Son of Fred Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Honestly... If it's Holden & Williams that's a disgrace.. shameful. May as well have stayed with........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Probably out of date on this as it happened over an hour ago. But does anyone know who he is referring to? And please tell me SoD ain’t coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Flagon said: Holden would represent a continuity of sorts but I'm not so sure it would be the right continuity. I'm not sure at this moment he would be able to objectively look at the squad and be bold enough to say certain players just aren't going to make it so they need to go. My worry is whether he would end up persevering with players like LJ did alot. The very last thing we want is continuity. It was a very comfortable ‘club’ that was created with half-arsed performances, lack of leadership, mental strength et al. That all contributed to the rollover coaster performances that LJ and his merry men had ownership off. Goalkeepers, defence, midfield, forwards looked and played like a bunch of strangers thrown together. Rip it up and start afresh. The delays in appointing a manager are typical City of recent times. We look like we’re making it up as we go along. I’ve gone through the hope of having someone decent lined up, past the ‘appoint any bugger’ phase to now, as it’s been so long...we must be appointing to Pep/ Klopp type candidate and will be disappointed if we don’t. If we end up with some ‘yes’ man, working with the same old faces, with the same Strategy then that will test my patience to breaking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, RedRock said: The very last thing we want is continuity. It was a very comfortable ‘club’ that was created with half-arsed performances, lack of leadership, mental strength et al. That all contributed to the rollover coaster performances that LJ and his merry men had ownership off. Goalkeepers, defence, midfield, forwards looked and played like a bunch of strangers thrown together. Rip it up and start afresh. Yep exactly that. The ideal thing about a new manager is that he can form his own opinions on all players, those who were out of favour previously are given a clean slate, and those who played regardless of what form they seemed to be in may no longer be looked upon in such high regard. I really hope that if a new manager comes in, an entire team of new backroom staff come in also. May be harsh on the likes of Cisse, McAllister, Mountain etc, but to give the new manager the best chance of success, they must be allowed to bring their own team in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChippenhamRed Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 The line that struck me from Gregor’s Q&A regarding Holden was “the players like him”. Therein lies the problem; it’s all too cosy. Those players have underachieved this season. That squad needs fresh impetus to shake things up, not their old mate. It’s farcical now. Into week 5 and still nothing imminent. I don’t see how we can conclude this is anything other than an abject failure of our recruitment process because every day that goes by now compromises our preparations for next season. It simply should not take this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The line that struck me from Gregor’s Q&A regarding Holden was “the players like him”. Therein lies the problem; it’s all too cosy. Those players have underachieved this season. That squad needs fresh impetus to shake things up, not their old mate. It’s farcical now. Into week 5 and still nothing imminent. I don’t see how we can conclude this is anything other than an abject failure of our recruitment process because every day that goes by now compromises our preparations for next season. It simply should not take this long. That gets a big @Shtanley "Well said" from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The line that struck me from Gregor’s Q&A regarding Holden was “the players like him”. Therein lies the problem; it’s all too cosy. Those players have underachieved this season. That squad needs fresh impetus to shake things up, not their old mate. It’s farcical now. Into week 5 and still nothing imminent. I don’t see how we can conclude this is anything other than an abject failure of our recruitment process because every day that goes by now compromises our preparations for next season. It simply should not take this long. So are you saying that we underachieved this season because the players liked Lee Johnson too much? That's not what I've heard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 This made me chuckle on the weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I felt like under LJ it almost became like it was ok to lose. We take that punch on the nose etc etc. There were only a couple of times he looked a bit shellshocked at some of the performances and it became how much of a threat other teams are in this division all the time. etc etc. A fresh start is needed and someone who is not ok with losing and makes sure that is instilled in the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Carey 6 said: Yep exactly that. The ideal thing about a new manager is that he can form his own opinions on all players, those who were out of favour previously are given a clean slate, and those who played regardless of what form they seemed to be in may no longer be looked upon in such high regard. I really hope that if a new manager comes in, an entire team of new backroom staff come in also. May be harsh on the likes of Cisse, McAllister, Mountain etc, but to give the new manager the best chance of success, they must be allowed to bring their own team in. ...and it costs money to get rid of staff....and potentially more money to lever them out of other clubs. It might not be much in the grand scheme of things, but it is a consideration. I don’t disagree with any of the points you and plenty of others...they are all valid. All I’m really saying is if Holden does get it, these might be the reasons why. Mark Ashton’s cock is on the block with this appointment. SL may make the decision, but MA will have done all the groundwork and give the recommendation! SL will not be happy if come November, whoever we appoint, we are struggling at the wrong end of the table. Who knows whether in some respects the waiting game allows him to say “sorry, Steve, we almost got Chris, but Bournemouth got him”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: Well they were bottom of the league when he took over. 1 win in 17 games. One of the youngest squads in the League IIRC. Reminds me a little of your views on Wigan- overly physical, not very good football- think it's a bit more nuanced, but nonetheless Struber has done a fantastic job there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: So are you saying that we underachieved this season because the players liked Lee Johnson too much? That's not what I've heard... Actually that’s not what I said. I said players liking a coach is not a good reason to appoint him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJS Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 It’s looking more and more like it’s going to be Holden by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Does anybody else worry that the longer this recruitment farce continues it looks like it will be Holden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJS Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Does anybody else worry that the longer this recruitment farce continues it looks like it will be Holden. Yes. Or they have have made their choice but struggling to agree financial terms with him. It’s definitely worrying that it’s taking so long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 I’ve said elsewhere that based on Tinnion’s and Lansdown’s tweets on the weekend, something major has to be on the cards or the fan base is going to be mightily cheesed off... It’s all starting to make sense! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12041307/mauricio-pochettino-ex-tottenham-boss-open-to-next-job-being-in-any-of-europes-top-five-leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 26/07/2020 at 15:16, Hampshire reds said: the only thing i can think of is we have had some big names apply. Sotiris Papagiannopoulos ? Biggest name I could find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creg Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Mate of mine said he's just walked past Sol Campbell in the centre. Hoping he's just taking the piss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 6 hours ago, deadredfred said: I’ve said elsewhere that based on Tinnion’s and Lansdown’s tweets on the weekend, something major has to be on the cards or the fan base is going to be mightily cheesed off... It’s all starting to make sense! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12041307/mauricio-pochettino-ex-tottenham-boss-open-to-next-job-being-in-any-of-europes-top-five-leagues PL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga,Ligue 1! Think a couple of those are or can be interchangeable but there are the big 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 With one of Fulham and Brentford on the cusp of getting in excess of well over £100 million I worry our "due diligence” hasn't really stretched much further than "exactly how much are you expecting to get paid to get us a slice of that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: PL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga,Ligue 1! Think a couple of those are or can be interchangeable but there are the big 5. It was tongue in cheek. But Ligue 1 is poor for a first division. I reckon the championship compares. #announcepoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, deadredfred said: It was tongue in cheek. But Ligue 1 is poor for a first division. I reckon the championship compares. #announcepoch Yeah don't think there's a lot of difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Did I miss his name before ? Only just noticed that he is in the betting. Googled and seems he is one of Germanys well regarded coaches. Probably just an outlier.. (a bit of light relief from the mass suicide taking place elsewhere on the forum anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's Holden mate, so just.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 He applied for a laugh. He's a Messer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkey Dollocks Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: He applied for a laugh. He's a Messer. Former defender for FC Nürnberg. Was good in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 We really are up Schmidt creek without a paddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: He applied for a laugh. He's a Messer. Quick but not as fast as JET. 25/1 with skybet....you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 The FC Heidenheim manager? Bit left field, hes been there for donkeys if iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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