One Team Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 This would be just the sort of underwhelming appointment many of us have been fearing from SL and Ashton. If the point of sacking LJ was to obtain Premier League football then I don’t get this at all. If mediocrity was the plan then we may as well have given LJ more time rather than sack him and appoint Cowley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Lez said: Technically they could still be relegated on the last day hence why I stated it took them to the last day to survive. Making both you and the person you have quoted incorrect. How much would you like to bet on Huddersfield being relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Dolman_Stand said: How much would you like to bet on Huddersfield being relegated? That's not the point. It has taken them to the last game to survive. That is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Lez said: That's not the point. It has taken them to the last game to survive. That is fact. The fact is that they are safe regardless of technicalities from a position where relegation looked a near certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, reddoh said: is this a word or a z rate celeb I've never heard of? Yeah I think they struggled a bit, they had a long while to get free, appreciate though they inherited a club with a long losing culture...not for me, would prefer Mr Lowe if your going to 'gamble'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Dolman_Stand said: The fact is that they are safe regardless of technicalities from a position where relegation looked a near certainty. "A near certainty"- this is what you call expanding the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Can I just remind a few people to the comments when Steve Cotterill was appointed. Things like oh no long ball football and only really done it with Cheltenham were mentioned. Did Steve Cotterill play long ball or adapt? Who is to say Cowley can't adapt too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Busterrimes said: Can I just remind a few people to the comments when Steve Cotterill was appointed. Things like oh no long ball football and only really done it with Cheltenham were mentioned. Did Steve Cotterill play long ball or adapt? Who is to say Cowley can't adapt too? Cotterill was in league 1 with one of the biggest transfer and wage budgets in the division. We are now in the championship looking for promotion to the prem...... A poor and pointless comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Did the job and kept them up . I could see why City would want him and his bro , they wouldn’t be my choice . Bookies like em !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: So the parachute money was given to them for players ? Serious question - I have no idea if they had that sort of budget or if the owner decided to recoup his outlay. Honest answer? I don’t know. However they do have some decent players, Grant, Mounie, Bacuna.. The point I was making was that the 3 promoted sides (Luton, Barnsley & Charlton) all definitely operate at a lower level than them wage wise making simply finishing above them & Hull (who have imploded after selling Bowen & Grosicki) not that much of an achievement, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Lez said: Cotterill was in league 1 with one of the biggest transfer and wage budgets in the division. We are now in the championship looking for promotion to the prem...... A poor and pointless comparison. What utter tosh. Division and budget mean nothing. You are talking about style of play and adaptability. I used a very good analogy sorry it doesn't fit your hate campaign. Also no one knows who will be good or bad at City or any club. It is not an exact science. You only know once they get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: What utter tosh. Division and budget mean nothing. You are talking about style of play and adaptability. I used a very good analogy sorry it doesn't fit your hate campaign. Also no one knows who will be good or bad at City or any club. It is not an exact science. You only know once they get the job. Budget means nothing now that is a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Lez said: Budget means nothing now that is a first. Nope not even close to a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, JonDolman said: No never said that before Fair enough, so you’re selective rather than universal when ridiculing those with speech impediments ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: Budget means nothing now that is a first. Not when you are talking about a style of play no. Crewe have always played lovely passing football pleasing on the eye. How big is their budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Atticus said: Why on earth is it brothers????? Can one of them not manage by himself? His brother is just a hired actor so he gets a second wage sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Busterrimes said: Not when you are talking about a style of play no. Crewe have always played lovely passing football pleasing on the eye. How big is their budget. Not sure what Crewe has to do with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Lez said: Not sure what Crewe has to do with anything. We were talking about style and budgets. You insisted a big budget was required. I'm saying it isn't. Can I ask, are you dense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Busterrimes said: We were talking about style and budgets. You insisted a big budget was required. I'm saying it isn't. Can I ask, are you dense? No I just dont bother to read whatever you've typed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Lez said: No I just dont bother to read whatever you've typed. Great debating there. Well done. Welcome to my ignore list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Great debating there. Well done. Welcome to my ignore list With respect you arent one of the people worth debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: No I just dont bother to read whatever you've typed. Just now, Lez said: With respect you arent one of the people worth debating. yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lez said: No I just dont bother to read whatever you've typed. 5 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Great debating there. Well done. Welcome to my ignore list 3 minutes ago, Lez said: With respect you arent one of the people worth debating. Ignoring what he's said, but felt the need to reply. Why reply at all? Grow up people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: What utter tosh. Division and budget mean nothing. You are talking about style of play and adaptability. I used a very good analogy sorry it doesn't fit your hate campaign. Also no one knows who will be good or bad at City or any club. It is not an exact science. You only know once they get the job. That’s patently not true. Managers reach a level and cannot break that ceiling. It’s happened time and again, and quite clearly happened with Cotts. Division and budget are hugely important on style of football and directly impact on success rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Lez said: He took over in September :laugh:. Yeh - after they had made an horrendous start to the season ... zero wins in their first 10 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth red Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Hi Phil Hodgkinson? Yeah, I've found your next gaffer! He’s the finest footballing mind on otib. You’re onto a winner here Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lez said: No I just dont bother to read whatever you've typed. That’s Effin obvious. 5 minutes ago, Lez said: With respect you arent one of the people worth debating. You don’t know how to debate. Go and look at budget in the Championship and then tell us with your amazing wisdom how the division correlates to budget? Then you‘all have worked out you’ve talking a load of shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Notbarrymanc said: That’s patently not true. Managers reach a level and cannot break that ceiling. It’s happened time and again, and quite clearly happened with Cotts. Division and budget are hugely important on style of football and directly impact on success rate. That is a good point about managerial ceiling. The main point I am trying to make is we don't really know what that ceiling is yet for the Cowleys. My Crewe analogy does stand little as they made it to this level with an 8000 seat ground np budget but played fantastic football. I get people are frustrated but we don't know how good a manager will be until they start the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Can I just remind a few people to the comments when Steve Cotterill was appointed. Things like oh no long ball football and only really done it with Cheltenham were mentioned. Did Steve Cotterill play long ball or adapt? Who is to say Cowley can't adapt too? From the little I saw of Lincoln from the outside I heard they had changed to become more progressive in recent times before the Cowleys moved on. Certainly Joe Morrell doesn’t seem the obvious addition to a midfield that wants to play an attritional game or win every second ball, unless Brian Tinnion told them he was 6’5” to get the deal done. I can definitely see why people wouldn’t but I’d rather have the Cowleys than Gerrard. SG has spent a lot of money north of the border, quite regularly blows his lid with his players in the media and pretty much gave up the title race after the New Year. Domestically he’s got a lot to prove, and if he wasn’t called Steven Gerrard I don’t think people would be half as keen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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