GTFABM Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, RumRed said: 44 years for me with very few bright spells. I can see why LJ had to go but I think the board must have thought they could have moved up a level manager wise with no issues. I really don’t understand why you’d sack someone (and still pay their wages) who kept us mid table to spend 5 weeks appointing their assistant? Someone must be able to explain this to me. I think the board thought that aswell. Then realised during the process that for whatever reason that doesn’t fit our structure so change plan. Even i can see taking 5 weeks to come to that conclusion seems a but much. Just telling myself there must be unseen reasons so i can stay sane and hold out hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, GTFABM said: I think the board thought that aswell. Then realised during the process that for whatever reason that doesn’t fit our structure so change plan. Even i can see taking 5 weeks to come to that conclusion seems a but much. Just telling myself there must be unseen reasons so i can stay sane and hold out hope Hopefully it will all turn out ok in the wash. I have nothing against those appointed at all, it’s just the shambolic way the club goes about things. I’ve resigned from jobs before because I see the way other staff have been treated and also turned down jobs I’ve been offered once I’ve spoken to people that work at the firm (who I knew). I’m just concerned we might become a pariah club, and nothing about this recruitment process suggests otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GTFABM Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, RumRed said: Hopefully it will all turn out ok in the wash. I have nothing against those appointed at all, it’s just the shambolic way the club goes about things. I’ve resigned from jobs before because I see the way other staff have been treated and also turned down jobs I’ve been offered once I’ve spoken to people that work at the firm (who I knew). I’m just concerned we might become a pariah club, and nothing about this recruitment process suggests otherwise. Yeah no matter how you look at it the club doesn’t come out looking very good. Got rebuilding to do all over the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, GTFABM said: I think the board thought that aswell. Then realised during the process that for whatever reason that doesn’t fit our structure so change plan. Even i can see taking 5 weeks to come to that conclusion seems a but much. Just telling myself there must be unseen reasons so i can stay sane and hold out hope In which case they could explain those reasons perfectly well without breaking any confidences. I won't hold my breath though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: In which case they could explain those reasons perfectly well without breaking any confidences. I won't hold my breath though. Just out of interest what would they say that would be acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ashton resembles a modern day Thomas Cromwell, Chief Minister to King Henry VIII. Drunk on power, Cromwell made the brave decision to recruit Anne of Cleves for the role of Mrs VIII Mark 4. Six months later Henry annulled the marriage and executed Cromwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Curr Avon said: Ashton resembles a modern day Thomas Cromwell, Chief Minister to King Henry VII. Drunk on power, Cromwell made the brave decision to recruit Anne of Cleves for the role of Mrs VII Mark 4. Six months later Henry annulled the marriage and executed Cromwell. Absolutely agree...but it was Henry VIII (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Absolutely agree...but it was Henry VIII (!) Thanks. Not enough Is. Just corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Curr Avon said: Thanks. Not enough Is. Just corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Thanks. Not enough Is. Just corrected. You haven't got a fat king clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, GTFABM said: Just out of interest what would they say that would be acceptable? Um, the truth? I have no preconceived notion as to what the reasons for any change of tack would be. Though Ashton said nothing to suggest they had changed tack at all. But they would have to reconcile their decision with Steve's claims in his interview and explain what changed to lead to experienced people being rejected in favour of a novice. I'm afraid waffle about Dean having a clear vision (so nobody else did?) doesn't amount to an explanation. Though if it is clear presumably it will be explained to us as well - unless "I want to play attacking football" is all there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Lets be honest Jon plays Chairman whilst Ashton does it all Hes merely the 'slick' Lansdowns gofer earning a very tidy sum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said: I wouldn’t minded DH if the club were honest from the start. Slightly disappointed of course but SL said different. No money going to the club from me! People are not allowed to change their minds? Or reassess their strategy in a very developing situation that affects football greatly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, Der no.2 said: I wonder what Chris Hughton actually thought after being interviewed by Ashton? Bellus endus I'd think...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Robert the bruce said: I used to hate it when one or two on here used to refer to Lansdown as "Clownsdowne"..... How apt that unfortunately is. Watching City since 1971.... Time for an epic break,,,not a dime of my money going to the club.... And as for Mark Ashton piss off is too polite by far. Robert, does anyone know his address as want to send him a turd........sure he could polish that !!!! Bloody Timeshare Salesman, found out at Watford and slithered under a rock here. Well played Lansdown, bet Hargreaves did the hiring at HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: People are not allowed to change their minds? Or reassess their strategy in a very developing situation that affects football greatly? That's bollo... If it were about the Yankee Dollar they'd not have been firing Lee with a boatload of compy to pay... The status quo would have been order of the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Make no mistake Holden is under incredible pressure to make a good start. Any other manager would have been afforded a settling in period and time to build his squad, holden will have none of this time. Ashton is a liar and scumbag who shows absolutely zero compassion for the supporters of this club. Its time to stop giving them so much of my money. Exactly, not a good word to say about him from Watford fans. He is like a cancer in our club and will bleed us dry, he lies through his teeth, one day in the future he will get his come uppance but I am afraid he will take us down with his horrible greedy little mitts wringing all the good done at the club. Lansdown has fallen for his Timeshare Salesman spiel. No more spending for me. Wanted my little grandson to be a mascot in a couple of years but no longer. Us in the Prem....more chance for Harrogate !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Southport Red said: So did Hughton, that was the problem. Lot of inexactitudes with Ashton not least this evening. He fell into a lot of traps. He even said Holden has the final say on transfers. And what was even more telling was the fella from England.. sort of the number 3, already forgotten their names, when interviewed... He said I only heard about the interest 3 or 4 days ago... Did anybody pick up on that having listened to Ashton? Funny that don't you think? Geoff probed Ashton several times and each time Ashton said it's been an exhaustive search but Holden was our number one choice from the off. Bizarre then that these two extra assistants only heard of the interest 3 or 4 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der no.2 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 This whole recruitment process (i use that term lightly) has only gone on to highlight the weaknesses in the club’s management structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I did wonder whether some Ashton Out bed sheets would turn up tonight. The interview with GT earlier just highlighted what a charlatan he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 This club will never progress and attract a decent manager with this sneaky guy running the show, he’s bad news for Bristol City. Good talker and front man but cant ever see a manager with his own ideas wanting to work under him. We will only get lower league managers or promote from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzler Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Mark Ashton is the sort of bloke who’ll be asking SL for a pay rise tomorrow as he’s just saved £300kpa on the Head Coaches salary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Outstanding humans? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkInChance Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Curr Avon said: Ashton resembles a modern day Thomas Cromwell, Chief Minister to King Henry VIII. Drunk on power, Cromwell made the brave decision to recruit Anne of Cleves for the role of Mrs VIII Mark 4. Six months later Henry annulled the marriage and executed Cromwell. We can only hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Slippery slimy bastard. I had to stop listening after 30 seconds. Absolutely detest the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Strong humans? WT actual F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou2BS7 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I have never in my life heard of a managerial appointment because down to them being a good ‘human’ this is a complete and utter **** up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Those interviews are cringe. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Reading the comments on here this evening it would appear that the arabs have finally realised that they have enough sand, and Mr Ashton can go and do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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