Whites Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 I've been told that there have been Four interviews, two of which were at Ashton Gate, these were Chris Hughton and Nigel Adkins, who we are keen on apparently. I'm not sure who the other two were, but these were outside of Ashton Gate. Make of that what you will..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 If true I would be happy with Hughton or Adkins. Two good options for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatchersgold Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Adkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whites said: I've been told that there have been Four interviews, two of which were at Ashton Gate, these were Chris Hughton and Nigel Adkins, who we are keen on apparently. I'm not sure who the other two were, but these were outside of Ashton Gate. Make of that what you will..... Four interviews today? If so is there four more to go is has the shortlist been narrowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Mark Robins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Whites said: I've been told........ ......by whom??? Steve Lansdown? Mark Ashton? The tea lady? Your mate? or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 If its down to Hughton and Adkins I wouldn't be disappointed. Hughton is a proven winner and Adkins took Southampton from league one to the prem and put down the framework for Southampton using their academy (admittedly only because they were in administration). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, thatchersgold said: Adkins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Surely not Adkins. 4 years at Scunthorpe and then 4 clubs in 9 years. Something is not right. What an uninspiring choice that would be. After the chance of Hughton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: If its down to Hughton and Adkins I wouldn't be disappointed. Hughton is a proven winner and Adkins took Southampton from league one to the prem and put down the framework for Southampton using their academy (admittedly only because they were in administration). Agreed, also getting Hull to finish in mid table last season when they were a basket case club looks impressive when you see how this one panned out. He also knows The Championship pretty well & is used to managing on a small budget, which is a valuable skill in a Covid impacted season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: Surely not Adkins. 4 years at Scunthorpe and then 4 clubs in 9 years. Something is not right. What an uninspiring choice that would be. After the chance of Hughton. Southampton - Sacked to bring in Pochettino Reading - Brought in but couldn't stop relegation from the premier league, next season finished 7th 1 point outside play offs, sacked December next season for being 10 points off the pace for play offs, can't remember what Reading were like as a club at that time Sheffield Utd - Sacked after 1 season for finishing 11th, poor performance but should he have been given longer than 1 season to implement how he wanted to operate? Hull - PPG average over a seasons worth of game there was 59 points, respectable given their owners being ***** and helped players like Bowen develop. Left of his own choice not agreeing a new deal. For me the only one that really sticks out is Sheffield Utd, don't know enough about the Reading situation did they have to sell players to adjust to prem and losing parachute payments in 18 months if they didn't go back up etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: Surely not Adkins. 4 years at Scunthorpe and then 4 clubs in 9 years. Something is not right. What an uninspiring choice that would be. After the chance of Hughton. adkins is a fantastic manager at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: Surely not Adkins. 4 years at Scunthorpe and then 4 clubs in 9 years. Something is not right. What an uninspiring choice that would be. After the chance of Hughton. Agreed, Adkins would be so depressing. I’d rather have Ryan a Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 It makes interesting reading but if he has done well at a number of these clubs and is still regularly sacked you have to have doubts about him as a long term solution. 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: adkins is a fantastic manager at this level Why does he keep getting sacked then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Why does he keep getting sacked then. Seemingly 2 performance based sackings in the last 9 years/4 clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Monkeh said: adkins is a fantastic manager at this level Is he? Kept Scunthorpe up once out of 2 attempts with them, which is probably a good achievement. Did well with Southampton, was unfairly treated there but in hindsight worked out with Poch Came close with Reading to playoffs in first season, then well off and sacked. Led Sheff Utd to their lowest finish in League 1 in 30 years, sacked. Relegation battle and mid table finish with Hull. I'd say the Southampton success is the outlier there rather than the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: It makes interesting reading but if he has done well at a number of these clubs and is still regularly sacked you have to have doubts about him as a long term solution. Why does he keep getting sacked then. Nearly every manager gets sacked. With Adkins a lot of his sackings were due to crazy owners who provided little money and had unrealistic expectations. I think with the sort of long term backing he’d get from SL he would be an ideal candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Whites said: I've been told that there have been Four interviews, two of which were at Ashton Gate, these were Chris Hughton and Nigel Adkins, who we are keen on apparently. I'm not sure who the other two were, but these were outside of Ashton Gate. Make of that what you will..... I could imagine Robbie Fowler being a candidate as a sort of second rate Gerrard option. He gave a deliberate interview that was shared on OTIB a while ago in which he talks about being influenced by and connected with Klopp. He talked boasted that he's a man-manager type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Nearly every manager gets sacked. With Adkins a lot of his sackings were due to crazy owners who provided little money and had unrealistic expectations. I think with the sort of long term backing he’d get from SL he would be an ideal candidate. I wouldn`t be disappointed with Adkins TBH. I don`t think he`s really `failed` anywhere and was harshly treated by Saints although I can see why they did what they did to an extent. I`ve got friends who are ST holders down there and they enjoyed the football they played at the time. I also think it shows a bit of nous to get out of the sinking ship that is Hull before the shit really hit the fan - he could evidently see what was coming and bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Whites said: I've been told that there have been Four interviews, two of which were at Ashton Gate, these were Chris Hughton and Nigel Adkins, who we are keen on apparently. I'm not sure who the other two were, but these were outside of Ashton Gate. Make of that what you will..... Who told you and how do they know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shaun Taylor said: Who told you and how do they know! The football fairies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 hours ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: If its down to Hughton and Adkins I wouldn't be disappointed. Hughton is a proven winner and Adkins took Southampton from league one to the prem and put down the framework for Southampton using their academy (admittedly only because they were in administration). Adkins (or I’m sure his name will be Atkins should he get it) is a massively underrated manager imho. 5 hours ago, Lrrr said: Southampton - Sacked to bring in Pochettino Reading - Brought in but couldn't stop relegation from the premier league, next season finished 7th 1 point outside play offs, sacked December next season for being 10 points off the pace for play offs, can't remember what Reading were like as a club at that time Sheffield Utd - Sacked after 1 season for finishing 11th, poor performance but should he have been given longer than 1 season to implement how he wanted to operate? Hull - PPG average over a seasons worth of game there was 59 points, respectable given their owners being ***** and helped players like Bowen develop. Left of his own choice not agreeing a new deal. For me the only one that really sticks out is Sheffield Utd, don't know enough about the Reading situation did they have to sell players to adjust to prem and losing parachute payments in 18 months if they didn't go back up etc. thanks. I really could see him and SL getting on well. A really good fit if Hughton can’t be tempted. Dark horse in the race, but one that shouldn’t be....and I’m guilty of forgetting him too. Off to read up some more on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Adkins (or I’m sure his name will be Atkins should he get it) is a massively underrated manager imho. thanks. I really could see him and SL getting on well. A really good fit if Hughton can’t be tempted. Dark horse in the race, but one that shouldn’t be....and I’m guilty of forgetting him too. Off to read up some more on him. I'd be disappointed and underwhelmed by Adkins but can't really put my finger on why. But I remember that I - like many other posters on here at the time - was disappointed and underwhelmed when Cotts go the job so maybe it is a terrible idea to go on instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 I’m not fussy. I’m just delighted we’re looking for a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Whites said: I've been told that there have been Four interviews, two of which were at Ashton Gate, these were Chris Hughton and Nigel Adkins, who we are keen on apparently. I'm not sure who the other two were, but these were outside of Ashton Gate. Make of that what you will..... Where did you get Adkins from? Not been mentioned at all for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not fussy. I’m just delighted we’re looking for a new manager. Really? You've not mentioned it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said: Where did you get Adkins from? Not been mentioned at all for the job Well if we did interview 8 then I don’t recall 8 people being mentioned in the press linked to the job so some would undoubtably have not been mentioned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Adkins would be a bit of an uninspiring appointment for me. Did a tremendous job at Scunthorpe, a good job at Southampton but relatively disappointing since - though perhaps not always in the best of circumstances. I always felt he’d peaked at Southampton and expected him to drop back down the leagues. Always seemed to be punching above his weight IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Adkins achieved a win percentage above 50% at Southampton, where they had back-to-back promotions, and above 40% at Scunthorpe (promoted from League 1) and Sheffield United. It was 36% at Reading and even 33% at Hull, which is roughly the same as LJ in his 3 managerial posts, having never achieved 40% at any club. Hughton achieved over 50% win record at Newcastle plus winning the Championship and over 40% at both Birmingham and Brighton, also winning promotion for them. The only blemish for him was at Norwich (29%), although in his only full season in the Premier League with them, he did achieve an 11th place finish. Jokanovic had a 58% win percentage in one season with Watford, when he got them promoted, while at Fulham over 3 and a bit seasons it was 44%, and a promotion. All three have achieved promotion from the Championship and had more successful spells as managers at clubs than LJ ever achieved, so realistically all of them should be considered an upgrade. However none could guarantee promotion to the Premier League... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 There are no guarantees in football you're quite right. Look at Coppell for a start! 3 promotions, manager of the season for taking Reading up as runaway Champions then into the top half. One of his more recent spells at Crystal Palace- late 1990s- when they were deep in admin, he kept up and restored to some respectability- only for Simon Jordan to sack him I think. Yet he left us after a less than full and enthusiastic buildup into pre season then two games! All are an upgrade though. Guarantee? Is there such a thing. I know he hasn't the promotions and isn't sought after like those you list but I'd still be interested in seeing what Paul Cook could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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