Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Allardyce as DoF, definitely worse ideas- Holden played under him at Bolton IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Why the charade around Hughton, Gerrard and co then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, exAtyeoMax said: Why the charade around Hughton, Gerrard and co then? Because they’ve a clear idea of the type of person they want...... not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 If this were even true, why they **** wouldn't we simply take him as the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Ashton to Ashton, funk to funky We know Deano H is a flunky Hung out and left to die And we'll be hitting an all time low.... Holden’s a star man, waiting in the sky He’d like to come and meet us But the roof is far too high He’s a starman, waiting in the sky He's told us not to announce it OTIB thinks it's all a lie He told me: Let OTIB lose it Let Bristol Post use it Let all the children boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 On paper it makes a lot of sense. Ashton & Holden both know Allardyce well & if the club are completely bought in to the concept of developing DH as a long term Head Coach it may be the missing component. imagine this would suit Big Sam too at his stage but it could be more consultant than DoF I wouldn’t rule this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, ray savino said: The Cortinas. Nah they were the escorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 hours ago, ray savino said: The Cortinas. Very Popular back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: 3 points. Top Bristol band back in the day. Shouldn't they have been called The Cortinals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, supercidered said: Shouldn't they have been called The Cortinals ? They were, but it’s spelt “The Cortinas” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, TedsHeadIs Red said: They were, but it’s spelt “The Cortinas” Ooohh I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Tim S said: But its not going to happen so no point discussing it! Tim! You have just undermined the whole ethos of OTIB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 if it is Dean then he definitely needs experience around him. i think thats where lee went wrong. should have got someone who has been there and done it. not mates like Jamie mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Red Alert said: On paper it makes a lot of sense. Ashton & Holden both know Allardyce well & if the club are completely bought in to the concept of developing DH as a long term Head Coach it may be the missing component. imagine this would suit Big Sam too at his stage but it could be more consultant than DoF I wouldn’t rule this out. If this is true I could see him more in Mentor / consultant role than DoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 hours ago, italian dave said: The only thing on the Holden thread, unless it’s pages back, is someone making a joke about Sam A’s size. Talk about Chinese whispers! Purple Monkey Dishwasher, is what I heard.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Tim S said: Well flattered! But I retired from DJing a couple of years ago - its not as fun as it used to be! The Big Sam rumour was something I was told about a few weeks ago as the club have had Dean Holden in mind for the head coach role all along and were looking at potentially having various options available to work alongside him in some capacity Yep - good times in Syndicate a few years ago, SWX isn't the same! Regarding looking at options to work alongside him - would that have included someone like Hughton working as a DoF? Might also explain the random links to people like Cristoph Daum, who at 66 might be a little too old for full time management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 This is some sort of nightmare alternative reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, reddogkev said: This is some sort of nightmare alternative reality. Allardyce has a reputation for being a bit of a dinosaur, but he has great pedigree and plenty of experience. He also is much more progressive than people give him credit for - in the early 2000s at Bolton when they were doing well, he introduced lots of modern training methods he picked up from US American Football sports science departments. He was really ahead of his time in that area. I think with his experience, network and pedigree he'd be a very good person to have around as DoF. Also, as @Davefevs mentioned, he may already know Holden from his time at Bolton. I'd feel a lot more confident in Holden's appointment if he had someone of Allardyce's experience around to help out. The relative inexperience of the coaching team it looks like we're getting (Williams/McAllister) is also a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Allardyce has a reputation for being a bit of a dinosaur, but he has great pedigree and plenty of experience. He also is much more progressive than people give him credit for - in the early 2000s at Bolton when they were doing well, he introduced lots of modern training methods he picked up from US American Football sports science departments. He was really ahead of his time in that area. I think with his experience, network and pedigree he'd be a very good person to have around as DoF. Also, as @Davefevs mentioned, he may already know Holden from his time at Bolton. I'd feel a lot more confident in Holden's appointment if he had someone of Allardyce's experience around to help out. The relative inexperience of the coaching team it looks like we're getting (Williams/McAllister) is also a worry. Sorry PF, interesting comments and good knowledge, but I would be aghast if SA was appointed in any role at City. With his questionable exit as England manager and the accusations levelled against him, I would also be gobsmacked if SL wanted him involved in the club. I don't believe for one minute that Holden is going to be the next city manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, reddogkev said: Sorry PF, interesting comments and good knowledge, but I would be aghast if SA was appointed in any role at City. With his questionable exit as England manager and the accusations levelled against him, I would also be gobsmacked if SL wanted him involved in the club. I don't believe for one minute that Holden is going to be the next city manager. That's true and a very valid point. Arguably Ashton has a dodgy past of his own albeit not quite the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just seen a crane arrive at Ashton Gate, this could be happening. #ontheroof #bigsam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 You have more chance of watching me have my piles removed in the AG centre circle at half time than seeing Big Sam appointed DoF ......... IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 With Jamie Mac apparently having been given the Spanish archer does this mean Big Sam with DH as assistant.............................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Allardyce has a reputation for being a bit of a dinosaur, but he has great pedigree and plenty of experience. He also is much more progressive than people give him credit for - in the early 2000s at Bolton when they were doing well, he introduced lots of modern training methods he picked up from US American Football sports science departments. He was really ahead of his time in that area. I think with his experience, network and pedigree he'd be a very good person to have around as DoF. Also, as @Davefevs mentioned, he may already know Holden from his time at Bolton. I'd feel a lot more confident in Holden's appointment if he had someone of Allardyce's experience around to help out. The relative inexperience of the coaching team it looks like we're getting (Williams/McAllister) is also a worry. I did indeed. One of the things I look at with all (prospective) managers is who they played under and who they coached under. There are some good pointers to whether they’ve had good tutelage or not...obviously depends on whether they’ve taken it onboard. Last night I compared Holden and Williams careers to see if paths had crossed. They hadn’t but when Holden was at Oldham, Williams was at Stockport....that was as close as it got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaissance Williams Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 20 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Ashton to Ashton, funk to funky We know Deano H is a flunky Hung out and left to die And we'll be hitting an all time low.... Ashton Gate is blue And there’s nothing we can do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 One scenario ; Palace move out Hodgson. We annonce the same as DOF . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidoldfart Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 07/08/2020 at 00:56, Mendip City said: Because they’ve a clear idea of the type of person they want...... not! Or maybe you have been sucked into Press and social media speculation...BCFC did not even request to speak to Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, davidoldfart said: Or maybe you have been sucked into Press and social media speculation...BCFC did not even request to speak to Gerrard Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatn Over Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: One scenario ; Palace move out Hodgson. We annonce the same as DOF . Or another scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 You shouldn’t need a mentor to help a coach in the first place. In the real world you appoint somebody who already has the credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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