Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 https://www.coachesvoice.com/i-got-the-golden-ticket/ Let’s hope the similar 30-odd days is a good omen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Davefevs said: https://www.coachesvoice.com/i-got-the-golden-ticket/ Let’s hope the similar 30-odd days is a good omen. Thanks. Also thought this was a good read..... https://www.coachesvoice.com/the-firing-line/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, Smokey said: Thanks. Also thought this was a good read..... https://www.coachesvoice.com/the-firing-line/ 4 things I'm taking from these 2 articles. 1. He does not like clubs appointing assistants if the Head Coach does not want them. 2. He understands that players need to be treated differently to get the best out of them. 3. He will be honest and open if he thinks a player isn't good for the morale of the club 4. He's not likely to take a job where he's not happy with how things are set up. All of that bodes well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, Smokey said: Thanks. Also thought this was a good read..... https://www.coachesvoice.com/the-firing-line/ Yes, read them bith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Is Simpson the England under 20 manager that told Taylor Moore he wasn't good enough and dropped him entirely whilst he was captain? Or was that decision already made before his appointment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, pride of the west said: Is Simpson the England under 20 manager that told Taylor Moore he wasn't good enough and dropped him entirely whilst he was captain? Or was that decision already made before his appointment? Presumably yes. That will be an interesting reunion. Although the interviews I've read with Taylor Moore seems to be aware he wasn't playing well enough at the time. Did he actually tell him he wasn't good enough of just not select him due to form? If the latter then it's just something players have to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm sure I heard Moore say in a video chat during lockdown that he was told he wasn't good enough and they wanted to go in a different direction. I'm sure he also said that with hindsight he now understands but was tough at the time being captain all throughout the age groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Yes, had been in squad under Paul Williams. Interesting that both Moore and Palmer had played under Downing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think these two new coaches could be more important than Holden if we are looking at progressing out of this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Top Robin said: I think these two new coaches could be more important than Holden if we are looking at progressing out of this division. I think the fact we've persuaded them both to quit jobs with the England set-up that they have been in for four or five years to come and assist Holden means the club must have sold their plans fairly ambitiously. Certainly Downing talked about promotion and "making history" in his interview this morning. I'm still far from convinced that Dean Holden is the right man or that he will deliver us promotion but I am starting to consider the possibility that the board genuinely believe that to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 The big difference the two new coaches will provide is the ability to actually coach and develop our players Properly to get the best out of them. with LJ, it was always about him. Very egotistical with everything he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird1 Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Top Robin said: I think these two new coaches could be more important than Holden if we are looking at progressing out of this division. Exactly, they do come with a wealth of experience, and will have a say in matters, possibly not so much if the head coach was a big name, the more I see of the set up the more I like. Of course others on here will not agree and just churn out the same old same old. I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Paul Simpson interview on the website is very good apart from one bit where he says the fans won’t mind players making a mistake if they are working hard. Obviously hasn’t read city fans on OTIB, Twitter or Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think the fact we've persuaded them both to quit jobs with the England set-up that they have been in for four or five years to come and assist Holden means the club must have sold their plans fairly ambitiously. Certainly Downing talked about promotion and "making history" in his interview this morning. I'm still far from convinced that Dean Holden is the right man or that he will deliver us promotion but I am starting to consider the possibility that the board genuinely believe that to be the case. Or there's no point hanging around the England set up when internationals could be few and far between over the next year or two depending on Covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 On a separate note, if our Head Coach gets fired, who'll be the Man with the Holden Gun? (Is that the time, must dash) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think the fact we've persuaded them both to quit jobs with the England set-up that they have been in for four or five years to come and assist Holden means the club must have sold their plans fairly ambitiously. Certainly Downing talked about promotion and "making history" in his interview this morning. I'm still far from convinced that Dean Holden is the right man or that he will deliver us promotion but I am starting to consider the possibility that the board genuinely believe that to be the case. Didn't someone on here say the FA are looking to make a lot of coaches redundant due to Covid? If there are no crowds at England games their income will presumably take a significant hit. So maybe they were worried about job security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Good, positive interview from Simpson today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Including Holden, 3 very straight talking blokes, could be the difference from LJ’s tenure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Think this is a sensible choice from the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said: Including Holden, 3 very straight talking blokes, could be the difference from LJ’s tenure To true they are. Imagine both of them chatting to Holden . Ere Dean , that Mark Ashton bloke. He don’t have chat some shit don’t he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Top Robin said: I think these two new coaches could be more important than Holden if we are looking at progressing out of this division. I thought this too. Not many players were improved much under the previous set up. There were always remarks about any talent being coached out of them or being over-coached. Will be interesting to see how the players progress over the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Chris Whoton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Mods @phantom Can we amend title to include “...and first interview”, so people get to see it. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Also, this might pacify some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think the fact we've persuaded them both to quit jobs with the England set-up that they have been in for four or five years to come and assist Holden means the club must have sold their plans fairly ambitiously. Certainly Downing talked about promotion and "making history" in his interview this morning. I'm still far from convinced that Dean Holden is the right man or that he will deliver us promotion but I am starting to consider the possibility that the board genuinely believe that to be the case. Who do we think identified these two? Presumably Holden wanted to work with them. I'd be very impressed if Holden's pitch was as thorough as picking these 2 specifically, and then that pitch was put to them like you say convinced them to leave their England jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Who do we think identified these two? Presumably Holden wanted to work with them. I'd be very impressed if Holden's pitch was as thorough as picking these 2 specifically, and then that pitch was put to them like you say convinced them to leave their England jobs Seems to be Midlands connection and a West brom connection, I would move towards a Ashton decision on these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Comes across well, as did Downing and Holden. Let’s hope they hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Who do we think identified these two? Presumably Holden wanted to work with them. I'd be very impressed if Holden's pitch was as thorough as picking these 2 specifically, and then that pitch was put to them like you say convinced them to leave their England jobs Simpson managed Holden at Shrewsbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Who do we think identified these two? Presumably Holden wanted to work with them. I'd be very impressed if Holden's pitch was as thorough as picking these 2 specifically, and then that pitch was put to them like you say convinced them to leave their England jobs 7 minutes ago, Street red said: Seems to be Midlands connection and a West brom connection, I would move towards a Ashton decision on these two. 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Simpson managed Holden at Shrewsbury. In my heart of hearts, I want to hear Holden say something along the lines that he asked Paul Simpson as he’d been his manager at Shrewsbury, and between them they thought Downing would be a good addition. But there’s a part of me that says it was nothing like that Even if MA did play a leading role in it....if LJ had gone out this summer and attracted these two, I reckon a lot of fans would see it as a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted August 13, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Mods @phantom Can we amend title to include “...and first interview”, so people get to see it. Ta. Your wish etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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