Cov 77 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nibor said: Good luck to him. No blame for his appointment should fall on him, of course he will take the opportunity and I hope it goes brilliantly. If it doesn't, the blame should squarely fall on the king of spin and the owner. Absolutely peed off with the ongoings of the last few weeks , the spin that having interviewed everyone bar Klopp and Guardiola , Holden was obviously by far the outstanding candidate is just taking the piss BUT having seen the interviews he’s done I feel there may be something there , not at all naive , been around too long, but there’s a gritty determination and belief and he has some decent influences he must have learnt from , willing to give him a chance , but the next few weeks will be important, can we retain at least one of the two so called on their way out and that we as he said bring a few in . Also wonder if the two England youth guys could mean a couple of top loans that were connected to their England set ups . Anyway will give him a chance as it’s done , and however peed off I am still want us to do well , by the end definitely wanted Johnson out big time , terrible football , no plan , and frankly didn’t like the guy, so prove us all wrong Dean if you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Comes across as a straightforward bloke, I hope you does well BUT I doubt he will take us forward. Its like a broken record, but we all knew we needed someone who had been there and done it, now we have a rookie learning his trade - very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 While I disagree with the appointment and am flabbergasted at the bullshit we're supposed to accept from a bloke I definitely wouldn't buy a car off, Dean comes across as honest and has made no promises he is unable to keep. The appointment of 2 experienced men to work with him is sensible. Now he is our head coach, I will back him 100%, Ashton on the other hand can do one, if he told me orange was orange i wouldn't believe him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Love his enthusiasm. Wasn't my first choice but he will get my full support and he's his own man so he's got his own ideas for which I'm excited about. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baba Yaga Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 As expected didn't learn a great deal from that interview. He sounded quite honest and direct which i like. Hopefully on the pitch he delivers the style he says he wants to play. Here's hoping he can prove people wrong, trying to be positive if he makes a few tweaks and gets the players in a consistent system then why can't they improve on last year in performance and results? It is a fantastic opportunity for him and let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Echo what has been said - no problem with Holden and fair enough I wasn’t in the interviews so don’t know the full details - but I just can’t imagine, of all the options out there, he was the outstanding candidate. Not for one minute. If the process was that rigorous, well I seriously doubt the process. If Holden is such an unearthed diamond, why did MA and SL not realise this before, he’s been here for years? I still don’t know if this is an SL overlord appointment or MA has sold Holden to SL....I’d love to know. If it’s SL he’s still not learning from his mistakes. If it’s MA, his ego, like SL, is getting the better of him. This appointment smacks of an arrogant need to ‘forge a new path’, ‘be ahead of the curve’, ‘try something different’ or some other Ashtonism - I wonder if the accolades from the national press of how well Bristol City is being run has got to their heads, they’re already writing the headlines.....”Mark Ashton, (the chief exec of the year) with Steve Lansdown, (winner of the best chairman in the football league award) hailed for the vision to unearth manager of the year, Dean Holden, who against the odds, leads Bristol City to promotion to the premier league”. Then they wake up in a cold sweat in bed.... EDIT - sorry if i’ve moaned on a positive thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonG666 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 month contract so they don't have to pay out much compo soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I wonder if City’s preferred candidate isn’t available for 12 months for whatever reason...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity1992 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Bristol Sounds interview was good. Maybe some slight digs at Johnson - Set up to win, can become to obsessed with the opposition and can affect the players, I won't bulshit in interviews with soundbites...or something like that can't remember exactly what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: I think we learned from LJ that talk is cheap. Let's wait and see how the team does under him. Ashton says he has been appointed to take us to the next level. Let's see what happens. Since LJ I don't go by interviews,Like holdens interview hes saying what the fans want to here it's about getting you on his side.. I'm more bothered with what happens on the football field.Anybody can be proud he's made a step up in his career.. let's see what happens but I'm still stunned he come out tops in the interviews over more experienced candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, TedsHeadIs Red said: I wonder if City’s preferred candidate isn’t available for 12 months for whatever reason...... In twelve months Holden will still have twelve months left on his ‘rolling’ contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, RedZepperin said: Very good interview. Speaks well. Zero bullshit. I like him and really hope he succeeds. This is the single biggest plus for me. LJ's had a term for the bullshit he spouted, box-entries, etc. Ultimately made it very difficult to take him seriously, especially when blaming players. Hopefully Holden can get the team aspect re-intergrated in the squad mentaility, he's by all accounts a semi-decent man manager - so immediately better than LJ in that respect already. Up front, lose or win as a team. Good Start. Let's see what kind of signing's we're now linked with, we need to get a CB, RB, and CM as priorities imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 The first game of the season. Oh boy, will be either surprising brilliance or familiar pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Seneca the Younger said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Ashton stated they were Holdens decisions / choices so what would have happened if he said no.binned two blokes out for nothing? that doesnt quite sit right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilli74 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Spoke well ... but he knows if he doesn’t start well the fans will be on the clubs back pretty quickly ... also a 12month contract tells me the club almost expect it to be short term ? Not exactly putting a lot of faith in him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, AshtonG666 said: 12 month contract so they don't have to pay out much compo soon That point actually annoys me slightly as well. Doesn’t show much faith really and if he doesn’t succeed then doesn’t give him much of a buffer. Appreciate we are not a charity at all and no one forced him to accept but if MA and JL are so certain he is the right man then they should’ve stretched to at least a 2 year deal imo, indeed MA sounded almost embarrassed I thought when asked about it earlier on GTs Show. Good luck Deano, like most of us now you are here I’ll be rooting for you to be a success 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Here's the full press conference - it goes a bit odd after about 16 or 17 minutes when Mark Ashton keeps going on about Dean Holden being chosen because he is a 'human'. Not once but about five times. This guy is now in stratospheric levels of bullshit. Also lies about Downing's Championship promotion experience (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 He knows how to get the fans on side. Name checking Bedminster and Knowle not Southville and Clifton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 There must be more to this - we had a three-man managerial team looking after the team - LJ, Holden and McAllister - two get sacked and one gets the main job ... what have I missed?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Exile said: Dean Holden - Bristol City manager/head coach, whatever... Hard to believe...or indeed take seriously! What a time to be alive. I quite like managerhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry said: In fairness to him, more so on the Twentyman interview, he fully acknowledges that he’s not the popular choice, and he understands that. I like that. It’s hard to move on without understanding and acknowledging a problem, and he’s done that straight off the bat. Not everyone’s choice, but time to move on now. It’s done. I support City through whatever, and I want Dean to succeed. So I’m 100% behind him. Like Davefevs has mentioned a few times, I did see some things that I liked in those last 5 games. Particularly formation, possession and effort (a difficult thing to get in those dead-rubber games). Come on Deano, do your best and prove all the doubters wrong (of which I was one, but I’m fully behind you now). I support Holden and really hope he does well. I cannot support those higher up however. They have burnt their bridges for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Olé said: Here's the full press conference - it goes a bit odd after about 16 or 17 minutes when Mark Ashton keeps going on about Dean Holden being chosen because he is a 'human'. Not once but about five times. This guy is now in stratospheric levels of bullshit. Also lies about Downing's Championship promotion experience (again). In the middle of two slimy snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Why did Ashton feel the need to lie during this? He said “Keith Downing had twice been promoted, once with West Brom and once with Wolves” - when he was caretaker manager briefly at West Brom they finished 17th - they were not promoted under his watch and he was promoted from the 4th div as a player with Wolves, but MA spoke as though he’d done that as a coach ... very misleading ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Olé said: Here's the full press conference - it goes a bit odd after about 16 or 17 minutes when Mark Ashton keeps going on about Dean Holden being chosen because he is a 'human'. Not once but about five times. This guy is now in stratospheric levels of bullshit. Also lies about Downing's Championship promotion experience (again). MA and JL look like there on trial, you can see the unease on their faces when questioned. The public gallery and jury are not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Why did Ashton feel the need to lie during this? He said “Keith Downing had twice been promoted, once with West Brom and once with Wolves” Same question in the thread below! The best evidence I've found is he was a youth team coach at both clubs during a period each got promotion. Quite shameless level of lieing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Olé said: Here's the full press conference - it goes a bit odd after about 16 or 17 minutes when Mark Ashton keeps going on about Dean Holden being chosen because he is a 'human'. Not once but about five times. This guy is now in stratospheric levels of bullshit. Also lies about Downing's Championship promotion experience (again). Ashton has a PhD in bullshitting, clearly a master of the art. He’s a charlatan and has now fully revealed himself as part of this pantomime. I almost feel sorry for DH. He’s like Charlie Bucket being given the keys to the chocolate factory but hasn’t a clue. I genuinely don’t recall a time I have felt less connected or angry with our football club than as I do today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BristolCity1992 said: Bristol Sounds interview was good. Maybe some slight digs at Johnson - Set up to win, can become to obsessed with the opposition and can affect the players, I won't bulshit in interviews with soundbites...or something like that can't remember exactly what he said. I thought that a slight dig at lj,praying that dean turns lj negative into a big attacking postive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Judda said: He knows how to get the fans on side. Name checking Bedminster and Knowle not Southville and Clifton! Need a photo of him down Perrett’s like what Famara did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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