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26 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Yeah my examples aren't great you're correct, and although I have no actual evidence of player turning us down, (I don't work for the club) I'm certain if a similar offer was made to a player by us and say, Fulham, hes going to Fulham. 

The point I am badly making is we are a small club in a part of the country that is hardly a hotbed for football achievement, often hiring managers who are pretty unknown outside of divisions 3 or 4. 

I really feel we need to make a bolder move and pay the money. The manager is out leader but likely paid less than the right back. 

Agree, but that's all to do with Fulham's recent Premier League status, nothing to do with Scott Parker....

A player (up until now) would have probably chosen Bournemouth over Leeds. That's nothing to do with brand and everything to do with being in the Premier League.

We aren't a small club, and we're not a big club. Until we play Premier League football then the wider footballing world won't have much knowledge of us, that's just the sad fact of there being very little knowledge of life outside the top flight.

If we don't appoint Hughton, IMO, it'll be nothing to do with money. Lansdown for all his faults, is not afraid of putting his hand in his pocket. IMO all the 'cheap option' talk is well wide of the mark.

I actually agree to an extent that I'd quite like a 'name' to elevate our profile. But there's a lot more to it than just 'go and get him'.

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1 hour ago, bris red said:

Its this small time mentality that many of our fans have that still holds us back

Could you explain how 'the fans are holding us back'. As far as I'm aware they are not involved in appointing the manager. They're only able to express an opinion, largely on here!

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29 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

That’s a very good point.

 

Maybe I'm just a typical fickle football fan... but for me it's hard to listen to that and not be excited. Extremely driven guy with admiration for the club and a proven winner (if at lower league level). If Paul Cook turns out to be our man then he'll have my full support. Thanks for sharing. 

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7 hours ago, Riaz said:

 

Total bollocks.

as i said a million times. When it comes to appointing the most important position in a football club, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CHEAP OPTION

Just because he isn’t a big name, means **** all. If we appointed Chris wilder a few years ago, you would both be moaning and look what’s he’s done at Sheffield United 

Big names rarely do well at city. So give me a so called underwhelming name every day of the week!

Chris Hughton is hardly a big name. He is simply the best candidate for the job. 
 

Is Paul Cook the best man for the job? Or is it a case of he comes at a good price considering Wigan are potless 

Would we be going for him had Wigan stayed up, not been in dire straits and if we had to pay a lot more compo? 
 

im not so sure 

Either way, I’ll get behind the guy. He can’t be any worse then the last guy 

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11 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Chris Hughton is hardly a big name. He is simply the best candidate for the job. 
 

Is Paul Cook the best man for the job? Or is it a case of he comes at a good price considering Wigan are potless 

Would we be going for him had Wigan stayed up, not been in dire straits and if we had to pay a lot more compo? 
 

im not so sure 

Either way, I’ll get behind the guy. He can’t be any worse then the last guy 

I think the answer to that is very possibly yes. 

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5 hours ago, chowie said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Matthew me said:

£.1.2m for a manager that has won promotion from the championship and managed in the premier. Experienced, great connections and we'll liked in the game

Or save a few quid and get someone that's had two seasons in the championship managing a team in the bottom half of the table.

We are making a very clear statement with this appointment, and it's not a good one

Seems Mr. Cook is up there with the very best in terms of winning games.

A good stat - much better than win percentages taken out of context.

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13 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Chris Hughton is hardly a big name. He is simply the best candidate for the job. 
 

Is Paul Cook the best man for the job? Or is it a case of he comes at a good price considering Wigan are potless 

Would we be going for him had Wigan stayed up, not been in dire straits and if we had to pay a lot more compo? 
 

im not so sure 

Either way, I’ll get behind the guy. He can’t be any worse then the last guy 

Hughton is certainly my preferred choice. However it is not always possible to get what you want for a number of reasons. I also agree that Paul Cook is not the type of Manager who you would say "go and get him, I don't care what it costs". However, if Hughton has made himself unsuitable for the job (not saying he has) then is there much out there that is both better than Paul Cook and we can realistically get?

If it was impossible to get the first choice and out of the other seven interviewed we've gone for the second best then I'm ok with that.

Absolutely agree that the Manager, whoever it is, has to be backed by the fans. People need to remember that, whether you want him here or not, the final choice won't be appointing himself!!

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17 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Chris Hughton is hardly a big name. He is simply the best candidate for the job. 
 

Is Paul Cook the best man for the job? Or is it a case of he comes at a good price considering Wigan are potless 

Would we be going for him had Wigan stayed up, not been in dire straits and if we had to pay a lot more compo? 
 

im not so sure 

Either way, I’ll get behind the guy. He can’t be any worse then the last guy 

Who says he's the best candidate? How many younger players has he played at his previous clubs.

How would he cope with a small budget than he's used too? How would he cope with constantly losing his best players?

 

And the last guy did a very good job overall

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1 minute ago, Eastside Moonwalker said:

Would’ve rather kept LJ tbh.. means we have to pay his compensation and hire a manager who is half the proven quality of CH... another mid table season next year then

Based on?

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1 minute ago, Eastside Moonwalker said:

The fact Chris hughton has multiple promotions to the premier league and Paul cook has managed chesterfield, Portsmouth and Accrington? 

Is that it?

When was Paul Cook been given a job with the resources of Norwich Brighton and Newcastle?

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6 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said:

The fact Chris hughton has multiple promotions to the premier league and Paul cook has managed chesterfield, Portsmouth and Accrington? 

And has multiple promotions under his belt

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2 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said:

Hardly to the level of premier league though is it?

Eddie Howe had 0 promotions to the PL or managerial experience when he took over Bournemouth in League 2.

As have many others

 

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15 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Follow up tweet...

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This did cross my mind earlier. The administrators are quite rightly not football people and are there to keep the company afloat and to raise as many funds as possible to repay creditors. 

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6 hours ago, supercidered said:

Its a bit like our new Striker hunt last summer. Ended up with Afobe which if I remember correctly was around 5th on the list of the most wanted. 

 

And then spun by MA as a master stroke. He was a quality addition but last minute nature of it didn’t help 

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2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I don't think it'll be legal for them to imprison him!  If he wants to quit, there's nothing that could stop him. 

If he joins another club shortly after I imagine Wigan/Administrators would have a case for compensation, he's under contract for a couple of seasons yet, he can't just quit so another employer can avoid compensation. If he wants to resign to literally have time away from football then they can't stop him

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2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said:

If Cook is under contract at Wigan can he just resign and take anther job? I thought clubs had to generally pay compensation to take another club's manager. Why can't they all get round it by asking their 'target' to simply resign if this is the case? 

Also, if we've interviewed him while under contract at Wigan isn't that considered poaching and against the rules? 

I do find the rules around this in football a bit confusing. Maybe them being in Administration affects it? 

So - maybe I was right to be confused after all.... 

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33 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Follow up tweet...

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Oh my word. Really, they see him as an asset? Interesting analysis I guess.

If you're asking what it means. The administrators have a duty to the creditors of Wigan to recoup and pay them as high a % of what they are owed as possible. To do that they need to realise as much cash as they can by selling off the assets of the company, or by selling the company itself. Generally this can be done by selling anything from the tables and chairs in the canteen, to uncollected debts.

In football clubs it's also the contracts of players.

Seems as though the Admin has identified that Cook's contract still has value in it (the compensation) that a club may have to pay, and so if it allowed him to break his contract then it may be failing in its duty to raise cash.

We won't really be able to tell or have a view as we don't know the terms of his contract - ie who has the right to break it, how they do that, and what payments are required.

Ultimately, as always, money will talk.

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1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

It’s got to be Cook - I think the club will appoint him to give everyone an above average chance of spelling his surname correctly - after giving us significant recent challenges in this regard by appointing McInnes, O’Driscoll and Cotterill, we have now been teased by the club and fans touting potential managers with such difficult surnames as Adkins, Gerrard and Hughton.

And all this on top of giving us current players with impossible first or surnames - eg: Paterson, Dasilva, Maenpaa (including umlauts above three letters!), Diedhiou (with an acute above the ‘e’!), Korey, Weimann, Szmodics, Adelakun, Eliasson, Nahki ... and Sir Steve would also like to point out (I’m sure!) that his surname does not end with an ‘e’ ....

So, to end this madness, they must give us a gaffer with an easy to spell name ... two words, four letters in each - although you just know he will be referred to as Cooke before long ... 🤓😄😳

(....before anyone gets annoyed and tries to use ‘autocorrect’ as the flimsiest of excuses, this post is very much intended to be taken as a lighthearted musing in the midst of all this managerial mayhem!)

Yeah, I agree. Looking like Cock will get the job! 😬

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