Superjack Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Bat Fastard said: We know that it is a team effort and Mark Ashton would do the negotiations. We also know that targets are lined up months in advance. The coach will have to agree on the target, which puts DH in an advantageous position. We know nothing of the sort. For someone that has spent this thread explaining what we don't know, it is ironic that you claim something that we have only been told as cast iron fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Waaaay too much smoke without fire now. Actually cannot ******* believe this. McAllister staying too Ask matey Lee if he fancies another crack of the whip... It beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Will feel a bit sorry for DH if he gets the job - on a hiding to nothing from day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Impeccable spelling. Sure sign that this is for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: Ok thanks matey and what I suspected. I’ve followed this club since the 1960’s, but I’ll confess my actual attendance at matches isn’t unconditional. I’ll always follow results and any news on the club regarless, but if this appointment is confirmed, I’ll feel like the supporters have been seriously shafted by the board, so I’ll make my protest in the only way us ‘customers’ can and will have no problem walking away and following from a distance. Although I’ve already renewed my ST for this season and turned down the opportunity of a refund for last season, I’ll certainly take it, if it’s offered this year. My love of football in general has waned in recent years and the last two seasons has texted me to the limit. If DH is now appointed after all the hype we’ve had from senior people at the club, this will be the very large straw that broke this particular camel’s back sadly. Sad to hear that. I hope you will forgive the club whatever you feel are their mistakes and get behind the boys on the pitch. I'm not sure about you, but I was very happy watching our promotion season in League 1. It is not just the level but the matchday magic, atmosphere, Feed the Goat nosh and the whole experience that I love. I cannot go back until vaccinated but I hope that will be as soon as possible. Not sure about you, but I need my fix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Taylors a Red Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, billywedlock said: This is the Steve Lansdown “ its my toy and I’ll do what I want “ There is a lot of crap to come from this and it is the beginning of the end for Lansdown . He has no idea how many are going to lay the truth out now . Correct me if I’m wrong, but after LJ’s record losing streak didn’t SL come out in a long interview and literally say “it’s my club and I’ll do what I want with it”. I’m adamant I saw it on the big screen and my old man is sure he remembers it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Matty Taylors a Red said: Correct me if I’m wrong, but after LJ’s record losing streak didn’t SL come out in a long interview and literally say “it’s my club and I’ll do what I want with it”. I’m adamant I saw it on the big screen and my old man is sure he remembers it too. Yes, more or less. He puts in more money than us so we have to put up or shut up, basically… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Sure plenty will know of this chap: I can't take this anymore. If that is true Im done for. Im gonna have to call the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooknRobin Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: The answer is that I am passionate about Bristol City. Boards, managers and players come and go - but as long as I have life in this ageing body I will support whatever is put in front of me. I have supported in every division and really enjoyed some of the lower as well as the higher level football. Bristol City is part of what I am and I simply cannot change that. I am realistic enough to know that whatever I think it amounts to diddlysquat. Others make the decisions, who we buy, who manages, what shirts we wear etc etc I can confirm BF’s passion for City. I can also confirm he does love a wind up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Superjack said: We know nothing of the sort. For someone that has spent this thread explaining what we don't know, it is ironic that you claim something that we have only been told as cast iron fact. Sorry but we have had this explained to us by Mark Ashton and by Lee Johnson. I'm sure the other coaches also get involved and offer their opinions. They would not sign a 'keeper without speaking to the specialist goalkeeping coach, for example. DH will be "in the know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, kent red said: I can confirm BF’s passion for City. I can also confirm he does love a wind up... Your view. I thought I was being fairly logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matty Taylors a Red said: Correct me if I’m wrong, but after LJ’s record losing streak didn’t SL come out in a long interview and literally say “it’s my club and I’ll do what I want with it”. I’m adamant I saw it on the big screen and my old man is sure he remembers it too. Yes. He also came up with this corker: "If Bristol City fans don't want me here anymore, then I'll go, but I won't do that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: Sad to hear that. I hope you will forgive the club whatever you feel are their mistakes and get behind the boys on the pitch. I'm not sure about you, but I was very happy watching our promotion season in League 1. It is not just the level but the matchday magic, atmosphere, Feed the Goat nosh and the whole experience that I love. I cannot go back until vaccinated but I hope that will be as soon as possible. Not sure about you, but I need my fix! Can't remember when there was a matchday fix it's been f****** depressing for years and now this,Sorry to say but a large percentage of fans have had enough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 I can’t actually friggin believe we’re about to appoint an already failed coaching staff on a permanent basis after 5 long weeks of so say ‘looking at a long list of good applicants’. I mean, who ******* does that? How on earth can the board come back from this?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, billywedlock said: This is the Steve Lansdown “ its my toy and I’ll do what I want “ There is a lot of crap to come from this and it is the beginning of the end for Lansdown . He has no idea how many are going to lay the truth out now . Grateful to SL for all he’s done but he’s just can’t help himself , Tinnion, Millen , Johnson and now Holden , easy cheap yes men that he can control just doesn’t want to be challenged , it’s my ball and I pick the coach regardless of any sense. He may be laughing at us but this time it’s serious , add the COVID factor to genuine fans saying sod this not bothering, for all the happy clappers day there will be a massive negative cost to this ridiculous decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: The others may have ruled themselves out by refusing to work within the ethos of the club. We will never know. Well in that case the ‘ethos’ is well and truly fooooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Street red said: Can't remember when there was a matchday fix it's been f****** depressing for years and now this sorry to say but a big percentage of fans have had enough!! Hope springs eternal. It may surprise you that I have never ever booed our players - only the opposition. I always stay until the end and never leave early - and I am usually in my seat an hour before kick off. Love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, lenred said: Well in that case the ‘ethos’ is well and truly fooooked. The ethos of developing talent and operating within the rules and budget are sensible in my opinion. The clubs that do not stick to the straight and narrow and bend the rules often seem to come unstuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: Sad to hear that. I hope you will forgive the club whatever you feel are their mistakes and get behind the boys on the pitch. I'm not sure about you, but I was very happy watching our promotion season in League 1. It is not just the level but the matchday magic, atmosphere, Feed the Goat nosh and the whole experience that I love. I cannot go back until vaccinated but I hope that will be as soon as possible. Not sure about you, but I need my fix! I was happy watching our promotion season in L1 too. Exciting, attractive football. Which is why, barring a relegation threat, league position is not as important to me as entertaining football that I want to watch. And that is why the LJ defenders (I believe yourself included) that kept using the minimal place league progression every year as a stick to defend him with got on my nerves so much. I don't want Holden because just a month ago the board promised us so much more. But I would still prefer him over Johnson. When he is inevitably appointed, my only hope for his tenure is that he may take a more positive stance, focus on our team's strengths rather than those of the opposition and get the players to believe that they are allowed to express themselves. If he does that, I will have no complaints about him unless we are around the bottom three. I will still have many about the board. Either way, I hope you (and us all) can get back to AG asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Is there anyway we can have a DoF to oversee the coaching team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: The ethos of developing talent and operating within the rules and budget are sensible in my opinion. The clubs that do not stick to the straight and narrow and bend the rules often seem to come unstuck. You do understand you do not have to reply to every post? Jesus go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Bat Fastard said: The ethos of developing talent and operating within the rules and budget are sensible in my opinion. The clubs that do not stick to the straight and narrow and bend the rules often seem to come unstuck. I agree. And what makes you think that most managers with a track record wouldn’t agree either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: The ethos of developing talent and operating within the rules and budget are sensible in my opinion. The clubs that do not stick to the straight and narrow and bend the rules often seem to come unstuck. Don’t you have to be somewhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, Bat Fastard said: The ethos of developing talent and operating within the rules and budget are sensible in my opinion. The clubs that do not stick to the straight and narrow and bend the rules often seem to come unstuck. I come away from the politics Forum because of your nonsense and constant winding of people up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Superjack said: I was happy watching our promotion season in L1 too. Exciting, attractive football. Which is why, barring a relegation threat, league position is not as important to me as entertaining football that I want to watch. And that is why the LJ defenders (I believe yourself included) that kept using the minimal place league progression every year as a stick to defend him with got on my nerves so much. I don't want Holden because just a month ago the board promised us so much more. But I would still prefer him over Johnson. When he is inevitably appointed, my only hope for his tenure is that he may take a more positive stance, focus on our team's strengths rather than those of the opposition and get the players to believe that they are allowed to express themselves. If he does that, I will have no complaints about him unless we are around the bottom three. I will still have many about the board. We all want great football and it remains to be seen what DH would deliver. I believe he will find it easier to manage if he is well supported by the fans. I expect lots of young players on the pitch next season and they will all do better if they are enthusiastically supported and given the confidence to strut their stuff. Choosing a manager is not a democratic exercise - so support whoever we get and put the past in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Sure plenty will know of this chap: If, and I mean if this is true, then buckle in because it’s about to get worse. What I would also say off the back of this (if true) is that I’ll probably view LJ’s time at the helm in a different light. If he had to put up with this kind of megalo/egomaniacal behaviour from the top then he actually didn’t do as much of a mediocre job as it appeared. This has the hallmarks of a vanity project appointment which has been overthought and over complicated to secure positions of influence. Makes you wonder how much LJ may have been hamstrung by other vanity projects during his time which were thrust upon him that he then got criticism for: Kent (looks great to get around a table with Liverpool) - costly and ineffective signing. Nketiah (twice) (let’s get around a table with Arsenal) - all eggs in one basket and ultimately cost us (Benik was a late and great addition unfortunately scuppered by injury, but a wonderful guy to have around the club - but more luck than judgment in that, the timing of the deal on deadline day will tell you that). Palmer (Chelsea, great we are dealing with these guys) - LJ clearly never fancied him, rightly or wrongly (for my money he should have played more last year). Of course, the three examples above could be LJ signings, although I think it’s widely accepted now who has sign-off and negotiation on final targets. I may be way off the mark, but the fact I am even thinking these things now is an indication that the whole thing is askew and possibly has been for a while. If this is true, strap in everyone! Could be a bumpy couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, lenred said: I agree. And what makes you think that most managers with a track record wouldn’t agree either? Just looks from the outside that they did not cut the mustard in the selection process. But the choice still has to be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Galway Red said: I come away from the politics Forum because of your nonsense and constant winding of people up Until a brief appearance recently I left the politics forum years ago because it was infested by people with the same narrow and intolerant set of political opinions. I found better places to debate elsewhere. Nowhere is it written that posters have to abide by the party or mob line. Not my style. Say it as it is. If you don't like it ignore me. Why should I care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, Bat Fastard said: Just looks from the outside that they did not cut the mustard in the selection process. But the choice still has to be confirmed. Not ‘cutting the mustard’ and not agreeing to work within a budget (a very very handsome budget if what LJ had is anything to go by) and develop youth are two different things so which is it? You are just talking absolute crap - bending every argument to the nth degree to suit. With all due respect of course..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Don’t you have to be somewhere ? You are quite right, nearly my bed time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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