Son of a Ciderhead Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Hello all, Bit of a lurker, this is my first post, hope it's welcome. Tifo Football put this video out this morning: City, LJ, and Tammy get a mention - albeit I think what is said is common knowledge on here, but the rest of it has some interesting stuff and probably worth remembering while the transfer rumours are flying about. Also can have a bit of fun guessing the unnamed players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 What’s interesting is the geographical disadvantage we would appear to have over London, North West or Midlands clubs where players don’t have to uproot their family to come to the South West . We do well to attract anybody at all from that perspective. Plymouth must have nightmares trying to do deals. So we are a pretty big club with a huge potential. We are professionally run , have a good stadium and training ground under construction although we are not the highest payers, so for all the criticism aimed at Ashton and the recruitment team most of it is unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulton Red Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I think the location thing can also be a good thing for us. I think players willing to move away from home And out of their comfort zones to further their careers Will be more mature than those who stay locally. My opinion isn’t based on a vast survey, just on my cousins son who played from 7 for his hometown club, resisted going out on loan repeatedly and finally was ‘encouraged’ to go to Yeovil and a London club. He liked Yeovil but absolutely hated the London club, but I think it was the making of him, he went back, won a place and played in the championship for a couple of seasons before a nice move to the MLS, now captaining the team and loving it. Would never have happened without those loans I’m sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Joe jordan, said many players, didnt want to come here because where bristol was located. He said he used to make sure they were drove in through clifton, so they could see the scenery, when joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Amazing how many players who relocate to Bristol stay. Its seens Portishead and Clevedon are the preferred locations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Amazing how many players who relocate to Bristol stay. Its seens Portishead and Clevedon are the preferred locations True, the Tom Ritchies & Gerry Sweeneys are well into pension age now & have never moved away. I think the issue is persuading some to come in the first place, sadly it is probably more about money initially rather than the location, otherwise no one would ever join Cardiff, would they? Once they are here many love it & let’s be honest, it is pretty obvious why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Ciderhead Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I think Bristol as a location has been an issue for some players (did Tomlin break a promise to relocate?) but has been well liked by those who do move, some of the rumours about Fam and Eliasson have mentioned that both enjoy the area. I wonder if overseas players are maybe easier to attract since Bristol has its own cosmopolitan vibe, although it's not quite London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 LJ comes out of that very well. I hope Holden was taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Clutton Caveman said: Amazing how many players who relocate to Bristol stay. Its seens Portishead and Clevedon are the preferred locations Of course ! The panoramic views of the aqua blue ocean are second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Once they are here many love it & let’s be honest, it is pretty obvious why. Dolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, BigTone said: Of course ! The panoramic views of the aqua blue ocean are second to none. You mean the view of Staple Hill high street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said: You mean the view of Staple Hill high street Up there with the Pyramids IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Son of a Ciderhead said: I think Bristol as a location has been an issue for some players (did Tomlin break a promise to relocate?) but has been well liked by those who do move, some of the rumours about Fam and Eliasson have mentioned that both enjoy the area. I wonder if overseas players are maybe easier to attract since Bristol has its own cosmopolitan vibe, although it's not quite London Tomlin definitely had a place off of Cumberland Road overlooking the docks as I know someone who viewed it when he was selling it. Whether he stayed there is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Relaxing on the water at Clevedon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Son of a Ciderhead said: I think Bristol as a location has been an issue for some players (did Tomlin break a promise to relocate?) but has been well liked by those who do move, some of the rumours about Fam and Eliasson have mentioned that both enjoy the area. I wonder if overseas players are maybe easier to attract since Bristol has its own cosmopolitan vibe, although it's not quite London **allegedly not the only promise he broke whilst in Bristol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Ciderhead Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Tomlin definitely had a place off of Cumberland Road overlooking the docks as I know someone who viewed it when he was selling it. Whether he stayed there is another matter Thanks for the added info, I was going off a memory of a rumour 6 minutes ago, 'Orns said: **allegedly not the only promise he broke whilst in Bristol.... I guess we'll never know the whole story, but there didn't seem to anyone at the club sorry to see him go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Son of a Ciderhead said: I think Bristol as a location has been an issue for some players (did Tomlin break a promise to relocate?) but has been well liked by those who do move, some of the rumours about Fam and Eliasson have mentioned that both enjoy the area. I wonder if overseas players are maybe easier to attract since Bristol has its own cosmopolitan vibe, although it's not quite London I think location is no longer an excuse or issue these days as opposed to 20/30 years ago contracts are far more lucrative these days and let’s be honest there are far worse places to live than Bristol and play football at a nice stadium and pending state of the art training ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: What’s interesting is the geographical disadvantage we would appear to have over London, North West or Midlands clubs where players don’t have to uproot their family to come to the South West . We do well to attract anybody at all from that perspective. Plymouth must have nightmares trying to do deals. So we are a pretty big club with a huge potential. We are professionally run , have a good stadium and training ground under construction although we are not the highest payers, so for all the criticism aimed at Ashton and the recruitment team most of it is unjust. The North East of England is arguably more remote but look at Newcastle, Sunderland and even Boro they've have had no problem attracting players, neither have Cardiff or Swansea and they're further west and more remote than us. It all boils down to money. Is it yhat we are more frugal, careful than these other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Ciderhead Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, INCRED said: I think location is no longer an excuse or issue these days as opposed to 20/30 years ago contracts are far more lucrative these days and let’s be honest there are far worse places to live than Bristol and play football at a nice stadium and pending state of the art training ground 20 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: The North East of England is arguably more remote but look at Newcastle, Sunderland and even Boro they've have had no problem attracting players, neither have Cardiff or Swansea and they're further west and more remote than us. It all boils down to money. Is it yhat we are more frugal, careful than these other clubs. The video suggested location is more of an issue than people think and provided an unnamed example of a championship player who took a pay cut for better location and playing time (can't work out who it is myself though). I would imagine City have missed out some players not wanting to disrupt their family life but persuaded other players by the fact that Bristol is an attractive city to live in (Joe Williams reportedly chose us over Boro and I would be surprised if that was down to money). Clearly neither money nor location is everything and I think the video does a good job of explaining that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Interesting stuff. London absolutely would be a big pull for players, especially foreign ones. Gonna hazard a guess- the player in question moving from top end Championship club- Tyler Walker? Pure stab in the dark but would think Coventry likely to be at the bottom end, or say bottom third anyway this season, Nottingham Forest at the top end- and more chance of regular football at his new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Paulton Red said: I think the location thing can also be a good thing for us. I think players willing to move away from home And out of their comfort zones to further their careers Will be more mature than those who stay locally. My opinion isn’t based on a vast survey, just on my cousins son who played from 7 for his hometown club, resisted going out on loan repeatedly and finally was ‘encouraged’ to go to Yeovil and a London club. He liked Yeovil but absolutely hated the London club, but I think it was the making of him, he went back, won a place and played in the championship for a couple of seasons before a nice move to the MLS, now captaining the team and loving it. Would never have happened without those loans I’m sure I saw this as a challenge to work out the player you're referring too. Thanks, that killed a couple of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 7 hours ago, GrahamC said: True, the Tom Ritchies & Gerry Sweeneys are well into pension age now & have never moved away. I think the issue is persuading some to come in the first place, sadly it is probably more about money initially rather than the location, otherwise no one would ever join Cardiff, would they? Once they are here many love it & let’s be honest, it is pretty obvious why. Wish that were true about Cardiff very progressive city unlike Bristol where marvellous Marvin does everything possible to hold Bristol back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 That was a good watch. I’m amazed how even to this day, some managers just phone up clubs and ask ‘if anybody is available’. How is that professional in any way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Bryans Left Peg said: I saw this as a challenge to work out the player you're referring too. Thanks, that killed a couple of minutes. Fred Titmus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, INCRED said: I think location is no longer an excuse or issue these days as opposed to 20/30 years ago contracts are far more lucrative these days and let’s be honest there are far worse places to live than Bristol and play football at a nice stadium and pending state of the art training ground Plus you have the airport close by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shaun Taylor said: Plus you have the airport close by Fourth most accessible City in the country from Europe and the World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Fourth most accessible City in the country from Europe and the World Its a fab place to live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTone said: Fred Titmus? Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Shaun Taylor said: Plus you have the airport close by And Yatton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 I have a mate who works at the FA and is around players a lot. His view based on dressing room chat is it’s 90% wages (bragging rights). Pay em and they will come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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