REDOXO Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, Taz said: If he is the new guy, I'd expect City would pay compensation regardless, if nothing else to make it look less "messy". It does make me think that Cooke may not even be in the running after all of this!! Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Nudge not nudge wink wink Yeah! That may be the case, however if it is this looks really messy, if hes appointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: Promotions in leagues below ours in comparison to a man who has managed to achieve 2 promotions out of this league? I'm failing to see the hype. Why are you comparing Cook to a manager who doesn’t want to join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: Promotions in leagues below ours in comparison to a man who has managed to achieve 2 promotions out of this league? I'm failing to see the hype. Can only win what league he’s in. Good job for Sheffield Utd they didn’t think like that about Chris wilder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: better then the previous 4 seasons Totally agree, but we've been poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: Promotion out of any league is an achievement, but to do it at different clubs consistently is fantastic That would put him on a similar trajectory to Chris Wilder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: getting defeatist with stats from previous clubs only city fans can be like this ******* hell Years of pain will do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Why are you comparing Cook to a manager who doesn’t want to join? We have 2 obvious candidates so how could you not compare them? Also where has he said he doesn't want to join? Everything I've read has said he would like to become our next manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: We have 2 obvious candidates so how could you not compare them? Also where has he said he doesn't want to join? Everything I've read has said he would like to become our next manager. Weird it hasn’t happened then eh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Weird it hasn’t happened then eh!! And I guess you're ITK and know why? Haven't seen one reliable source saying it's not happening. Enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 22 hours ago, BrizzleRed said: I can never understand this comment when it comes up. What would be your ambition for next season actually be then? Surely the play-off’s aren’t the ultimate aim, they are a means to try and get a shot at the Prem. You’re at a massive disadvantage if you scrape into the Premier League through possibly finishing 6th in the Championship, as the chances are, you’ll struggle massively in the Prem, if you could only manage 6th in the Championship the previous year. I’d rather we had a positive mindset and aimed for top 2, with the play-off’s being a fall back, not the ultimate aim. I also think we could be surprised at how much better we could perform under the right head coach. Paul Cook isn’t my first choice, but as many on here like to keep talking about progression. Well, he seems to have managed that in pretty much every management job he’s had, so he could well have it in him to take us to where we want to go. Wigan looked good when we played them at the Gate this year and if that’s the type of football we could expect under him, then bring it on! I’m with you in that minority too Matt and I’d go for mid-table entertainment, over the mid-table yawn fest we suffered this year, any day I would say that it normally takes 2-3 season's to build a team ready for the prem. You go for playoffs first season because it's just unrealistic to expect top 2 I think especially with a shorter summer period. If you happen to win playoffs and go up then because of parachute payments even if you go straight back to the club is in a much better position provided you don't spend recklessly which I don't think we would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, MATT BCFC said: I would say that it normally takes 2-3 season's to build a team ready for the prem. You go for playoffs first season because it's just unrealistic to expect top 2 I think especially with a shorter summer period. If you happen to win playoffs and go up then because of parachute payments even if you go straight back to the club is in a much better position provided you don't spend recklessly which I don't think we would. I get that Matt, but if we believe what we’re told, that player recruitment is largely carried out by Mark Ashton, we’re already well past that timescale of 2-3 years. Either our last head coach couldn’t get the best of our squad of players, or after a good number of years and many millions spent, the squad just wasn’t good enough. If it was the latter, the same problem remains (MA) and leads you to question whether he will ever get it right. Our whole ‘project’ was supposedly based on maintaining continuity and not having to rebuild the squad after a head coach leaves. If we do require a rebuild now, I think some serious questions need to be answered by our recruitment team, particularly MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Someone different looking for an opportunity https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8569719/Hernan-Crespo-admits-seeing-Marcelo-Bielsa-Leeds-inspired-manage-England.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 18 hours ago, Matthew me said: Years of pain will do that Being a bit nosey here . The me after Matthew. Are you a northerner and say it after every sentence like Neil warnock or are you a medical examiner like Quincy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: Being a bit nosey here . The me after Matthew. Are you a northerner and say it after every sentence like Neil warnock or are you a medical examiner like Quincy ? Southern born and raised.... No idea why I added "me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, billywedlock said: So Cook it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Cook to be announced today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Cook to be announced today Source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 All the talk from Wednesdays fans is they want Cook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 19 hours ago, BrizzleRed said: I get that Matt, but if we believe what we’re told, that player recruitment is largely carried out by Mark Ashton, we’re already well past that timescale of 2-3 years. Either our last head coach couldn’t get the best of our squad of players, or after a good number of years and many millions spent, the squad just wasn’t good enough. If it was the latter, the same problem remains (MA) and leads you to question whether he will ever get it right. Our whole ‘project’ was supposedly based on maintaining continuity and not having to rebuild the squad after a head coach leaves. If we do require a rebuild now, I think some serious questions need to be answered by our recruitment team, particularly MA. I don't think we should have to rebuild. Currently we probably need a new centre half, central midfielder and right back. I do think if new manager fails however then serious questions need to be answered by MA. I just hope the new manager and MA are both in agreement what style we want to play and agree on the type of players we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk from Wednesdays fans is they want Cook! Why on earth would he go there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk from Wednesdays fans is they want Cook! I think you misheard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Why on earth would he go there? Geography and that’s it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk from Wednesdays fans is they want Cook! They don't have a vacancy do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, mozo said: They don't have a vacancy do they? No but they don't like Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, MATT BCFC said: I don't think we should have to rebuild. Currently we probably need a new centre half, central midfielder and right back. I do think if new manager fails however then serious questions need to be answered by MA. I just hope the new manager and MA are both in agreement what style we want to play and agree on the type of players we want. Agree with all that. Your last paragraph is crucial and and apart from that period in late ‘17 when we went for the high tempo, high press game, we just didn’t have style under LJ, so it’ll be refreshing if our new HC can actually instill some style into our play, rather than the muddled mess we’ve become used to. Here’s hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: No but they don't like Monk I don't think they are financially in a position to sack him so Wednesday fans would have to hope he walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk from Wednesdays fans is they want to Cook the books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Why on earth would he go there? Experience of managing a team with a 12 point deduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 If it is cook the food puns will keep us going for the next few seasons... plus he does serve up good football, not sure if he’s ever been sacked (potato) either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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