Mr Yoda Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Just a thought but maybe Williams will be the main man as a player coach with Holden as his #2. Could explain Macca going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggyRed Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 If Williams is involved at all I will be even more disillusioned than I am now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yoda Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, ReggyRed said: If Williams is involved at all I will be even more disillusioned than I am now. Pretty sure he will be in some way, crazy times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Holden with someone of serious pedigree as an assistant manager or DoF would be much more palatable. I actually really liked the idea of Big Sam as DoF. I’d feel much more faith in this appointment if they bring in some serious pedigree and experience to help him out. If he’s left to fend for himself with Ashley Williams and some other inexperienced coaches then it could be a tough old season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modestant Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said: Just a thought but maybe Williams will be the main man as a player coach with Holden as his #2. Could explain Macca going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, ReggyRed said: If Williams is involved at all I will be even more disillusioned than I am now. Why? Premier league experience, international, the player Holden turned to when first appointed caretaker coach to help with the coaching. You must have sound reasons for posting this, so please tell what is wrong with the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonG666 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 If it's Holden he needs a number 2, but if it's Williams then City have some imaginative people behind the scenes coming up with that pairing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggyRed Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: Why? Premier league experience, international, the player Holden turned to when first appointed caretaker coach to help with the coaching. You must have sound reasons for posting this, so please tell what is wrong with the idea? An inexperienced manager with an inexperienced assistant. I’m sure that will go very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 i am in favour of williams being involved with the coaching. my problem is Dean is far to inexperienced to be the manager. The championship is one tough division its not a place to learn your trade. if it is Dean give him a top notch no 2. I believe Dean should learn his trade in league one and two. surely Mark Ashton knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 We really need someone experienced to support Holden. Williams recently hit someone in a game he shouldn't play for us again let alone be a coach. From what I hear from a mate at Everton about him this would be a really bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I was wondering how on earth they could get us fans onside for this appointment. The only way I could think of was to appoint an experienced number 2 that made sense to us as a club. Someone with prior history. Then it struck me. Joe Jordan. Hes still local. Getting on a bit but I'm sure he still loves it. I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said: Just a thought but maybe Williams will be the main man as a player coach with Holden as his #2. Could explain Macca going? What part of Holden being offered the role of “head coach” do you not get? If Williams stays it would either be as a player, or with some coaching position as well. He isn’t in the running to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 57 minutes ago, AshtonG666 said: If it's Holden he needs a number 2, but if it's Williams then City have some imaginative people behind the scenes coming up with that pairing I think 'the people' on here are the ones with the imagination. Very vivid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: What part of Holden being offered the role of “head coach” do you not get? If Williams stays it would either be as a player, or with some coaching position as well. He isn’t in the running to take over. Frankly, I do not want to see Williams involved with our club ever again. Played for a contract, was never the same after he got it and badly let us down on the pitch on at least 2 occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Galley is our king said: Why? Premier league experience, international, the player Holden turned to when first appointed caretaker coach to help with the coaching. You must have sound reasons for posting this, so please tell what is wrong with the idea? Because now was the time to appoint a coaching team with a track record, and coaching staff who had experience Not someone because “they have premier league experience” Why does Lansdown and co continuously wish to appoint novices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, MATT BCFC said: We really need someone experienced to support Holden. Williams recently hit someone in a game he shouldn't play for us again let alone be a coach. From what I hear from a mate at Everton about him this would be a really bad decision. And from what I hear, he’s been excellent at Failand, with the younger element of the 1st team squad and the Academy too. The red cards were shit. But if Deano trusts him and I’m sure he wants someone from outside the SL / ex-City “circle of trust” then it makes sense. Before Macca was sacked I wondered if getting Williams in was to ensure he had someone of his choosing....obviously not such an issue now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Hampshire reds said: i am in favour of williams being involved with the coaching. my problem is Dean is far to inexperienced to be the manager. The championship is one tough division its not a place to learn your trade. if it is Dean give him a top notch no 2. I believe Dean should learn his trade in league one and two. surely Mark Ashton knows this. Maybe we’ll send DH out on loan . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said: Frankly, I do not want to see Williams involved with our club ever again. Played for a contract, was never the same after he got it and badly let us down on the pitch on at least 2 occasions. And he pitched in with numerous last second blocks and goal saving headers! I agree the sendings off were poor but Baker has also got that in him. Give the poor bugger a chance for crying out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr Yoda said: Just a thought but maybe Williams will be the main man as a player coach with Holden as his #2. Could explain Macca going? Surely Holden would be number 1 with Williams number 2, if that were to happen. Williams would make Holden look experienced in management..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, ReggyRed said: An inexperienced manager with an inexperienced assistant. I’m sure that will go very well I think it comes down to the question of whether there is a plan for one assistant or two. I'm not sold on Holden taking over as manager but, if he does, I'd have no problem with a team of one promising coach who is liked by the squad and one experienced coach being the two assistants. I'd agree Holden and Williams alone would lack experience and be a gamble, to say the least. 9 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: And he pitched in with numerous last second blocks and goal saving headers! I agree the sendings off were poor but Baker has also got that in him. Give the poor bugger a chance for crying out loud! I think the thing for me with the red cards and rushes of blood to the head is how well he can reflect on those things and pass on learning. I think it can sometimes be useful to have someone in the management team with experience of making silly mistakes, as long as they understand what triggered those mistakes and can use that to advise others on how to avoid doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think it comes down to the question of whether there is a plan for one assistant or two. I'm not sold on Holden taking over as manager but, if he does, I'd have no problem with a team of one promising coach who is liked by the squad and one experienced coach being the two assistants. I'd agree Holden and Williams alone would lack experience and be a gamble, to say the least. I think the thing for me with the red cards and rushes of blood to the head is how well he can reflect on those things and pass on learning. I think it can sometimes be useful to have someone in the management team with experience of making silly mistakes, as long as they understand what triggered those mistakes and can use that to advise others on how to avoid doing the same. Or maybe just a case of once an idiot, always an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Brent Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Holden with someone of serious pedigree as an assistant manager or DoF would be much more palatable. I actually really liked the idea of Big Sam as DoF. I’d feel much more faith in this appointment if they bring in some serious pedigree and experience to help him out. If he’s left to fend for himself with Ashley Williams and some other inexperienced coaches then it could be a tough old season. I don’t get the idea of bringing in someone experienced as DoF. Surely just make them the Head Coach, with Dean Holden helping them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Maybe we’ll send DH out on loan . Brilliant Major, how many players do we sign thinking they're for our first team who end up playing years on loan for other clubs before making our first team if thry do at all. Maybe this is a revolutionary new step, signing potential managers to be our manager but then sending them out on loan to manage at lower division level. That way we can have about twenty managers and just recall the one who is showing the most promise at any particular moment to replace the current manager who then goes out on loan to regain confidence after some poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Williams doesn't have the coaching badges so wouldn't be allowed as permanent manager. I'd give him a job with the academy but not with the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: Williams doesn't have the coaching badges so wouldn't be allowed as permanent manager. I'd give him a job with the academy but not with the first team. Not strictly true, he could take over and he'd be given 12 months to get his badges, I think that's what Southgate did at Middlesborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I actually was thinking Luke Willliams here now MK not Ashley ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: Frankly, I do not want to see Williams involved with our club ever again. Played for a contract, was never the same after he got it and badly let us down on the pitch on at least 2 occasions. Nonsense. He had one or two bad days, but more often he’s been a rock in our defence. Even our best players have probably let us down on at least two occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: And from what I hear, he’s been excellent at Failand, with the younger element of the 1st team squad and the Academy too. The red cards were shit. But if Deano trusts him and I’m sure he wants someone from outside the SL / ex-City “circle of trust” then it makes sense. Before Macca was sacked I wondered if getting Williams in was to ensure he had someone of his choosing....obviously not such an issue now!! I'm pretty sure i've read somewhere that Williams doesn't have any coaching qualifications yet (was looking to do them). I don't think you're allowed to manage/coach without them. Certainly i've had to do my level 1, and 2 in order to coach junior football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, David Brent said: I don’t get the idea of bringing in someone experienced as DoF. Surely just make them the Head Coach, with Dean Holden helping them out Assistant to the head coach you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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