Tangle Foot Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: "The latest football news and rumours brought to you by an esteemed group of ex-journalists and reporters." 2k followers.. And they posted it over 2 hours ago with no other outlet picking it up. Having looked at some of the other stories they are posting I’d have to say the story is premature. I suspect they’ve taken a gamble that it might end up being true. One of their other post seems to value Tiago, of Bayern Munich, at £50M COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Paul Cook has won 104 league games since the start of the 2015-16 season; only Chris Wilder (119), Jurgen Klopp (118) and Pep Guardiola (113) have won more in the English top four tiers in this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Tangle Foot said: So no compensation to pay, if it is Cook, then! Interesting timing too. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Paul Cook has won 104 league games since the start of the 2015-16 season; only Chris Wilder (119), Jurgen Klopp (118) and Pep Guardiola (113) have won more in the English top four tiers in this time. He has a win ratio of 43.6% as a manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tangle Foot said: So no compensation to pay, if it is Cook, then! Interesting timing too. COYR. It might not be direct compensation but to ‘persuade’ Cook to leave Wigan we may have agreed to pay up his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: He has a win ratio of 43.6% as a manager The more I think about it the more I change my mind from Hughton to him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: He has a win ratio of 43.6% as a manager That’s pretty good isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Judda said: The more I think about it the more I change my mind from Hughton to him.... Yeah I'm becoming intrigued by Cook...but that might be because I'm so impatient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: He has a win ratio of 43.6% as a manager Thats a good one, anything over 40% is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Judda said: The more I think about it the more I change my mind from Hughton to him.... I’d still prefer CH even though his win rate is 40.6 % but I’d be happy with Paul Cook as an alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Judda said: The more I think about it the more I change my mind from Hughton to him.... I agree, I certainly don’t see why any fans wouldn’t respect his record so far, yes he’s not done it at this level yet, but at least he has previous for promotions unlike LJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: I’d still prefer CH whose win rate is 40.6 % but I’d be happy with Paul Cook as an alternative .... especially as CH wins will have been at a higher level. Would still prefer CH, but PC is growing on me more, the longer this thing drags on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 hours ago, The hand of RO'D said: Fair comment. I was just so geared up for us to finally complete the jigsaw with a big name manager like Hughton that Paul Cook being appointed just feels to me uninspiring. Forget he’s not a big name . Have a good look at his managerial history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Jon Lansdown is tweeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Jon Lansdown is tweeting Tinnion too, both the afternoon after Cook leaves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 hours ago, The hand of RO'D said: Fair comment. I was just so geared up for us to finally complete the jigsaw with a big name manager like Hughton that Paul Cook being appointed just feels to me uninspiring. Paul Cook’s win ratio for his last 3 clubs (*according to WIKI): Chesterfield: 44.8% Portsmouth: 48.6% Wigan: 41.3% Judging by those percentages, he may not be as uninspiring as you may initially think. I’d also have say he is someone I think we could all get behind! I he was appointed. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 what are they saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Jon Lansdown is tweeting Not that I can see. Been deleted maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: what are they saying. See the Hughton thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 All these win ratios are annoying and misleading, the fact is that this season, and this season alone, his win ratio over 46 championship games was 32% which isn't nearly as impressive as his EFL record. All this does is show the difference between League one and the Championship. In perspective Swansea, who finished in the last play off position by pretty much the last kick of the season had a win ratio of 39%,that is a big difference! The only win ratio that matters with a manager in relevance to a Championship job is their win ratio in that league. I'm not saying Cook won't do better with us or that he's not got potential but these win ratio discussions are misleading and out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spike said: All these win ratios are annoying and misleading, the fact is that this season, and this season alone, his win ratio over 46 championship games was 32% which isn't nearly as impressive as his EFL record. All this does is show the difference between League one and the Championship. In perspective Swansea, who finished in the last play off position by pretty much the last kick of the season had a win ratio of 39%,that is a big difference! The only win ratio that matters with a manager in relevance to a Championship job is their win ratio in that league. I'm not saying Cook won't do better with us or that he's not got potential but these win ratio discussions are misleading and out of context. 32% with Wigan is damn impressive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah I'm becoming intrigued by Cook...but that might be because I'm so impatient... And me....but that might be the £10 i got on at 18-1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: 32% with Wigan is damn impressive IMO. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad at all but this whole quoting of 41% is largely misleading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Spike said: All these win ratios are annoying and misleading, the fact is that this season, and this season alone, his win ratio over 46 championship games was 32% which isn't nearly as impressive as his EFL record. All this does is show the difference between League one and the Championship. In perspective Swansea, who finished in the last play off position by pretty much the last kick of the season had a win ratio of 39%,that is a big difference! The only win ratio that matters with a manager in relevance to a Championship job is their win ratio in that league. I'm not saying Cook won't do better with us or that he's not got potential but these win ratio discussions are misleading and out of context. I dislike win ratio.....points per game is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, Tangle Foot said: Paul Cook’s win ratio for his last 3 clubs (*according to WIKI): Chesterfield: 44.8% Portsmouth: 48.6% Wigan: 41.3% Judging by those percentages, he may not be as uninspiring as you may initially think. I’d also have say he is someone I think we could all get behind! I he was appointed. COYR. A 40% win rate would give us average points of 57, then add 13 draws and we'd get 70 points Hardly world beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Tinnion too, both the afternoon after Cook leaves... 54 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Jon Lansdown is tweeting If Paul Cook does become our new manager, will Chey Dunkley follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matthew me said: A 40% win rate would give us average points of 57, then add 13 draws and we'd get 70 points Hardly world beating better then the previous 4 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboBCFC Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, E.G.Red said: If Paul Cook does become our new manager, will Chey Dunkley follow? There's a few of their players I would be happy to see us pick up to be honest! Whoever gets Robinson on the cheap has got themselves a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spike said: All these win ratios are annoying and misleading, the fact is that this season, and this season alone, his win ratio over 46 championship games was 32% which isn't nearly as impressive as his EFL record. All this does is show the difference between League one and the Championship. In perspective Swansea, who finished in the last play off position by pretty much the last kick of the season had a win ratio of 39%,that is a big difference! The only win ratio that matters with a manager in relevance to a Championship job is their win ratio in that league. I'm not saying Cook won't do better with us or that he's not got potential but these win ratio discussions are misleading and out of context. Also this season, both Johnson & Cook’s losing league ratio was 36.96% (but Wigan lost only 7 matches from 30th November 2019 to end of the season). COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 If Paul Cook has just resigned I am not sure how he could have already been interviewed, as has been reported, unless Wigan gave us permission to speak with him. If that's the case, and he comes here, then legal action is inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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