Kingswood Robin Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nugget said: Still reckon there’s a twist in the tale yet! Proper weird goings on, see what tomorrow brings I'm inclined to (hopefully) agree. If this is all we're getting. then it's just too crap to be true, even by our standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Ultimately, if Holden gets the job he'll get my full backing. I'll be very disappointed, but not at Holden. He'll have received his brief, and that will be to improve on this season and make a push towards promotion, and that is what he'll be judged on. Should he do it, then he's done better than anyone here would've imagined. If he doesn't, he'll deserve the sack, and real questions will need to be asked of Lansdown and Ashton. Unlike the last time Lansdown was put in this position, he will have had a legitimate proven option in Hughton, yet he would've chosen to stick to his guns and continue to adopt a slow and steady strategy under LJ that failed and set us back 1-2 years. Lansdown is not above criticism, regardless of how much of his own money he's poured into the club. He has had decades to make the club self-sufficient, and while we're making great strides, we're still at a point where we cannot afford to be competitive in this division. To ask for promotion without being able to afford it reduces his credibility, and ultimately if he continues to push for promotion while pinching pennies I think that he should consider selling up to someone that can actually put that vision in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, EnderMB said: Ultimately, if Holden gets the job he'll get my full backing. I'll be very disappointed, but not at Holden. He'll have received his brief, and that will be to improve on this season and make a push towards promotion, and that is what he'll be judged on. Should he do it, then he's done better than anyone here would've imagined. If he doesn't, he'll deserve the sack, and real questions will need to be asked of Lansdown and Ashton. Unlike the last time Lansdown was put in this position, he will have had a legitimate proven option in Hughton, yet he would've chosen to stick to his guns and continue to adopt a slow and steady strategy under LJ that failed and set us back 1-2 years. Lansdown is not above criticism, regardless of how much of his own money he's poured into the club. He has had decades to make the club self-sufficient, and while we're making great strides, we're still at a point where we cannot afford to be competitive in this division. To ask for promotion without being able to afford it reduces his credibility, and ultimately if he continues to push for promotion while pinching pennies I think that he should consider selling up to someone that can actually put that vision in place. Championship clubs are frequently selling, is the way of the world. Ask Brentford, or at times Nottingham Forest, Leeds to name 3 in recent times. Or Birmingham, Jesus have they been decimated last couple of seasons! Sell up? Careful what you wish for! Make club self-sufficent- at this level- you must be joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 So, five weeks after the powers that be at our football club state that they have recieved masses of interest in the head coach position from top drawer applicants from all over the globe and will appoint someone to take us to the next level, they offer the job to the assistant of the bloke that they have just rightly sacked. But wait... it gets better. He is taking the weekend to decide if he wants it!! **** me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 We’ve been lied to RIP Lansdown era. 2002-2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Championship clubs are frequently selling, is the way of the world. Ask Brentford, or at times Nottingham Forest, Leeds to name 3 in recent times. Or Birmingham, Jesus have they been decimated last couple of seasons! Sell up? Careful what you wish for! Make club self-sufficent- at this level- you must be joking! Im not sure i want an egotistical maniac as an owner tbh. I cannot trust Lansdown any longer. I dont feel like he has the best interests of the club at heart. Despite his financial security. There are to many bizarre decisions for me to know that he has the best interests of the club at heart. He should NOT be above criticism. Yes we can be alot worse off of course. We can be better off. Any moron with half a brain cell can see Holden is the wrong choice for one. I could be wrong. I doubt I am at this point though. Holden could have short term success. Again, i dont think so. But long term, we aint going nowhere under Lansdown. Good or bad. Id rather have somebody that wasnt so ego driven leading us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Lew-T said: It’s a big ask though. This is his record in a young managerial career so far... Oldham - P15, W3, D5, L7 City - P5, W2, D2, L2 W2,D2,L2 = 6. At City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I think the castigation of an owner, before an announcement, should stop. But boy their PR dept has been found wanting. Who decided and devised the idea of an, at times, unhelpful bunch of remarks to the press needs fair criticism. And that ultimately needs levelling at the Chairman for his handling of it... One straight tweet a week would have been sufficient... Keeping us informed , honestly, why it was taking so long and to please be patient. No need to give anything away. It's not rocket science. Instead you have a supporter base that is flinging quite vitriolic remarks especially to the Chairman's father. Cannot be nice for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Dean by all accounts has asked for the weekend to consider the job. be surprised if he says no. i wonder who will be his backroom team. Macca going looks like he will be getting 2 in. his assistant is going to be a huge appointment. he needs a really experienced person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratz260689 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 If it’s Ashley Williams then my heads gone, he was a liability on the pitch this season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 got a feeling you could be right with Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 What happens if he says no? Do we get back on the blower to CH or PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 yep. something does not seem right to me. the website has nothing about Jamie leaving or about Dean getting the job. Surely major news that would be all over the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, ChubStixx said: What happens if he says no? Do we get back on the blower to CH or PC? If he says no we’ve got big problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, daored said: If he says no we’ve got big problems We’ve got big problems if he says yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, havanatopia said: I think the castigation of an owner, before an announcement, should stop. But boy their PR dept has been found wanting. Who decided and devised the idea of an, at times, unhelpful bunch of remarks to the press needs fair criticism. And that ultimately needs levelling at the Chairman for his handling of it... One straight tweet a week would have been sufficient... Keeping us informed , honestly, why it was taking so long and to please be patient. No need to give anything away. It's not rocket science. Instead you have a supporter base that is flinging quite vitriolic remarks especially to the Chairman's father. Cannot be nice for him. I completely agree , the clubs handling of this has been amateurish. Right now I feel sorry for Dean, opportunity of his life managers position at a relatively big club leaked to the press with the final comment he wants time to think about it. Dean Holden deserves better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 if he reads social media he wont touch the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Robbored said: I doubt it Rob. They don’t broadcast information if it’s not on the clubs official Site. Well that’s not true They reported that we were in talks with Hughton which was not on your beloved official site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: if he reads social media he wont touch the job. Yeah. You don't really want to be taking the main gig at a championship club with negative credit from the off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 What's happening with Korey Smith too? Has he been left in Limbo? No announcement about him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: We’ve got big problems if he says yes! If he turns it down (which I don’t expect he will) who do we turn to on Monday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, daored said: If he turns it down (which I don’t expect he will) who do we turn to on Monday ? No idea, if it wasn’t so scary it would be funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: No idea, if it wasn’t so scary it would be funny People seem to think if Dean turns it down , we simply pick up the phone to Hughton and all is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 We are all taking MacGregors article as gospel and fact. While one has to think he does seem to have some inside info he could be wrong. The club been so tight on this saga. No where else has this been leaked from club, one has to think Monday is announcement day and I still retain a degree of hope DH will not be the HC. I am still struggling to get my head round the fact that after 5 of weeks interviews and looking at all applications the best was our No 2 under the failed LJ tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, daored said: If he turns it down (which I don’t expect he will) who do we turn to on Monday ? They’ll probably give it to Downsey I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 8, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I've finally managed to find something positive in this situation. Dean's wife used to present on ITV, so perhaps we may finally get a decent presenter on Robins TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlstreetrob Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I think the club are holding something back. Holden may well become Head Coach, but with Trollope as Assistant Manager and Hughton as Manager; ever the optimist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 He's just going to be a babysitter until Eddie Howe has had a rest. Poor results and fans unrest will see him gone by Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, harvey54 said: He's just going to be a babysitter until Eddie Howe has had a rest. Poor results and fans unrest will see him gone by Christmas. There will be no fans unrest, no one will be in stadiums to watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: We are all taking MacGregors article as gospel and fact. While one has to think he does seem to have some inside info he could be wrong. The club been so tight on this saga. No where else has this been leaked from club, one has to think Monday is announcement day and I still retain a degree of hope DH will not be the HC. I am still struggling to get my head round the fact that after 5 of weeks interviews and looking at all applications the best was our No 2 under the failed LJ tenure. There has to be something else going on at the club, DH could of been called in on Friday afternoon and informed that the club has made a decision and out of respect told him he was not successful. After all five weeks have now gone by and if he was successful he would of been told before he went on holiday. I hope I’m correct and a big surprise still awaits us Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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