Bristol Oil Services Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Do tell us, I am sure everyone would like to know the real story! I don't believe it (whatever it is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Could be a lot in that. How much does MA know? You have to know a lot about football to recognise someone who knows even more than you do. True. But look at the top managers in the Prem and the championship for that matter. I love the idea that people on here seem to think they know more about football and the workings of a modern day football club than Mark Ashton. So let's look at his CV: Youth team footballer at WBA making his debut at 18 but injuries and a realization he wasn't going to be good enough (his words) saw him walk away from playing. Goalkeeping coach at WBA Switch to club management saw him work in numerous club departments at WBA Left to become CEO at Watford where he stayed for 5 years As part of an investment group bought into Oxford United where he became CEO CEO at Bristol City As a CEO of a football club you need a lot more than a knowledge of football. You need significant organisation and business skills. Are there better CEOs out there than Mark Ashton - Yes. Are there worse CEOs out there than Mark Ashton - Bloody hell Yes. Marh Ashton is still a positive for City for me. With regard to the playing side some of the deals he's managed to achieve have been astounding, particularly for a club that doesn't have parachute payment monies to work with. Has he made mistakes? Of course he has, there isn't a CEO on the planet who hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I love the idea that people on here seem to think they know more about football and the workings of a modern day football club than Mark Ashton. So let's look at his CV: Youth team footballer at WBA making his debut at 18 but injuries and a realization he wasn't going to be good enough (his words) saw him walk away from playing. Goalkeeping coach at WBA Switch to club management saw him work in numerous club departments at WBA Left to become CEO at Watford where he stayed for 5 years As part of an investment group bought into Oxford United where he became CEO CEO at Bristol City As a CEO of a football club you need a lot more than a knowledge of football. You need significant organisation and business skills. Are there better CEOs out there than Mark Ashton - Yes. Are there worse CEOs out there than Mark Ashton - Bloody hell Yes. Marh Ashton is still a positive for City for me. With regard to the playing side some of the deals he's managed to achieve have been astounding, particularly for a club that doesn't have parachute payment monies to work with. Has he made mistakes? Of course he has, there isn't a CEO on the planet who hasn't. So you are saying mark ashton is a football man not a suit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Victor Meldrew said: You are far wide of the mark re Ashton Vale Village Green you don’t know what you are talking about I don’t believe it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, Monkeh said: So you are saying mark ashton is a football man not a suit..... I'm saying he's both. He has real passion for football evidenced by the fact that he has remained in football by learning new business skills which could easily be transferred elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm saying he's both. He has real passion for football evidenced by the fact that he has remained in football by learning new business skills which could easily be transferred elsewhere. So the kind if person people want him replaced by because he isnt a football man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Chappers said: Your ridiculous posts continue. We have an excellent owner, invested a lot in the Club and sport in Bristol, and some self-entitled idiot is moaning, because we have not made the top league, something we have managed for just 4 of the previous 100 years. You just said it mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chappers said: Your ridiculous posts continue. We have an excellent owner, invested a lot in the Club and sport in Bristol, and some self-entitled idiot is moaning, because we have not made the top league, something we have managed for just 4 of the previous 100 years. You just said it all there mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Mods - please can we merge with all the others? SK - seriously, just add your thoughts into an existing thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, Chappers said: Your ridiculous posts continue. We have an excellent owner, invested a lot in the Club and sport in Bristol, and some self-entitled idiot is moaning, because we have not made the top league, something we have managed for just 4 of the previous 100 years. Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: I'm annoyed that we aren't where we should be with all that we have going for us. Huge potential and catchment area of a million fans ready to follow Premiership football. A famous city with, as we have been reminded recently, wealth built on a dodgy history but still a marvellous place to live. BUT, I would argue, with a limited sense of public good. Private wealth and influence over public good. This was shown in the Ashton Vale Village Green fiasco. 23 selfish and probably influential people with a compliant Inspector convincing our council that what we all knew was a putrifying rubbish tip was in fact a leafy nature haven where cows had safely grazed for centuries. Our pathetic Council fell in with this and Steve must have been well pissed off. In a northern city those objectors would have been given short shrift. That man was attempting to build a World Cup venue, bringing sporting prestige to Bristol. So yes a great city but limited. A top ten city without Premiership football. Our Club the greatest underachievers in the Football League. Steve has developed the stadium to near Premiership standard (stupendous in comparison eg. to Bournemouth) so we don't need to cowtow to the pathetic Council. It's in our hands. But the pivotal factor is Steve Lansdown. I don't hate him but I would like him to set himself free. Put your energy into advertising/promoting the Club nationally and internationally, attract a top (foreign) coach and leave the football to the football people It was not the councils fault they actually gave the go ahead for ashton vale it was the village green lot that scuppered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: I respect your opinion but I think this post is ridiculous. I’d much rather have a stable owner than some of the mad men out there. SL built us the stadium and has our club well run with no danger of us going into administartion. We are closing in on the premier league. Be careful what you wish for. I would agree with you as we have a chairman who nobody trusts but we're stuck with him unless you want to swap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Monkeh said: So the kind if person people want him replaced by because he isnt a football man You need to proof read this. I'm not sure what it means. Basically I'm saying it's OK for posters to criticise MA if they think we could do better, after all it's a valid opinion, but for me the accusation that he's not a football man doesn't stick. He's spent his entire career in football in some capacity. He's more of a football man than SL, who's very much a businessman, but few would question hs passion for City. You can be a football man and where a suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, pillred said: It was not the councils fault they actually gave the go ahead for ashton vale it was the village green lot that scuppered it. The Council sided with the view of the Inspector who represented the 'Village Green" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: I'm annoyed that we aren't where we should be with all that we have going for us. Huge potential and catchment area of a million fans ready to follow Premiership football. A famous city with, as we have been reminded recently, wealth built on a dodgy history but still a marvellous place to live. BUT, I would argue, with a limited sense of public good. Private wealth and influence over public good. This was shown in the Ashton Vale Village Green fiasco. 23 selfish and probably influential people with a compliant Inspector convincing our council that what we all knew was a putrifying rubbish tip was in fact a leafy nature haven where cows had safely grazed for centuries. Our pathetic Council fell in with this and Steve must have been well pissed off. In a northern city those objectors would have been given short shrift. That man was attempting to build a World Cup venue, bringing sporting prestige to Bristol. So yes a great city but limited. A top ten city without Premiership football. Our Club the greatest underachievers in the Football League. Steve has developed the stadium to near Premiership standard (stupendous in comparison eg. to Bournemouth) so we don't need to cowtow to the pathetic Council. It's in our hands. But the pivotal factor is Steve Lansdown. I don't hate him but I would like him to set himself free. Put your energy into advertising/promoting the Club nationally and internationally, attract a top (foreign) coach and leave the football to the football people Rambling?..... Still running around the front room headless chicken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: You need to proof read this. I'm not sure what it means. Basically I'm saying it's OK for posters to criticise MA if they think we could do better, after all it's a valid opinion, but for me the accusation that he's not a football man doesn't stick. He's spent his entire career in football in some capacity. He's more of a football man than SL, who's very much a businessman, but few would question hs passion for City. You can be a football man and where a suit. It means people who want to replace ma because he isnt a football man and knows nothing about it are wrong, Ma does the job he's employed to do well, his problem is he likes the sound of his own voice, i wish he would just shut up, The only time I want to hear from the ceo is when the accounts come out, New manager let the chairman lead New investment let the owner lead New player let the manager lead, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: But the pivotal factor is Steve Lansdown. I don't hate him but I would like him to set himself free. Promote the Club nationally and internationally, attract a top (foreign) coach and leave the football to the football people Why don’t you say what you really mean? You want SL to put his hands in his pocket to fund this expensive foreign coach. As I’ve said before - easy to spend other people’s money. Once we’ve done that how about we ask uncle Steve to sign Ronaldo, then throw a hissy fit when he says no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 weeks till the players are back for pre-season. If we don't see an appointment by the end of the week we're putting ourselves at an early disadvantage to the rest of the teams in the league that will be identifying and signing targets throughout the season close. You want these players in as early as possible because the pre-season will be shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Why don’t you say what you really mean? You want SL to put his hands in his pocket to fund this expensive foreign coach. As I’ve said before - easy to spend other people’s money. Once we’ve done that how about we ask uncle Steve to sign Ronaldo, then throw a hissy fit when he says no. another fault on here. School-boy exaggeration Look back at the last 15 years of wasting time resources and millions of quids on duff managers and players we could have spent on a top coach and his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, pillred said: It was not the councils fault they actually gave the go ahead for ashton vale it was the village green lot that scuppered it. I thought it was the council that mucked up the boundary marking For the development when it came to the court case or something along those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, Monkeh said: It means people who want to replace ma because he isnt a football man and knows nothing about it are wrong, Ma does the job he's employed to do well, his problem is he likes the sound of his own voice, i wish he would just shut up, The only time I want to hear from the ceo is when the accounts come out, New manager let the chairman lead New investment let the owner lead New player let the manager lead, I think what you say is fair enough but it's naive for anyone (not you) to think that a CEO is not going to have a major input or impact in the football club. The manager/head coach should always have the final say on the playing staff as its his head on the line, but its the CEO who is entrusted by the Chairman/Owner in the day to day running of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, WayOutWest said: Rambling?..... Still running around the front room headless chicken? It's all there logically set out in black and white for those with the wits to read it carefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 28, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: 3 weeks till the players are back for pre-season. If we don't see an appointment by the end of the week we're putting ourselves at an early disadvantage to the rest of the teams in the league that will be identifying and signing targets throughout the season close. You want these players in as early as possible because the pre-season will be shorter. I thought they only had a two and a half week break after the PNE game So that's a week of that gone already almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, phantom said: I thought they only had a two and a half week break after the PNE game So that's a week of that gone already almost I heard it was 3 weeks from PNE game, not from today, I just worded it poorly in the previous post. You're probably correct though, even more important to get someone in ASAP then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: You just said it all there mate. Would mind repeating yourself for those hard of reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Seems our Forum members are split into 2 distinct groups just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Carey 6 said: 3 weeks till the players are back for pre-season. If we don't see an appointment by the end of the week we're putting ourselves at an early disadvantage to the rest of the teams in the league that will be identifying and signing targets throughout the season close. You want these players in as early as possible because the pre-season will be shorter. Less isn't it? Think I read on here that Nagy said it was 2 and a half weeks. From final game, I make that August 8th or something like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 6 hours ago, BrizzleRed said: To be fair, when O’Leary was ‘tried’, he put in some pretty solid performances and certainly looked more dependable than Frankie. He seems to be just another of those players who’s face didn’t fit with LJ. Absolutely fine on the technical side, handling etc. Needs to improve with his feet, more in terms of understanding the pace of the Champ and speed of thought of opposing players. Commanding his box will come. Still young in GK years. Must be our no2 to Bentley next season and bide his time, and learn from watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Absolutely fine on the technical side, handling etc. Needs to improve with his feet, more in terms of understanding the pace of the Champ and speed of thought of opposing players. Commanding his box will come. Still young in GK years. Must be our no2 to Bentley next season and bide his time, and learn from watching. Really think he’s got a promising future. Lower division loans are one thing, but from what we’ve seen so far, it doesn’t look that much of a risk for us playing him at Championship level and he could end up putting some pressure on Bentley to keep up his performance levels too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeble Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 hours ago, southvillekiddy said: The Council sided with the view of the Inspector who represented the 'Village Green" Actually they didn’t. The inspector recommended that the whole site was designated as a village green. The council only wanted to register half of it, allowing the stadium to be built on the remaining half. This led to another judicial review and the prospect of a second inquiry. At this point SL said that if permission was given to redevelop Ashton Gate, Ashton Vale would be abandoned if half remained as village green and the other half could be used for housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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