Jump to content

Welcome to One Team in Bristol - Bristol City Forums

Welcome to One Team in Bristol - Bristol City Forums, like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community, but don't worry this is a simple free process that requires minimal information for you to signup. Be a part of One Team in Bristol - Bristol City Forums by signing in or creating an account.

  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Full access to all forums (not all viewable as guest)
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get email updates
  • Get your own profile page and make new friends
  • Send personal messages to other members.
  • Support OTIB with a premium membership

IGNORED

Other Manager Options (Merged)


Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Agree. I actually think playing good football is the way to get results now at this level.

Leeds, WBA, Brentford and Fulham all shown that.

I'd say Leeds and Brentford play amazing football and have overachieved. 

Swansea made playoffs that wasn't really expected. A team that also play good football.

Notts Forest failed from where they had been. They play defensive, very boring stuff.

Barnsley went on a remarkable run playing great football and avoided relegation.

Obviously there will always be examples of teams that don't play such pretty football doing well like Cardiff making playoffs.

But I do think the championship has changed in recent seasons. A bit like the prem has in that the likes of Mourinho are not so successful in the modern game. I think we are seeing a similar thing in the championship.

I think there were a couple of concerning things I saw from Holden, but I was otherwise quite impreseed.

I'm certainly not against him getting the job for 12 months. Especially if he plays the kids and plays good football like we saw in quite a few of those games.

I liked that system he went with. Would need to sort out the midfield and strike force though. I'd much rather Wells and Weimann. And id much rather 2 proper midfielders with someone like Pato being able to get more advanced.

 

Lots of sense there Jon.

My only reservation is that winning sometimes make performance / football style seem better than it is.  Sometimes (most of the time?) you often need the best players to play that way.

Barnsley are an interesting one.  Yes, from outside in they look exciting...agreed.

But 30 games, 11w, 7d, 12l 40pts leaves you mid table.  Of course I appreciate he inherited a squad, but he had a transfer window, and he did a good job.  I don’t knows enough to know whether open, attacking football cost them points or not though.

2 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

He either shares culpability or he didn't have the gumption and character to challenge LJ.

Either way he's definitely not the man for the job.

No arguments there.  Same with LJ and the alleged transfers given to him by MA.

Maybe with Dean’s name banded about for the Bolton job, he may have twigged he needs to look out for himself.  I don’t know.  I totally get yours and others views....I’m definitely not keen on appointing from within when a manager is sacked, but I did like what I saw in those 5 games.  Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I saw some hope, after the turgid stuff from LJ.  He’s not my no1 or no2 though.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

He’d need support undoubtedly.  I’m certainly not trying to sell him as the best candidate, and I’m speculating that he could become the best candidate who:

  • either interviewed well
  • truly still wanted the job after interview (that would be damming if so, but I think / guess that someone like Hughton might’ve been more impressed from the outside looking in, than when he got in the interview)

Yeah I'd imagine he interviewed very well. He's good at saying the right thing, he knows what they want to hear and he's probably the least demanding candidate. 

I think your 2nd point is the one that could ruffle a few feathers. 

We've never been such an attractive proposition in the head coach market. The message is consistently that we're looking to the Premier League in the short term. We've spent decent money on players.

To not follow that up with an ambitious appointment will annoy people and (I'm very PR minded), the club would in that case be wise to control the narrative. 

The only way that Holden should get the role, in my view, is if he has been a shining light behind the scenes, someone that has exuded an x-factor all along and just can't be overlooked. If that were the case has should have been in the job immediately. 

We're all trying to read between the lines (what else can we do?!), and you could argue that if Holden gets the role, the process has failed. 

He'd be up against it too. Of course the fans back the new manager vociferously. But fans would turn on him a lot quicker than a higher profile appointee.

If our big problem in this process is around budget, I'd hope we find out about it so that we can all be honest about where the club is heading. 

The obvious positive with Holden is continuity. No need to rip everything up and start again.

I wonder if Ashley Williams would be offered a role? Would Weimann become a midfielder? Would Massengo be frozen out? Would Holden get a better tune out of Wells?

So many questions...

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Lots of sense there Jon.

My only reservation is that winning sometimes make performance / football style seem better than it is.  Sometimes (most of the time?) you often need the best players to play that way.

Barnsley are an interesting one.  Yes, from outside in they look exciting...agreed.

But 30 games, 11w, 7d, 12l 40pts leaves you mid table.  Of course I appreciate he inherited a squad, but he had a transfer window, and he did a good job.  I don’t knows enough to know whether open, attacking football cost them points or not though.

No arguments there.  Same with LJ and the alleged transfers given to him by MA.

Maybe with Dean’s name banded about for the Bolton job, he may have twigged he needs to look out for himself.  I don’t know.  I totally get yours and others views....I’m definitely not keen on appointing from within when a manager is sacked, but I did like what I saw in those 5 games.  Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I saw some hope, after the turgid stuff from LJ.  He’s not my no1 or no2 though.

They were pretty tight at the back I think in that run since lockdown.

I imagine if they had better players then Struper would manage to get them higher than he did.

12th from when he took over with that squad is some achievement.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, JonDolman said:

They were pretty tight at the back I think in that run since lockdown.

I imagine if they had better players then Struper would manage to get them higher than he did.

12th from when he took over with that squad is some achievement.

Who's your number 1 at the moment Jon? Is it still Jokanović?

Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The fact that it’s “dragged” on in many of our minds, make me feel Holden is getting closer to being announced.

I am totally guessing, but in my mind, the club had one big last push with one or more of the other candidates at the back end of the week / over the weekend and if they reached an impasse, Holden is gonna get it. 

Said the same thing 10 minutes before you posted - its getting late in the day for an external appointment with players back on Monday. Whoever is in post needs this week as preparation, which Holden is probably doing anyway.

(cue Hughton being announced today....)

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Who's your number 1 at the moment Jon? Is it still Jokanović?

Yeah as an unrealistic option.

I like the idea of Struper, Baumgart or Slot. Or any other of that type the club may have found.

Robins would probably be my first British choice.

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anybody heard if there is one...? 

 

 

 

Sorry! 

Not even me when well lubricated comes out with c%$p like that. I except aubergines when i post s&^t and I truly love them. Mate you are getting to get heaps,

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Gregor Macgregor's reply this lunchtime to when new man will be appointed:

 

 

 

We’ll start with the bad news. Regarding the head coach, we understand that nothing is imminent. That was sourced yesterday and so we don’t expect anything to happen today. However, I’d caveat that with that things can change very quickly and it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that that changes much, much later today. But we’re not expecting any announcements today.

As regards timing, as previously reported, the players were told to expect news 7-10 days after the season’s end on the new head coach. So we are expecting news soon. And with pre-season starting next week then there’s a good chance we’ll hear later this week.

.

 

Edited by Hillzider
Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I can be mate. As long you stand your round, or have great tits... 😉

Double whammy ( so to speak) would be both!

Second thoughts -  chances of that are as slim as our new manager being announced before they discover a covid-19 vaccine.

Edited by downendcity
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, mozo said:

Yeah I'd imagine he interviewed very well. He's good at saying the right thing, he knows what they want to hear and he's probably the least demanding candidate. 

I think your 2nd point is the one that could ruffle a few feathers. 

We've never been such an attractive proposition in the head coach market. The message is consistently that we're looking to the Premier League in the short term. We've spent decent money on players.

To not follow that up with an ambitious appointment will annoy people and (I'm very PR minded), the club would in that case be wise to control the narrative.
yes, said from the start, that if they appoint someone who fans think isn’t good enough, they will need to do a really good PR job.

The only way that Holden should get the role, in my view, is if he has been a shining light behind the scenes, someone that has exuded an x-factor all along and just can't be overlooked. If that were the case has should have been in the job immediately. 

We're all trying to read between the lines (what else can we do?!), and you could argue that if Holden gets the role, the process has failed.

Yes, we are....just as well we have OTIB 😜

He'd be up against it too. Of course the fans back the new manager vociferously. But fans would turn on him a lot quicker than a higher profile appointee.

If our big problem in this process is around budget, I'd hope we find out about it so that we can all be honest about where the club is heading.

I don’t necessarily see lack of budget being synonymous with where we are heading.  Our budget relative to others could still be good.  There must be some clubs really sweating (more than Prince Andrew), those who’ve pushed ffp to the limits and now have hugely reduced income.

The obvious positive with Holden is continuity. No need to rip everything up and start again.
I think that’s what I’m buying if he does get it, that he will be straight on the front foot.

I wonder if Ashley Williams would be offered a role?

I would.  Part-coach, part-player cover, but like Alby was on, before he went to Bolton.  I hear from a good source he has been very good off the pitch.

Would Weimann become a midfielder? Would Massengo be frozen out? Would Holden get a better tune out of Wells?

So many questions...

yep!!

 

 

24 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

They were pretty tight at the back I think in that run since lockdown.

GF33

GA36

You could argue, nice football, not enough end product....⬇️⬇️⬇️

I imagine if they had better players then Struper would manage to get them higher than he did.

...but maybe that’s down to players as you say?  It’s so difficult to tell how one manager will do with another managers players....but he definitely appears to have something about him.  Still looks too much like Jean-Paul Gaultier (Eurotrash) for my liking 😂

12th from when he took over with that squad is some achievement.

I’m not sure it was a bad squad

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Hillzider said:

Gregor Macgregor's reply this lunchtime to when new man will be appointed:

 

 

 

We’ll start with the bad news. Regarding the head coach, we understand that nothing is imminent. That was sourced yesterday and so we don’t expect anything to happen today. However, I’d caveat that with that things can change very quickly and it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that that changes much, much later today. But we’re not expecting any announcements today.

As regards timing, as previously reported, the players were told to expect news 7-10 days after the season’s end on the new head coach. So we are expecting news soon. And with pre-season starting next week then there’s a good chance we’ll hear later this week.

.

 

A very long winded way of admitting that he hasn't got a clue!!

  • Like 2
  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • elhombrecito changed the title to Is there a press conference today?
  • TomF changed the title to Other Manager Options (Merged)

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...