The Bard Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 12 hours ago, GrahamC said: This is The Championship though, he won 13 out of 40 in it, which is bottom half form. Michael O’Neill took over Stoke who were bottom, been in a mess for 2 years & he’s won 13 out of 31... Fair comparison but you have to say Huddersfield have a worse group of players. How on earth Stoke have spent so long flirting with relegation is beyond me. There's proven prem players there. Should have been doing what West Brom have been doing last 2 seasons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: ‘ someone like Hughton’ I might just be he's waiting for a Premiership club maybe Watford or Crystal Palace over the coming months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, The Bard said: Fair comparison but you have to say Huddersfield have a worse group of players. How on earth Stoke have spent so long flirting with relegation is beyond me. There's proven prem players there. Should have been doing what West Brom have been doing last 2 seasons.. Haven’t though, have they? Gary Rowett couldn’t turn them around, (& he’s done pretty well elsewhere) Nathan Jones couldn’t turn them around, (yet he’s gone back to Luton & has done incredibly well) but Michael O’Neill actually did. He’s a very underrated manager, the work he did with Norn Iron was off the scale, Stoke are still in huge difficulty financially, as parachute payments have finished & their wage bill is frightening, but they could be dark horses next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shaun Taylor said: I might just be he's waiting for a Premiership club maybe Watford or Crystal Palace over the coming months Watford have had 4 different people in charge this season and it’s still not over. Yes there is no security in football management but that position is not very appealing to a manager at the moment IMO. Yes the City job isn’t massive in size terms but SL will give the new person time and that is appealing to some . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Watford have had 4 different people in charge this season and it’s still not over. Yes there is no security in football management but that position is not very appealing to a manager at the moment IMO. Yes the City job isn’t massive in size terms but SL will give the new person time and that is appealing to some . I agree Watford is arguably the most unstable club in the top two divisions regarding managers and I would be surprised if Hughton would want to work for their owners. City is all based on potential and if the new manager gets it right you could become the next Brighton, Southampton, Leicester, Wolves etc. Ive know idea what's holding you guys back as its all in place for success, wealthy chairman, great stadium & training facilitie, big fanbase and a nice part of the country to live in. Some posters have said location is the problem as managers won't travel daily from the Home Counties like Hoddle & Di Casio did at Swindon but if the package is good surely that wouldn't matter as they could move to the area or even fly regularly if it was someone like Gerrard. Maybe it's a case your chairman is stubborn and won't give them what they want but to achieve things he will probably have to spend big and reap the rewards later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 hours ago, And Its Smith said: @Lez has been on here a while. Don’t think she is in a great place. Over 60 posts in a day (getting more and more unhinged) and being on here literally every hour of the day until past 1am isn’t exactly healthy. He and I'm fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Haven’t though, have they? Gary Rowett couldn’t turn them around, (& he’s done pretty well elsewhere) Nathan Jones couldn’t turn them around, (yet he’s gone back to Luton & has done incredibly well) but Michael O’Neill actually did. He’s a very underrated manager, the work he did with Norn Iron was off the scale, Stoke are still in huge difficulty financially, as parachute payments have finished & their wage bill is frightening, but they could be dark horses next season. Yes, said the same on Forever Bristol podcast. He’s got Stoke playing much better and results wise they’d have been challenging playoffs had he had the whole season. As you say his job at national level was excellent. The pool of players is very small. How they recruit this summer will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidoldfart Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: ‘ someone like Hughton’ Think he is playing a waiting game, more interested To see if Fulham comes up. Sure he is not interested in Watford following his comments on sky - pointing out their hire and fire policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben91tucker Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Cowley odds gone up to 2/1 and lowe has come down to 3/1 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Haven’t though, have they? Gary Rowett couldn’t turn them around, (& he’s done pretty well elsewhere) Nathan Jones couldn’t turn them around, (yet he’s gone back to Luton & has done incredibly well) but Michael O’Neill actually did. He’s a very underrated manager, the work he did with Norn Iron was off the scale, Stoke are still in huge difficulty financially, as parachute payments have finished & their wage bill is frightening, but they could be dark horses next season. I agree O Neill is an excellent manager. Pity he isn't an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Haven’t though, have they? Gary Rowett couldn’t turn them around, (& he’s done pretty well elsewhere) Nathan Jones couldn’t turn them around, (yet he’s gone back to Luton & has done incredibly well) but Michael O’Neill actually did. He’s a very underrated manager, the work he did with Norn Iron was off the scale, Stoke are still in huge difficulty financially, as parachute payments have finished & their wage bill is frightening, but they could be dark horses next season. Did a massive job on Brentford at the weekend, when nobody up until then had looked close to breaking their run of wins. I think Stoke will have the same problem as we have. Trying to get rid of players on big money to other cash strapped sides. If MON is successful at bringing the wage bill down; and getting a set team together, I can see them being playoff contenders next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lez said: He and I'm fine. Very gender fluid in the last twenty four hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: Very gender fluid in the last twenty four hours! Almost as if they're making it up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: Almost as if they're making it up as they go along. A bit like @Up The City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Leveller said: Very gender fluid in the last twenty four hours! I'm Sheila on weekends sorry should have made it clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, The Bard said: Exactly the same point of view I heard when we appointed Cotterill. They have an almost unblemished record with multiple promotions. They know the division now and did a decent job sorting Huddersfield out who were an absolute car crash when they joined. I'd prefer others but would have these over an awful lot of the others mentioned. Some fair points there to be honest and if they are appointed I would love to be proved wrong. Like I prefer a number of others and like you there are others I want a lot less than Cowley. It doesn’t to me make sense to sack LJ, proclaim the Premier League being the target and appoint someone with no experience of having gained promotion from this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, One Team said: Some fair points there to be honest and if they are appointed I would love to be proved wrong. Like I prefer a number of others and like you there are others I want a lot less than Cowley. It doesn’t to me make sense to sack LJ, proclaim the Premier League being the target and appoint someone with no experience of having gained promotion from this division. Although it doesn’t mean PL isn’t still the target if Cowley is appointed. To be fair to Cowley, he has more achievements on his managerial CV than LJ. It would just mean that based on performance at interview, willingness to work with our budget and structure and desire to improve our youngsters, Lansdown concluded that Cowley was the best option available to reach that target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, One Team said: Some fair points there to be honest and if they are appointed I would love to be proved wrong. Like I prefer a number of others and like you there are others I want a lot less than Cowley. It doesn’t to me make sense to sack LJ, proclaim the Premier League being the target and appoint someone with no experience of having gained promotion from this division. But experience of actual promotion which LJ hasn't got in about 7 seasons of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, eardun said: Although it doesn’t mean PL isn’t still the target if Cowley is appointed. To be fair to Cowley, he has more achievements on his managerial CV than LJ. It would just mean that based on performance at interview, willingness to work with our budget and structure and desire to improve our youngsters, Lansdown concluded that Cowley was the best option available to reach that target. I got a side promoted from Bristol and suburban div 4.....so technically I have more achievements than LJ too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: I got a side promoted from Bristol and suburban div 4..... That must have been a long night on Championship Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, The Bard said: I agree O Neill is an excellent manager. Pity he isn't an option I don't know why he wouldn't be an option - I think we'd be able to afford him in terms of compensation and at the moment are a better prospect than Stoke. If we're doing our due diligence, we should be considering people like him. He fits the same sort of profile as Paul Cook - very competent and potentially a shrewd appointment. However some fans wouldn't like it as they aren't as familiar with him as a Hughton/Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: I got a side promoted from Bristol and suburban div 4.....so technically I have more achievements than LJ too. The Post reported over the weekend that new applications are still coming in if you fancy a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Apart from the bookies odds who actually said Cowley will be the new BCFC manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, mozo said: The Post reported over the weekend that new applications are still coming in if you fancy a go? No I fancy huddersfield instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I don't know why he wouldn't be an option - I think we'd be able to afford him in terms of compensation and at the moment are a better prospect than Stoke. If we're doing our due diligence, we should be considering people like him. He fits the same sort of profile as Paul Cook - very competent and potentially a shrewd appointment. However some fans wouldn't like it as they aren't as familiar with him as a Hughton/Gerrard. I wouldn't want someone whose willing to walk out on a new job after 8 months because a better option came up 7 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: That must have been a long night on Championship Manager Championship manager? Completed it mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lez said: I got a side promoted from Bristol and suburban div 4.....so technically I have more achievements than LJ too. There is no way you are over the age of 25 so highly doubt you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 by all accounts was on Talksport just now that they were sacked because they applied for the job here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: No I fancy huddersfield instead. Okay but you have to have Davefevs as your director of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I don't know why he wouldn't be an option - I think we'd be able to afford him in terms of compensation and at the moment are a better prospect than Stoke. If we're doing our due diligence, we should be considering people like him. He fits the same sort of profile as Paul Cook - very competent and potentially a shrewd appointment. However some fans wouldn't like it as they aren't as familiar with him as a Hughton/Gerrard. I simply don’t think he would jump ship. Stoke are a similar size club to us, more successful in recent times though. He has had 30 odd games to suss out his squad & to plan for next season & I would be amazed if he wanted to start that all over again when he thinks he is beginning to make real progress. From his point of view I also cannot think of anything that would make his think our job is any more attractive to him than his current one. Definitely someone I rate highly, but our vacancy hasn’t come up at the right time for him to be interested, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 12 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Fair enough, so you’re selective rather than universal when ridiculing those with speech impediments ... @JonDolman apologies for being a grumpy old git last night Jon - your posts just struck a nerve, but I reckon I overreacted. Have a good day ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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