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Time to sell up and move on Mr Lansdown


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29 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

TBH it isn't so much his ownership, which I think, on balance, has been beneficial to City.

It's his intervening in the running of the club. He should fly back to Guernsey and take Jon with him. Both can enjoy the billionaire lifestyle and follow their football club from afar. Like fans do.

A board who know the game and are willing to stand up to Ashton's bullshit should be appointed to run the club.  If they know the game, they could and should quickly dismantle the unwieldy "too many cooks" management structure we have here.

Of course, SL will still need to be consulted. But a board with a bit of nous - not just SL's placemen - needs to run a club.

We literally will never get anywhere with the current set up. 

I can see us before too long having the nicest stadium in L1 and wondering how the f- we ended up there again. 

Be it 2 years or 5 years this feels like the start of a downward spiral. Inevitably the date people will look back on when we fail will be August 10. 

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Some of the stuff being posted is priceless. OTIB seems to have been invaded by Trump clones and followers as they are incapable of accepting criticism or an opposing view. Where are the proposals for who takes over from Lansdown if he walks away? Given that just about no one on here has any confidence in the EFL system which appraises fit and proper persons to run football clubs, that seems more of a gamble than appointing DH as Head Coach. We should apparently also have a board that knows football, a lot of those about are there? The board doesn't need to know about football, that's what head coaches and managers are for. 

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2 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Why's that ridiculous.? I'm probably bang on with the median age of this forum and their prime reason for all this hysteria.

Hmmm.

You have no idea of the median age of this forum if that makes any difference whatsoever anyway you're just on a wind up and its not helpful.

Lansdown couldn't give two shits what people think on this forum but people who receive insults from anonymous posters probably do care, so calling people names is very immature to be honest.

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4 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Show me the evidence where fam owned clubs in the championship are successful?

Define successful. Personally I'd rather be a League 1 club that I feel connected to than a Championship club that I feel ignored by.

Not least because being a billionaire is immoral. 

Appreciate it's an unpopular view but there we go.

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5 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said:

Uh. Yep. I do!

Why else would be so what he does? He’s not a philanthropist is he!

In the case of Bristol Sport yes he is

He's lost millions on City and probably a good amount on the Rugby too. Its only in the last couple of seasons that City have moved into some sort of profitability. 

The only way he's ever going to make money on City is by getting to the Premier League. Which makes the forthcoming appointment of Dean Holden all the more unfathomable.... 

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6 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Show me the evidence where fam owned clubs in the championship are successful?

I can't personally see a fan owned club ever being competitive at the higher end of the English pyramid to be fair and there would still be unhappy fans anyway plus probably people making a few bob out of it all.

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I think Steve Lansdown wants the best for the club. I am absolutely sure of it. It is just that he is clueless at picking managers. We would be mad to want him to leave the club. There are an awful lot of terrible owners.We all know who they are.

He will appoint a good manager one day. But not today - obviously !

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4 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Show me the evidence where fam owned clubs in the championship are successful?

Depends on your idea of success. If your idea of success is top flight football then a fan owned club would be a bad idea. However if your idea of success is that AG is a fun place to be, with great value tickets, the fan owned would be a bad idea.

For me, the fans never seemed so toxic and entitled. But when you're paying through the nose based on the promises of Ashton and SL to get you PL football, damn right you'd be annoyed at this appointment. For me the final straw was the massive price hike for disabled fans in 2018, and I've not been back. The club is now very much run as a business, when it should be run as a community asset. 

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4 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Define successful. Personally I'd rather be a League 1 club that I feel connected to than a Championship club that I feel ignored by.

Not least because being a billionaire is immoral. 

Appreciate it's an unpopular view but there we go.

Agree I am disillusioned by the club right now, but there is no club that is fan owned that has been successful. I would rather be competing in the championship with a man who has given so much to the club and is not bankrupting us than a club that is in league 1 that is fan owned... I appreciate o may be on my own here

Just now, REDOXO said:

Calm down ladies. 
 

Way to much vitriol!
 

The board have made a decision. I’ll Deal with it. 
 


 

 

Yeah same here ffs...line in the sand it’s deano, now we start planning for next year

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59 minutes ago, vicky10 said:

Oh dear ...what a bunch .Ashton Gate will be better off without all you losers ..The guy has built great facilities and the basis of a good team and this is what we hear from you lot.

Cloud cuckooland ....or just maybe you would want Chinese for Far East betting consortia to take over ....we would probably be out of business in 12 months.

 

where are all these newbies coming from...................................mmmmmm  Ashton good at one thing

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7 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

Hmmm.

You have no idea of the median age of this forum if that makes any difference whatsoever anyway you're just on a wind up and its not helpful.

Lansdown couldn't give two shits what people think on this forum but people who receive insults from anonymous posters probably do care, so calling people names is very immature to be honest.

Oh don't play the victim card. Our society is way too sensitive nowadays but that's another issue.

When did middle-aged get added to the 'hate speech' political correctness pile? You say I'm a sheep 😅

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I think you only have to look at clubs like Hull, Charlton etc to know that we are fairly lucky to have Lansdown. Nothing is perfect but I also don’t see any other rich people rushing into have a stake etc or takeover.

This appointment however I think is a shambles. Might as well as kept LJ who at least has 4 years championship experience as a manager. We’ve swapped that for someone with none. A real gamble and one that also gets the fans backs up after saying we would get someone proven to get us to the next level. 

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18 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Bigger club you were implying, you've just implied it again. Why are we? We've had one spell in the top flight pre Premiership and a JPT.

You then include Wigan in your list of clubs that have achieved. Are you serious? Did you see how it how that brief spell in the top flight has worked out for them?

You're just sour you didn't get Chris Hughton now your proverbial toys are out the pram.

 

Whatever Ross, you just make up what you want to read.

 

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40 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said:

I would if I had it. Thing is look at what he now owns. Freeholds as far as the eye can see.......

As I said elsewhere BS3 is simply a cash cow for Lansdown. And his hands and his hands alone are on the udders.

When one has mastitis he tugs in another. Football sadly isn’t his main focus. Making more money is all he cares about.

Not uncommon I know but I for one hate it, hate what it stands for and hate what he and his ilk have done not just to our club but football in general.

*******.

From one Al to another spot on mate, :clap:

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Too many people here too quick to write off Holden and frankly embarrassing themselves with their comments about SL. Although Holden wouldn't have been my first choice I will support the club regardless. I'll defer my judgement on Holden until we see how the season pans out. There are never any guarantees in football and from what I've seen money  is usually what gets teams promoted - with very few exceptions. One thing that SL has in abundance is money and if he backs his man (Holden), I can see us getting over the line in the not too distant future. A lot of people within these threads could end up with very eggy faces!!😀

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1 hour ago, Atticus said:

I agree, its not so much about how much money we have, or where we are in the league. It would be nice to go back to the days when we appointed MANAGERS, that were allowed to manage the ******* football club. Something I dont ever see happening again under Lansdown. 

 

I think you will find that nowhere in the top flights of football do managers - manage clubs .

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15 minutes ago, fgrsimon said:

In the case of Bristol Sport yes he is

He's lost millions on City and probably a good amount on the Rugby too. Its only in the last couple of seasons that City have moved into some sort of profitability. 

The only way he's ever going to make money on City is by getting to the Premier League. Which makes the forthcoming appointment of Dean Holden all the more unfathomable.... 

Or when he sells. And cashes in his chips.

Or gets resi consents on Ashton Vale. 

He had an exit planned before he even thought of calling it Pula. 😃

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Looking at the array of dodgy owners across the League, it sounds eminently sensible to throw away stability and investment as a knee jerk reaction to this appointment. The toys are really flying out of the prams tonight 

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39 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

Yep absolutely.

He or his son will get back every penny of his investment due to real estate transactions that will be smoocthed through the planning processes due to the Bristol City connection.

He could have gone balls out on a legal challenge at Ashton Vale but a nice little earner to be had there and of course the site assembly around AG will reap huge dividends

I'm not totally against him but equally I don't buy that hes a big fan, and some kind of benefactor when he patently is nothing of the sort.

Interesting.

Real estate transactions? Wondering which these could be- sounds ominous if it's about our club property!

Wasn't aware of that bit, thought it dragged on a while. Don't remember it that well overall.

More positives than negatives I think, on the fence. He's spent a lot but as you say his expenditure can be recouped through varied means.

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20 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said:

Or when he sells. And cashes in his chips.

Or gets resi consents on Ashton Vale. 

He had an exit planned before he even thought of calling it Pula. 😃

Don't forget possible rental returns as an interim revenue stream.

Hell he could do that now in theory couldn't he? Talking significant rent included within breakeven/small profit.

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This thread is truly embarrassing, especially when quite a few clubs are actually achieving success by appointing from within (think of this year's play off managers - two internal appointments, another with only England youth managerial experience, and a fourth who had been an internal appointment at his previous club), and others are floundering with managers that have achieved success in the past but may now be on the way down. Where did Bournemouth get Eddie Howe from, and haven't they just appointed his assistant?

Anyone would think there is magic formula for finding a successful manager. Yes Leeds got Bielsa, but look at the chaos before then. This may be heresy to say, but Hughton might not have got us up, indeed he might have changed things to such a degree that much of the good work over recent years could have been thrown out.

 

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SL is an egotistical despot. He isn’t going anywhere any time soon. But when he does, I will crack open the champagne and until that time or the time he has epiphany and sees the error of his ways, I’m not putting another penny into the club.

I would be in favour of fan ownership with a directly elected president. 

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1 hour ago, Red Alert said:

Funded by who?

Sadly there is no queue of wealthy benefactors lining up to take on a loss making regional football club that has never player in the prem, if they are I wouldn't trust them as they'll likely to quickly load us up with debt to buy us & then asset strip if we don't make it up.

I don't agree with the way the club is being run at the moment but in the current commercial environment its pure fantasy to think there someone else prepared to fund us. More chance of winning the lottery.

The reality is if this appointment plays out how we anticipate - quite a few fans will no doubt lose interest.

People are petrified of change and are happy to maintain status quo, for every bad buyer there's usually a good one

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55 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Define successful. Personally I'd rather be a League 1 club that I feel connected to than a Championship club that I feel ignored by.

Not least because being a billionaire is immoral. 

Appreciate it's an unpopular view but there we go.

Dont agree with the billionaire side - that’s a very different discussion - but otherwise very much spot on. 

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1 hour ago, Bullbag said:

Well you just continue to be one of Lansdown's sheep then.

So you can lap all the bull**** that comes out of his mouth.

Carry on thinking he's the messiah, which he most certainly is not, and carry on accepting mediocrity and false statement and lies.

Supporters like you are why this club never does bloody anything, ever. Boring boring boring.

No ambition, too cosy and i'm ****ing sick of it.

Seeing same sized and smaller clubs passing us by for the last how many years while we stagnate year after year after year.

Even if we were to appoint a top coach Lansdown would likely poke his nose in again and mess evrything up.

Enough is enough.

Love that passion mate  - and you make lots of good points. Looking back to when we very nearly made it to the premier league (2008 as if we could forget!) at the end of that same season:

- Leicester City were relegated to league one

- Southampton finished 20th in the championship

- Burnley finished 13th in the championship

- Norwich City finished 17th in the championship

- Leeds were in league one

- Brighton were in league one

- Brentford were in league two etc ...

... anyone who thinks we haven’t stagnated over the last decade or so should really think again ... I could be way wide of the mark, but since Coppell buggered off our club has occasionally shot a fearful glance upwards and has shown zero ambition to getting there and zero commitment to really kicking on; just look at the managerial appointments since Coppell ... 

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1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Some of the stuff being posted is priceless. OTIB seems to have been invaded by Trump clones and followers as they are incapable of accepting criticism or an opposing view. Where are the proposals for who takes over from Lansdown if he walks away? Given that just about no one on here has any confidence in the EFL system which appraises fit and proper persons to run football clubs, that seems more of a gamble than appointing DH as Head Coach. We should apparently also have a board that knows football, a lot of those about are there? The board doesn't need to know about football, that's what head coaches and managers are for.

 

 

 

why don’t we get the best ones we can afford then and leave them to get on with it??

nope . Because they won’t afford lansdown the daily updates and seek his counsel every 5 minutes. 
 

our owner is sadly a control freak that needs a yes man. That’s why coppell walked away and why we have had tinnion, Millen, Johnson jnr and now this complete farce.

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4 hours ago, sinenomine said:

You surely don't think SL is making money out of the club, or ever will for that matter?

No, its not about the money, B C F C is a train set for his boy. Meanwhile, SL is enjoying building the Rugby, the basketball, and any other label under that bloody Bristol Sport crap.  MA is just the puppet for him whose job it is to shoot the plastic bullets.  

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