Hampshire reds Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 he is injured again. we need to hit the transfer market. we need a centre half that is not made of glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Hampshire reds said: he is injured again. we need to hit the transfer market. we need a centre half that is not made of glass Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbristol Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Gregor Mac Gregor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: I would say this is getting ridiculous, but it got ridiculous a while ago. Can't see us keeping him on longer than this season. Shame because he is a good centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Last year of his contract, highly unlikely that he will get another unless there is a drastic improvement in his availability record. Even then as a top five earner it is doubtful that he is cost effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Last year of his contract, highly unlikely that he will get another unless there is a drastic improvement in his availability record. Even then as a top five earner it is doubtful that he is cost effective. Yeah agreed. His wage could be used more widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Even if he weren't to get injured every game then for me he isn't really the right type as he's so bad at passing and hoofs it too much, and hoofs it badly. I'd love it if we could sell or loan out and bring in 2 more better suited. I know, very unlikely. I'd be careful what you wish for though. I believe that Taylor Moore and Zak Vyner, although young will have a lot more mistakes in them this season than Bakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Given the frequency of his injuries part of the new sponsorship deal involved personal transport for NB to be transported from the field of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah agreed. His wage could be used more widely. No, we don’t want Tomlin back thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Cue Ashley Williams return.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Even if he weren't to get injured every game then for me he isn't really the right type as he's so bad at passing and hoofs it too much, and hoofs it badly. I'd love it if we could sell or loan out and bring in 2 more better suited. I know, very unlikely. I would look at the movement in front of him first. One of City’s biggest issues imo. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 no issues with Baker as a footballer its his injury record. its getting beyond a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, alexukhc said: Cue Ashley Williams return.... Yay! The return of Speedy Gonzales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 For those wondering: yes it was an early injury. "Additionally, centre-back Nathan Baker is a doubt for that match as well, after coming off early in the friendly draw against Aston Villa on Wednesday afternoon." https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-citys-nathan-baker-liam-4460562 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I saw a thread on here at some point last season outlining the number of games that Baker had gone off injured having started the match. As I recall the stats were horrendous an at one stage LJ mentioned Bakers inability to complete a game and what difficulties that led to in terms of the subs bench. He had the same issues at Villa. Seems he’s at it again........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Cue Ashley Williams return.... We can all take the piss but Williams arrived 5 games into the season, got sent off twice & yet still played more minutes than Baker did.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Even if he weren't to get injured every game then for me he isn't really the right type as he's so bad at passing and hoofs it too much, and hoofs it badly. I'd love it if we could sell or loan out and bring in 2 more better suited. I know, very unlikely. The annoying part is he's demonstrated he's actually very good at playing out from the back and picking good forward passes, Nottingham Forest back end of the season was a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Given the frequency of his injuries part of the new sponsorship deal involved personal transport for NB to be transported from the field of play. I really don’t understand why this picture made me laugh but there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Personally, I want everyone who plays for us to turn into a world beater, but I really struggle to see that happening with Baker. If he left, I wouldn't be overly dismayed right now, but if he stays, I hope he will prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 All in his head, needs to see a psychologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, TomF said: All in his head, needs to see a psychologist Also all in his head due to the large amount of concussions he's had. I actually don't like watching him play because it worries me every time he goes down clutching his head. We 100% need a left sided CB, and it can't be Ashley Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, TomF said: All in his head, needs to see a psychologist Probably the whole team could benefit from a sports psychologist. I've often wondered if one of our main weaknesses is a lack of mental toughness/focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Even if he weren't to get injured every game then for me he isn't really the right type as he's so bad at passing and hoofs it too much, and hoofs it badly. I'd love it if we could sell or loan out and bring in 2 more better suited. I know, very unlikely. "Every game" is a dumb comment. 45 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Last year of his contract, highly unlikely that he will get another unless there is a drastic improvement in his availability record. Even then as a top five earner it is doubtful that he is cost effective. His "availability record" is actually very good. How many games has he actually missed through injury? I can't find any definitive information either way but considering he made 33 starts last season in the league and 34 2 seasons ago (one in between was 8 but we had webster and kalas) I dont think his availability is an issue. 33 minutes ago, Robbored said: I saw a thread on here at some point last season outlining the number of games that Baker had gone off injured having started the match. As I recall the stats were horrendous an at one stage LJ mentioned Bakers inability to complete a game and what difficulties that led to in terms of the subs bench. He had the same issues at Villa. Seems he’s at it again........... I also recall you posting you couldn't remember the last time he'd completed 90 minutes just a couple of days after his 10th successive 90 minutes. Define "horrendous" ? Went off 3 times with injury last season in 33 starts, 2 "tactical" subs and 28 full 90s Season before he had 8 full 90s out of 12 starts, but we were lucky to have Webster and Kalas available almost all season. 17/18 had 34 starts and went off early twice. So yes, it seems like NB picks up the occasional knock in a game that he can't shake off but from what I can see and remember doesn't spend lengthy periods out injured (happy to be proved wrong). He puts his body on the line, it's enivitble that he'll pick up knocks, I prefer that to shirking a challenge. All that said, I think we can upgrade and improve as his distribution isn't the best. He's a very good defender but he is limited, I just think it's ridiculous that we have this discussion every time he picks up a knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 52 minutes ago, Sturny said: I really don’t understand why this picture made me laugh but there you go To the tune of Benny Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 DH has promised Moore regular game time. He says Baker will start every week.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Last year of his contract, highly unlikely that he will get another unless there is a drastic improvement in his availability record. Even then as a top five earner it is doubtful that he is cost effective. You have to ask yourself whether you can bring in someone better for the same wages first! 1 hour ago, mozo said: Yeah agreed. His wage could be used more widely. According to Kid he’s on £17k per week. Just ignoring injuries for the moment., he had a decent season just gone. 18/19 he had to play second fiddle to Kalas and Webster. In 17/18, he had a decent season too, Flint got lots of plaudits, but I still think Flint is a selfish CB, focused on his game only, everyone else to fit in with what he does, including the RB playing so narrow, because of Flint’s lack of pace on the turn, or Wright having to play LCB. Flint was decent, but not as good as people thought. Generally he has played a good chunk of games each season. 17/18 contained a 3 game suspension too. The question marks are more the injuries in game, rather than injuries keeping him from being selected...which are bloody frustrating. As it stands he is more than likely first choice LCB in a 3, unless Holden suddenly plumps for Vyner and Moore either side of Kalas. If we bring someone in who’s better then we can review Baker’s contract situation. If Holden believes he is his main man at LCB he should be looking to tie him down beyond next summer. Its a leap of faith to be confident you can get better than Baker for less money....unless going down the loan route. Clarke and Guehi have been sorted, looks like Kipre is off to West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, MarcusX said: "Every game" is a dumb comment. His "availability record" is actually very good. How many games has he actually missed through injury? I can't find any definitive information either way but considering he made 33 starts last season in the league and 34 2 seasons ago (one in between was 8 but we had webster and kalas) I dont think his availability is an issue. I also recall you posting you couldn't remember the last time he'd completed 90 minutes just a couple of days after his 10th successive 90 minutes. Define "horrendous" ? Went off 3 times with injury last season in 33 starts, 2 "tactical" subs and 28 full 90s Season before he had 8 full 90s out of 12 starts, but we were lucky to have Webster and Kalas available almost all season. 17/18 had 34 starts and went off early twice. So yes, it seems like NB picks up the occasional knock in a game that he can't shake off but from what I can see and remember doesn't spend lengthy periods out injured (happy to be proved wrong). He puts his body on the line, it's enivitble that he'll pick up knocks, I prefer that to shirking a challenge. All that said, I think we can upgrade and improve as his distribution isn't the best. He's a very good defender but he is limited, I just think it's ridiculous that we have this discussion every time he picks up a knock. Top post this! I'll only add that imo people quickly forget he was our best central defender last season and for me was only second to Fam for our player of the season. Genuinely think he's one of the best centre defenders in the league. Obviously several are much better on the ball but as a pure defender I think he's right up there. It's crazy talk imo to look to move him on and renewing his contract would be one of my top priorities if I was DH. We do need another LCB to challenge / as back up this window but for me that would be in addition to Baker not as a direct replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Enough. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 You could do some kind of pay as you play deal at the end of his contract (not sure he'd go for that though). Good defender just not fit consistently enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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