SoliCyder Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 17 hours ago, havanatopia said: I bet you don't have the Scouse accent to go with it tho mucker? Indeed no. My time in Newcastle was enough to leave me with northern vowels, but aside from that we have the blandest of generic well spoken middle class accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Davefevs said: After the November international break, there are 15 games in 53 days. We also have to consider that any of our players that go on international duty, may have to quarantine on return. Potentially that’s Wells, Diedhou, Kalas, Nagy, Eliasson, Morrell (if Wales are away), and could go deeper into the junior international squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: We also have to consider that any of our players that go on international duty, may have to quarantine on return. Potentially that’s Wells, Diedhou, Kalas, Nagy, Eliasson, Morrell (if Wales are away), and could go deeper into the junior international squads. Really good point....and you wonder whether EFL / PL will be talking to FIFA / UEFA regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Have Wigan had your pants down, or is the rumoured £2.5M fee wide of the mark ?. Is 2.5M pants down money? 23 with 100+ Championship caps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: 20 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: Is 2.5M pants down money? 23 with 100+ Championship caps? And Wigan fans saying he is one of their best players. I'm not even that excited by it but he has had a Nightmare there.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Have Wigan had your pants down, or is the rumoured £2.5M fee wide of the mark ?. 7 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: Is 2.5M pants down money? 23 with 100+ Championship caps? I think when Barnsley's record fee paid is less than £2m, £2.5m will seem higher to @NIGHTMARE than it does to us. Bristol City have, in the last few seasons alone, paid out fees of £5.3m on Fam, £8m on Kalas, plus around £4m and £3m on at least half a dozen others. Not to look down at Barnsley, they're a great club and I expect them to surprise people this season, but we are used to paying much higher fees than they. I saw £2.5m for a young, yet experienced English CM and thought it looked like about par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Kieffer Moore £2M Joe Gelhardt £1M. keeping £25M Jude Bellingham out of his preferred position in England set up. Antonee Robinson £2M . Nearly went for £8M in January. All 3 are better than Williams and Williams as gone for more money than them, you’ve been spanked haven’t you ?. Wigan are having a mass fire sale because of the difficulties they are in, so those 3 (as well as Williams) are worth much more than the prices clubs have paid for them. Add to that, you’re comparing a combative centre midfielder with a left back, an 18 year old striker and a target man, which makes little sense Anyone who believes we’ve been ‘spanked’ getting someone of Williams’ quality for as little as a rumoured 2.5 million quid obviously doesn’t have the greatest knowledge of the championship in general, or in fact our squad, and the positions where we need to improve. I think you’ll find every City fan will see this move as a bargain, hardly one where we’ve had our ‘pants down’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Kieffer Moore £2M Joe Gelhardt £1M. keeping £25M Jude Bellingham out of his preferred position in England set up. Antonee Robinson £2M . Nearly went for £8M in January. All 3 are better than Williams and Williams as gone for more money than them, you’ve been spanked haven’t you ?. All 3 are better? How would you know exactly? Your best player is Dickie Bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashmir Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Kieffer Moore £2M Joe Gelhardt £1M. keeping £25M Jude Bellingham out of his preferred position in England set up. Antonee Robinson £2M . Nearly went for £8M in January. All 3 are better than Williams and Williams as gone for more money than them, you’ve been spanked haven’t you ?. Why on earth would a Barnsley fan be interested in who we’re spending money on? I can’t imagine ever feeling the need to go to a Barnsley forum to take the piss out of them only surviving the championship due to a Wigan point deduction. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, NlGHTMARE said: Two of them have gone to premier league clubs and the other two have played for us. Once upon a time Nicky Hunt was at a Premier League club, I can assure you that doesn’t make a massive amount of difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Kieffer Moore £2M Joe Gelhardt £1M. keeping £25M Jude Bellingham out of his preferred position in England set up. Antonee Robinson £2M . Nearly went for £8M in January. All 3 are better than Williams and Williams as gone for more money than them, you’ve been spanked haven’t you ?. You can make very strong arguments for all four of these being absolute bargains. Just because Robinson was half a mill cheaper doesn't mean Williams is not a great deal too. I'd put a little wager on with you that if and when we sell Williams on in a couple of years time he'll go for £5 mill or more (probably to the prem or a very top championship club). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Better value than Darren Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: I’d have Williams and the other 3 all day long, and for 2.5 million you’ve got a bargain, but in the light of the other 3 players fees, you’ve been been ripped off haven’t you ?. Not at all, as you say it’s a bargain. Someone of his quality, especially with our history of selling players for inflated fees, could easily go for 8 million quid in a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Kieffer Moore £2M Joe Gelhardt £1M. keeping £25M Jude Bellingham out of his preferred position in England set up. Antonee Robinson £2M . Nearly went for £8M in January. All 3 are better than Williams and Williams as gone for more money than them, you’ve been spanked haven’t you ?. Embarrassed yourself there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Absolutely no doubt I agree with every word, but just think about what I’m asking, looking at the other 3 fees. Have you been ripped off have you paid over the odds. Just seen your message above, yeah fair point. I suppose a large chunk of the difference may be simply down to what each player negotiated as a relegation release clause fee in their contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Absolutely no doubt I agree with every word, but just think about what I’m asking, looking at the other 3 fees. Have you been ripped off have you paid over the odds. Different release clauses for different players. 2.5 mil is cheap especially when it’s the type of player you are desperate for. I’d say it’s a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: Absolutely no doubt I agree with every word, but just think about what I’m asking, looking at the other 3 fees. Have you been ripped off have you paid over the odds. Nightmare can you not see how you are undermining your own argument? You agree 2.5 million (reportedly the release fee) is good value but we've been ripped off. You're saying this on the basis of other players who may or may not be better going for less, I'm under the assumption that the Robinson fee like Joe Williams was a clause in their contract so was predetermined. If multiple teams want to buy such players they come up with the fee in the contract hence why we paid what we supposedly did and other teams paid what they did. You seem sour. In the context of football not other players release clauses we've got a good deal. You're lucky Wigan did implode or your team would be in League One pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: I’d have Williams and the other 3 all day long, and for 2.5 million you’ve got a bargain, but in the light of the other 3 players fees, you’ve been been ripped off haven’t you ?. I am sure that we can afford it . We are a sensibly run club and don’t sell all our best players every year just to pay our bills . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I miss the eighties. That Boer War was a bugger, wasn't it Major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, NlGHTMARE said: Have Wigan had your pants down, or is the rumoured £2.5M fee wide of the mark ?. It’s a well known fact that Mark Ashton goes commando when involved in transfer negotiations. That way none can have his pants down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, downendcity said: That Boer War was a bugger, wasn't it Major? They didn’t like it up ‘em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Suspect it’s just a simple case of relegation release fees set at the time of signing for Robinson, Moore and Williams. All three would go for more than the fees we’ve seen in a normal market without release clauses or Wigan being in administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, NlGHTMARE said: I’m not taking the piss I’m asking a question. OK, then the answer would be.... No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 On 20/08/2020 at 10:39, Davefevs said: Yep gonna have to mix and match those 3 midfield positions. As others have said in other threads it’s possible we could play Paterson, Szmodics or Palmer off of Wells (especially if Diedhiou goes). Yep, first Holden signing....and he’s already tried to solve that issue. No disrespect to Korey, but on paper this is a real upgrade. Nice to see us beating off rumoured opposition from “bigger” clubs. Bentley Taylor, Kalas, Baker Williams Morrell, Walsh, Patterson/Elliason, DaSilva Wells Diedhiou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 I also imagine Robinson went with significant add-ons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, WECANDO said: Bentley Taylor, Kalas, Baker Williams Morrell, Walsh, Patterson/Elliason, DaSilva Wells Diedhiou Morrell as RWB or going without one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, SBB said: I also imagine Robinson went with significant add-ons? I don’t think so. Release clauses do t usually contain such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, James54De said: I don’t think so. Release clauses do t usually contain such thing. So all 3 players had relegation release clauses? That’s a lot of talent going out the door for very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, SBB said: So all 3 players had relegation release clauses? That’s a lot of talent going out the door for very little. Robinson definitely did. So did Williams. Not sure on the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 9 hours ago, SBB said: So all 3 players had relegation release clauses? That’s a lot of talent going out the door for very little. Agreed but if they stayed that’s a lot of wages to be paying on a reduced income . Wigan are between a rock and a hard place and I don’t mean Weston . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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