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Not doubting his commitment and desire, but for such a successful business man he seems to take a while to learn from his football mistakes.  Still very thankful he's involved with our club. 

I guess I'm hopeful he'll learn from the rugby and see the merits of recruiting an experienced coach.  

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1 minute ago, Red Skin said:

Not doubting his commitment and desire, but for such a successful business man he seems to take a while to learn from his football mistakes.  Still very thankful he's involved with our club. 

I guess I'm hopeful he'll learn from the rugby and see the merits of recruiting an experienced coach.  

Let's hope this time he's nailed it. If not, we have to look for a DOF or someone to sit on the recruitment board. 

 

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48 minutes ago, Matthew me said:

Regardless of my serious concerns about the delay in appointment and the appeared lack of planning. I think we all need to remember that SL wants success more than any of us. He's invested huge sums of money and time to help our club. He's not doing it for personal gain! 

Does it appear we've made some poor choices over the years.. yes!.... Was LJ given too long... Yes!... Do we need football people making football decisions.... Yes!

But trust me, SL will feel the pain more than us. He wants success for our club. Let's back the new man, whoever he is. Know that SL will be offering the job to the candidate he genuinely feels is the best fit...

If it works out, great!... If it doesn't , I hope he has the vision to appoint some football experts to make these appointments in the future. We could learn plenty from the Brentford model.

Up the reds, let's try and stay upbeat 

Thanks SL for continuing to invest into our shared passion 

I never understand comments like this either by the person or on behalf of the person.

Why would he feel the pain more than “us”?

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5 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Yeah for me he just makes sense, take what he's doing at Preston and amplify the budget and allow him to recruit the players he wants rather than being given a fraction to reinvest, makes sense from both sides imo. There is a rumoured £3m release clause in his contract that expires in 2 years, but nothing to say that Preston wouldn't be open to accepting a lower amount.

It's understood up here that it's £2.5m.

Still decent money for a manager regardless.

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I have been saying for the last few years that if Johnson were ever to leave (and I began to believe that he never would), Mark Robins would be his replacement.

I have allowed myself to doubt it in the last few weeks due to the rumours. Two weeks ago it seemed to be a new favourite every day. Now it seems to be every six ****ing hours.

It's now at the point where I think that I have gone full circle. Why is it taking so long?...

 

... because we are trying to prise someone away from their current club.

 

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6 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

I have a nagging feeling that it's going to be someone from the continent. 

Leonardo Johnsenio? Looks like LJ, but with a big, drooping mustache.

 

Am I the only one who thinks that the only thing you need to do to become manager, is to be adopted by Gary?

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7 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

What a load of twaddle - Mick had less than a million pounds per season to spend on transfer fees whilst at Ipswich - he was there for six years and over that six year period he was given £5m in total to spend on transfer fees - how the hell is that “had good money to spend, wasted it” - utter rubbish ...

Thanks mate I thought I hadn’t imagined that he kept them very competitive on a shoestring budget!!! Think Mick would be a safe pair of hands who with the backing Johnson had could push us on.

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I am starting to think the club might be losing the upper hand. 

By getting rid of LJ opened up the managerial market early.  The "out of work" would have been easy accessible and discussions quick fire. Decisions on "go" "no go" to proceed had.

Then the club had to wait until the end of the season to approach "contracted managers". This is a little more difficult. Unofficially discussions followed by official approaches.  More time on top of more time. 

When I commended the club for acting swiftly on the axe of LJ, I am beginning to think it's working against them.

Now at the end of the season, they can in all good conscience allow a level playing field for candidate interviews. 

The short list (long list) process should be nearing its conclusion and an announcement imminent. Problem is other positions are becoming available and those same candidates are going through the very same process at other clubs. 

Honestly I love football.... But who would want to actually work in the industry. It must be a nightmare.

Still got my fingers crossed they get their man, twice removed, offered, re-offered, rejected and back on, back off again.. he is signing for who???? Yep his is going to sign... Nope yes.. it's done ... Which one... "OUR FIRST CHOICE" of course... Oh yeah him... Remind me who again 😉 😉😉

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Red Skin said:

Not doubting his commitment and desire, but for such a successful business man he seems to take a while to learn from his football mistakes.  Still very thankful he's involved with our club. 

I guess I'm hopeful he'll learn from the rugby and see the merits of recruiting an experienced coach.  

I think that's what he's trying to do

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7 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I never understand comments like this either by the person or on behalf of the person.

Why would he feel the pain more than “us”?

Because all his decisions are judged, everything he does is in the public eye...

He's lost millions chasing the dream

And you and I don't get slated on forums every time we do something to help the club

Most of us spend £400 a year on a ST and then moan all year. He spends £10m and gets slated most weeks.

So yes, I think the pain is more for him

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2 minutes ago, Matthew me said:

Because all his decisions are judged, everything he does is in the public eye...

He's lost millions chasing the dream

And you and I don't get slated on forums every time we do something to help the club

Most of us spend £400 a year on a ST and then moan all year. He spends £10m and gets slated most weeks.

So yes, I think the pain is more for him

Maybe his ego is a bit more exposed...but it also gets boosts when things go well.

However I never understand the suggestion - which is regularly made - that the volume of his investment makes it more personally significant to him, and hurts him more than our comparatively meagre efforts. According to the Sunday Times rich list last year SL was worth £1.72 billion. £10m doesn't make much of a dent in that does it?...or even £100m. Whereas £400 is a fair amount for most City fans.

I appreciate SL's efforts, but he wanted to own the club. He gets the praise when things go well, and I'm sure expects questions to be asked when they don't.

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1 hour ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Slavisa Jokanovic Is the one I’m hoping we are holding out on. Can’t see us paying out what would be needed, but I’m starting to think it is someone taking a lot of negotiating with. 
 

I think it’s Neil for the reasons you’ve stated , compensation to be agreed with Preston. @Lrrrand @pnefcokhave mentioned release clause above 

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Neil is a good shout, been level with us in the table almost all season, whilst complaining about not being backed properly. Been promoted from this league before. Seems like he would fit between Hughton and Cook in a ranked list of candidates to be honest. Also still pretty young as a manager (39) which might fit our "mould"

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37 minutes ago, Matthew me said:

Because all his decisions are judged, everything he does is in the public eye...

He's lost millions chasing the dream

And you and I don't get slated on forums every time we do something to help the club

Most of us spend £400 a year on a ST and then moan all year. He spends £10m and gets slated most weeks.

So yes, I think the pain is more for him

Steve has done many great things for the club, stadium, training grounds, etc.

But the reason he spends £10m a year. Is mainly down to his poor footballing decisions. The butt stops with SL nobody else.

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53 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

Maybe his ego is a bit more exposed...but it also gets boosts when things go well.

However I never understand the suggestion - which is regularly made - that the volume of his investment makes it more personally significant to him, and hurts him more than our comparatively meagre efforts. According to the Sunday Times rich list last year SL was worth £1.72 billion. £10m doesn't make much of a dent in that does it?...or even £100m. Whereas £400 is a fair amount for most City fans.

I appreciate SL's efforts, but he wanted to own the club. He gets the praise when things go well, and I'm sure expects questions to be asked when they don't.

Yes, but his wealth is mostly paper money so can't go and draw out £1.7bn on his debit card.

That said, I wouldn't mind his problem.

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My top three are now

Jurgen Klaric

Jurgen Klinsmann

Jurgen Klopp

Klaric, as far as I know, is an American motivational speaker, but his name brings a certain symmetry to the list.

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1 hour ago, YGBjammy said:

Neil is a good shout, been level with us in the table almost all season, whilst complaining about not being backed properly. Been promoted from this league before. Seems like he would fit between Hughton and Cook in a ranked list of candidates to be honest. Also still pretty young as a manager (39) which might fit our "mould"

The move in the betting suggests that he may be one of the 'others'. Into 5/1 3rd fav with Skybet having been 16/1 yesterday.

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2 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Because all his decisions are judged, everything he does is in the public eye...

He's lost millions chasing the dream

And you and I don't get slated on forums every time we do something to help the club

Most of us spend £400 a year on a ST and then moan all year. He spends £10m and gets slated most weeks.

So yes, I think the pain is more for him

Let’s be honest, he’s probably lost more money down the back of his sofa than most of us earn in a year, so the financial pain isn’t that great.  Don’t forget, although he’s spent a fortune, that money isn’t all lost, as he still has the financial assets.

As for.other pain, I’d say fans who’ve supported this club for numerous decades are feeling far more accumulated pain than he has in his significantly shorter time at the club.

I’d say his overriding sense is probably more frustration, as it must be tough to see even idiots like Vincent Tann occasionally getting footballing matters right, when for all of his considerable efforts and dedication, SL just can’t do it, even though he’s managed it with the rugby club.

There’s no doubt we’re very fortunate to have him though and let’s just hope the current delays are just him being super careful that the next appointment is the right one. 

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5 hours ago, MC RISK77 said:

Thanks mate I thought I hadn’t imagined that he kept them very competitive on a shoestring budget!!! Think Mick would be a safe pair of hands who with the backing Johnson had could push us on.

Mick has a fine track record punctuated with success whilst working under exceptional financial constraints (Wolves and Ipswich) - we could do a lot worse

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12 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

What a load of twaddle - Mick had less than a million pounds per season to spend on transfer fees whilst at Ipswich - he was there for six years and over that six year period he was given £5m in total to spend on transfer fees - how the hell is that “had good money to spend, wasted it” - utter rubbish ...

In one season he spent over 3 million in fees but brought in 17+ players (what did that cost in wages and agents fees ), then they played absolutely terribly and Marcus "the mysterious" Evans closed his wallet. They grew to hate Mick and his negative tactics at Ipswich and you're advocating him,  there must be better than him surely!

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