cidered abroad Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 If we continue with the quality of performance that we have seen in the second half of this season, what lies ahead for the new boss? A season long battle at which end of the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 The top if we get the appointment right as Leeds, WBA and Brentford are admirably demonstrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 The new manager should have been appointed by now to look at the squad in matches and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 First steps must be: Establish acceptable level of autonomy Cull list Establish primary game plan Have final say in new recruits (to whatever budget has been agreed) to ensure new game plan works Accept, correct and own any mistakes made, not blame others Be open to change if players / formation aren't working, but not just for the sake of it (Tombola) NO-ONE is undroppable. Good luck...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Transfer window opens 27th. Hope he is appointed by then. Starting to piss me off if I’m honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 A massive job on his hands, how we get rid of some of the dead wood on good contracts is very hard to do , the squads way to big with very little quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Certain doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 A mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Northern Red Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Transfer window opens 27th. Hope he is appointed by then. Starting to piss me off if I’m honest It's been 2 weeks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: It's been 2 weeks.... Painful ain’t it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, glen humphries said: A massive job on his hands, how we get rid of some of the dead wood on good contracts is very hard to do , the squads way to big with very little quality. It is certainly far too big, we could lose 8-10 players (including the masses who have been on loan in L1, L2 & even below that) & it make not the slightest bit of difference. Not sure it has “little quality”, more too many for whom there appears much of a muchness. His job is firstly to decide which ones he wants to keep & hope we can shift those that he does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, headhunter said: A mess I think its far from a mess, with a good appointment we can move forward.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, GrahamC said: It is certainly far too big, we could lose 8-10 players (including the masses who have been on loan in L1, L2 & even below that) & it make not the slightest bit of difference. Not sure it has “little quality”, more too many for whom there appears much of a muchness. His job is firstly to decide which ones he wants to keep & hope we can shift those that he does not. Can you name me 6 proper quality players we have, that would get in the top teams sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, JonDolman said: We need a manager that can simply see what gets the best out of players. I find it amazing that LJ didn't know, and maybe Holden knows but just doesn't feel he has the right mix to get the best out of our key players. Lets take Wells. He has so far shown to be far better playing on his own up front. Huddersfield and QPR showed this in a 4231. We can even see it now for us. He can control a ball and battle a bit, but blimey his whole game for us seems to be dropping off and getting the ball and giving it away. I'm sure he's better than what we see at that job as he just seems careless. But his game does not suit the way we are playing. It goes to show simply buying someone who scores goals at a previous club does not mean much when a team is not built for him to get chances. I'm not saying he can't play in a front 2. I actually think he probably can be effective with the right partner and midfield behind him. Dyche who is a pretty superb manager bought him for Burnley to play in a front 2 in the prem. Okay it didn't work out, but a very good manager in Dyche believed he could play in a front 2, as clearly that's how Burnley play. The reason I am talking about Wells here is that he is our main striker. People seem to think Diedhiou may be off. And Afobe is only here on loan. We have rarely seen Wells go one on one with the goalie. And I don't really see him touching the ball much in the box. If he doesn't suit a system that gets the best out of most of our key players then I say sell him. If our game works best having a big target man in a 4141 system for example with the likes of Walsh, Morrell, maybe Korey making up our midfield 3 with 2 wide men, then go get Kieffer Moore. Sell Wells. If one player doesn't suit the others then get rid. Lets have a style of play, a system. Lets bring in players that work in that system. Any that don't then move on. Have you got any plans to change your avatar it gives me the hebegeebies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: Yeah I will do soon! Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, glen humphries said: Can you name me 6 proper quality players we have, that would get in the top teams sides. What do you mean by a top team? Cardiff, who are in sixth? Bentley, Baker, Kalas, Dasilva, Paterson and Wells would all be in their side, I reckon & Fam possibly, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, GrahamC said: What do you mean by a top team? Cardiff, who are in sixth? Bentley, Baker, Kalas, Dasilva, Paterson and Wells would all be in their side, I reckon & Fam possibly, too. For me Bentley no makes to many mistakes, Paterson not a chance, kalas hasn’t been the player he was last season, injuries might be a factor, fam not sure, dasilva maybe, baker not a chance he’s made of popadoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: If we continue with the quality of performance that we have seen in the second half of this season, what lies ahead for the new boss? A season long battle at which end of the table? Well I may not be popular with this, but a new left back please. One that can defend, who can stop crosses coming in by actually attempting the odd tackle!, and one who doesn’t switch off completely like he did for Swansea’s winner today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, glen humphries said: For me Bentley no makes to many mistakes, Paterson not a chance, kalas hasn’t been the player he was last season, injuries might be a factor, fam not sure, dasilva maybe, baker not a chance he’s made of popadoms Amazing that we’re top half then really, with not a single player good enough to play for Cardiff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Amazing that we’re top half then really, with not a single player good enough to play for Cardiff.. I meant a top side , top 2 or 3 going for automatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, glen humphries said: I meant a top side , top 2 or 3 going for automatic Hughton would mould our current players to just that. Eliasson would have a field day under CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, M.D said: Hughton would mould our current players to just that. Eliasson would have a field day under CH Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, glen humphries said: Hopefully And its a big if with Hughton coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Shockwave said: The new manager should have been appointed by now to look at the squad in matches and training. How do you know that the new manager hasn't been watching our last couple of matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: If we continue with the quality of performance that we have seen in the second half of this season, what lies ahead for the new boss? A season long battle at which end of the table? He will have his work cut out. When it comes to the business end of the season Johnson has assembled a team of bottlers in his own image. The new man needs to rebuild a team with some fight and determination. And give them a set of tactics and pattern of play they understand and are not changed every week. And get some players in. So I guess it will take a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, M.D said: Hughton would mould our current players to just that. Eliasson would have a field day under CH I'm often a bit 'glass half empty' - but I'm inclined to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Whatever way you look at it, the City job is a fabulous job to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, glen humphries said: Can you name me 6 proper quality players we have, that would get in the top teams sides. Bit of an ask for any team, I mean even Leeds could benefit from other teams in multiple positions and they've won the league. I'd say Eliasson, Wells and Dasilva are all good enough to walk into other Championship teams but it's not about other teams, it's purely about having an a team that compliments each other. You could put those three players in a team and they'd work together well, the issue is trying to force the rest of the squad in. Personally I think our biggest weakness is in the middle of the pitch, I can't remember the last team to get promoted that didn't have a solid midfielder. Massengo had potential but is no where near the value we paid, Nagy isn't consistent enough, Smith is injured too much to gain consistency and our best central midfielder left us to go to the Prem after most of our fans said he was over rated. We need that top tier central midfielder, someone who can do the work that none of our midfielders seem able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, headhunter said: A mess A complete and utter mess to be precise. Midfield is a shambles, League 1 standard. Complete rebuild required. Fammy, Eliasson likely off so that leaves Wells as one forward who, seemingly, would far prefer to be at QPR. Defence needs at least one full back. Keepers iffy. Aside from that LJ left a bloated squad of very similarly lightweight average players who ain’t going to get promotion anytime soon. If we don’t appoint a manager who has experience, has seen it, done it and got promotion then we could be in big trouble. There’s many reasons why we are an attractive proposition to manage, the squad ain’t one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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