule book. A muppet lawyer could probably got the same result, let alone a club that can throw money at the best lawyers. This is what happens when regulatory organisations don't think about what they actually want to do and THEN put the right controls in place. Do they seriously think that they won't be challenged and scrutinised? They will sort it out one day but while they are faffing around, the Man City's of the world will find the cracks in the controls and take the piss. A case of keep it simple stupid, rather than creating something so complicated that it can't be enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, bcfcfinker said: And here's the crux of the matter. They wanted to make an example out of Man City and in their attempt, they threw out their own rule book. A muppet lawyer could probably got the same result, let alone a club that can throw money at the best lawyers. This is what happens when regulatory organisations don't think about what they actually want to do and THEN put the right controls in place. Do they seriously think that they won't be challenged and scrutinised? They will sort it out one day but while they are faffing around, the Man City's of the world will find the cracks in the controls and take the piss. A case of keep it simple stupid, rather than creating something so complicated that it can't be enforced. Man City hired the lawyer who delayed Brexit, this was probably a days work for him then putting his feet up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Donald Trump, he's a dangerous president precedent... oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Man City hired the lawyer who delayed Brexit, this was probably a days work for him then putting his feet up He probably gave it to his legal secretary and went Ker Ching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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