marcofisher Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Steve Watts said: He's played in midfield, is good on the ball and showed after the restart that he can attack quite effectively. Would rather have a specialised RWB but in the absence of one I'd say that defensively he's far better than Hunt, and offers a decent attacking outlet. I don't think it's much of a stretch to see him moved out there. Its about endurance and work rate to get up and down that touchline with nobody in front of you though. I don't think his style points to that, or will offer enough in the final third. The defensive aspect isn't as important at wing back, which is why Jack Hunt suits that position far more than full back. Certainly Vyner shouldn't and won't start over Hunt as a wing back if they are both fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: Kalas. Moore isn’t guaranteed to be a starter, I think. When has that determined our captain recently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Yup - it's Taylor Moore for me. A player who, when named, makes me think of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: A player who, when named, makes me think of this. There's got to be a song there - when we're eventually allowed back and can sing! Taylor Moore, Taylor Moore, It was love at first sight.............I'll let those better able to come up with the rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, italian dave said: There's got to be a song there - when we're eventually allowed back and can sing! Taylor Moore, Taylor Moore, It was love at first sight.............I'll let those better able to come up with the rest! Verse two .... Taylor Moore, Taylor Moore, It was love at first sight Taylor Moore, Taylor Moore, LJ thought you were shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Baker all day long for me. Touch wood he played a hell of a lot more games last season and he was our best defender by some way and leads by example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, marcofisher said: Its about endurance and work rate to get up and down that touchline with nobody in front of you though. I don't think his style points to that, or will offer enough in the final third. The defensive aspect isn't as important at wing back, which is why Jack Hunt suits that position far more than full back. Certainly Vyner shouldn't and won't start over Hunt as a wing back if they are both fit. Vyner has always struck me as an athletic lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Vyner has always struck me as an athletic lad. Physically very impressing, being able to cover a touchline for 90 minutes is a different story I would say. Have we seen anything from Vyner to even suggest he would be considered as a wing back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, marcofisher said: Physically very impressing, being able to cover a touchline for 90 minutes is a different story I would say. Have we seen anything from Vyner to even suggest he would be considered as a wing back? Only glimpses in those final few games....against Stoke and Preston he moved to RWB as a result of subs to Hunt and Pereira. Obviously would like to bring in a natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, marcofisher said: Its about endurance and work rate to get up and down that touchline with nobody in front of you though. I don't think his style points to that, or will offer enough in the final third. The defensive aspect isn't as important at wing back, which is why Jack Hunt suits that position far more than full back. Certainly Vyner shouldn't and won't start over Hunt as a wing back if they are both fit. In all fairness to him we haven't seen enough of him to make that call either way. You could very well be right, but I've a feeling we may find out either way. I'm not convinced Holden is a fan of Hunt. He certainly wasn't a first choice at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: Baker all day long for me. Touch wood he played a hell of a lot more games last season and he was our best defender by some way and leads by example. Well said that man, stand out candidate and gets so much stick about these injuries it’s a joke he plays the game full on and gets injured by leads by example our best defender and one of the best in the division we’re very lucky to have him. How on earth people are suggesting Moore as captain is nuts, maybe one day but has to nail down a place first before that funny how everyone seems to think he will get in a head of Vyner on what basis? Vyner looked great last 2/3 games as RCB I think Vyner will become a favourite this season, much more composed than Moore who I always think looks like he’s got a mistake in him and can be sloppy/out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: Baker all day long for me. Touch wood he played a hell of a lot more games last season and he was our best defender by some way and leads by example. 3 hours ago, mightyreds89 said: Well said that man, stand out candidate and gets so much stick about these injuries it’s a joke he plays the game full on and gets injured by leads by example our best defender and one of the best in the division we’re very lucky to have him. How on earth people are suggesting Moore as captain is nuts, maybe one day but has to nail down a place first before that funny how everyone seems to think he will get in a head of Vyner on what basis? Vyner looked great last 2/3 games as RCB I think Vyner will become a favourite this season, much more composed than Moore who I always think looks like he’s got a mistake in him and can be sloppy/out of position. Baker, IMO, is probably the worst shout for captain. He’s a hot head who is known to get himself into trouble every now and again. He’s also not particularly loud on the pitch, and tends to focus on his own game. That’s not a bad trait, but just isn’t one of a captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 11 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: Baker all day long for me. Touch wood he played a hell of a lot more games last season and he was our best defender by some way and leads by example. And who for the second half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 17:18, Swede said: You need someone who can pull the strings on and off the park who can talk the talk, very adroit at press conferences and who is quite at home being the leader. Step forward Mark Ashton Don’t give him ideas, he would probably go full John Terry and put on a football shirt for any photos too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 20, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Have we just seen our new captain signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, phantom said: Have we just seen our new captain signed? 100%. I did say Baker but this guy is quality and is a leader. Bought to be Captain. Him and Walsh in midfield works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Davefevs said: Vyner has always struck me as an athletic lad. Pretty sure he was a regional schools champion at 400m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Williams said in the interview he was a leader, surely a sign post right there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 15:03, Roger Red Hat said: I'd like to see Taylor get a full season under his belt without the responsibility of the captaincy first. Then I totally agree. Spot on. don't burden him with the captaincy. Let him cement his place in the first team without added pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SBB Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, phantom said: Have we just seen our new captain signed? I would be completely ok with this. It would also help me buy into Holden doing things his own way that little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, phantom said: Have we just seen our new captain signed? Possible I think. Can't see many other contenders within the squad. I think Morrell is a potential one in a few seasons, not yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Is the latest City tweet a suggestion that Kalas might get the chance to be captain this week? Pic of him with a caption saying 'new week, new opportunities'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I'm not sure about Kalas as captain. Not only do I think he's too quiet but also that his overall performance last season didn't match expectations following his loan spell. I want him concentrating on his game rather than the captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneybcfc Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Didn't we go through this last season with even an explainer from LJ that captain is basically ceremonial these days, the team leadership is made up of several (leader) pros including ones at younger ages (so TM probably part of that assuming we don't loan him out). Louis Carey was ours in his final season where he played only enough games to get the record. So long as the players 'always' have a leader on the pitch no matter who is picked is way more important than trying to pick one player as captain who will play all the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/joe-williams-would-love-be-wigan-athletic-captain-down-track-2866886 Joe Williams sounds like the right kind of character to be captain, and reading the above it is something he wants in his career. He captained the Everton U21s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I can see Baker getting it, with the idea being that the vice captain is the "captain in waiting", taking the armband whenever Baker is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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