Shtanley Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Episode #109 of OSIB is now out. Josh and @Davefevsjoin me to discuss the win against Exeter. I promise I'm a lot less unbearable than you can imagine considering Antoine's wonder strike! Links and that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Thanks for inviting me on Stanley, really enjoyed making my debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Thanks for inviting me on Stanley, really enjoyed making my debut. Looking forward to hearing you Dave, don’t you do the other podcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Episode #109 of OSIB is now out. Josh and @Davefevsjoin me to discuss the win against Exeter. I promise I'm a lot less unbearable than you can imagine considering Antoine's wonder strike! Links and that To be fair Stan you’ve been calling this on for years so I think you can bask in some shared glory. Glad to hear its not ALL Semenyo though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I’m honestly expecting a whole separate episode just to talk about Semenyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, One Team said: Looking forward to hearing you Dave, don’t you do the other podcast? It’s the West Country, everything’s a bit incestuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lrrr said: I’m honestly expecting a whole separate episode just to talk about Semenyo Davefevs spreadsheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, One Team said: Looking forward to hearing you Dave, don’t you do the other podcast? He`s on a two hour emergency loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Great, looking forward to this tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He`s on a two hour emergency loan. Are stats guys similar to goalkeepers then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Dr Balls said: Are stats guys similar to goalkeepers then? Yep. The EFL have stated (Rule 6, sub paragraph 8 I think) that should all a podcast`s stats experts be hung over on a Sunday morning one can be loaned in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 If you want to take money for doing work and providing entertainment you absolutely should and no one should think ill of you for that. Hard work should get rewards! I debated whether to comment or just stop listening but you did ask for comments so... Who the sponsor is, is way more important to me than having a sponsor. I think this one compromises the integrity of the show. I don't think I'll listen anymore to any of the episodes after the Mansion bet and voice of the fans/co-commentary stuff. I think you're a bit too close to the club for me to personally and it's lost its "people talk honestly about football" appeal. I don't think you're actively lying, but I do feel the self censorship, and I've really got no interest in listening to that. It's feels about as independent as Hong Kong! Coupled with the self promotion and advertising time means I don't enjoy the product as much as it's less talk about the thing I'm interested in which is unfiltered football opinions. You accept some cost as people certainly can't be expected to pay for the "privilege" of entertaining me for free but it's gone past the line for me where cost paid is higher than value received. I.E, there's so much I don't enjoy that it's not worth listening to anymore. It's like American TV! Wading through the bad to get to the good. Especially in a podcast format where I tend to listen while doing something else, it's a pain to skip through the annoying parts. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/19/mansionbet-allowed-vip-gambler-to-bet-redundancy-payout On a moral level it's up to you whether you take money from a company like that. We support a team that takes money from them so none of us are spotless, it's only an argument about the degree of separation. 'The old joke about the man who asks a girl if she will sleep with him for a million dollars. Of course, she says yes. He then offers her two dollars and she slaps his face, saying, ‘What do you think I am?’ He answers, ‘I know what you are. We are just haggling over the price.’ I don't think I want to change your mind, or get you to change the show back so it suits my tastes more, but from the way you sounded you didn't sound comfortable with your decision to accept the betting sponsorship. So that's why I commented. I think you should definitely do what makes you happiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, One Team said: Looking forward to hearing you Dave, don’t you do the other podcast? Yes, @headhunterloaned me out. Two appearances in 24 hours....I need a rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Shtanley said: Episode #109 of OSIB is now out. Josh and @Davefevsjoin me to discuss the win against Exeter. I promise I'm a lot less unbearable than you can imagine considering Antoine's wonder strike! Links and that I'm 10 minutes into the episode and I just wanted to give my take on the contentious betting advertisement. You've got my full support (for what that's worth ha) @Shtanley and OSIB contributors, for the amount of work and commitment you've put into the podcast out of your own time and pocket. I'm actually very pleased in fact that you have been rewarded for that work. Of course people will have their own moral reasons and they are entitled to those but that shouldn't stop you benefiting from the copious hours you've put in. Also I don't get this idea you've become too conjoined with the clubs hierarchy and your now held under moral obligations to not criticise the club, I just feel you have a different take on discussion points that don't fit in with those fans/listeners opinions. Without sounding like my tongue is proverbially up your backside anymore good job and keep these episodes coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedRoss said: I'm 10 minutes into the episode and I just wanted to give my take on the contentious betting advertisement. You've got my full support (for what that's worth ha) @Shtanley and OSIB contributors, for the amount of work and commitment you've put into the podcast out of your own time and pocket. I'm actually very pleased in fact that you have been rewarded for that work. Of course people will have their own moral reasons and they are entitled to those but that shouldn't stop you benefiting from the copious hours you've put in. Ditto that, not precious about it at all. In fact, milk the bastards for all you can get - which would mirror their business ethos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 You've sold your soul Stanley! Na, only joking. Fair play to you mate. If you can make some money out of doing something you love then you've cracked it. You put out some real good content which deserves reward. Living in Oz, you're my go to source for City info. In fact towards the end of last season I was looking forward to the podcasts more than the games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Good for you getting sponsorship. I’ve heard nothing to suggest the podcast is getting too close to the club. Still heard you be critical on commentary Keep up the brilliant level headed podcast. My patreon payments will continue for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Boo! Down with the corporate machine.... I'll take a free bet on us to win the league... Fair play, it must be nice having your own creation that you made out of your love of the club that people respect enough want to offer you £££ for sponsorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Also the other thing I thought about when I woke up was, is it ok for @Shtanley to advertise his business on here for free (if he is)? Even if it is BCFC related? Should you be taking out adverts with the forum and paying some advertising fee? Maybe it should work the way a lot of sub-reddits do. Where the person involved or people involved can't just promote their own content and someone unconnected to the money making venture should link it if they think it's worth discussing. In this case it would be none of the podcast guests. Interested in the supporters trust views on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Prinny said: Also the other thing I thought about when I woke up was, is it ok for @Shtanley to advertise his business on here for free (if he is)? Even if it is BCFC related? Should you be taking out adverts with the forum and paying some advertising fee? Maybe it should work the way a lot of sub-reddits do. Where the person involved or people involved can't just promote their own content and someone unconnected to the money making venture should link it if they think it's worth discussing. In this case it would be none of the podcast guests. Interested in the supporters trust views on this. That’s what you thought about when you woke up?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Prinny said: Also the other thing I thought about when I woke up was, is it ok for @Shtanley to advertise his business on here for free (if he is)? Even if it is BCFC related? Should you be taking out adverts with the forum and paying some advertising fee? Maybe it should work the way a lot of sub-reddits do. Where the person involved or people involved can't just promote their own content and someone unconnected to the money making venture should link it if they think it's worth discussing. In this case it would be none of the podcast guests. Interested in the supporters trust views on this. Jealous much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Badger08 said: Read all that, then noticed you aren't even paying £5 per year to become an OTIB support. Yeah that's why it's not my business but the STs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Jealous much? Not at all. Good luck to him, and the others. I'm not a paying customer of his so my opinions don't really matter to his business. but hey, he did ask for opinions. Edit, actually no, I AM envious that he gets to watch the live games. But I haven't put in any work to deserve that so I'm not going to complain about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, SedRA said: That’s what you thought about when you woke up?! Yeah, don't you ever go to sleep and when you wake up have more to say about something you've been thinking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, Prinny said: Also the other thing I thought about when I woke up was, is it ok for @Shtanley to advertise his business on here for free (if he is)? Even if it is BCFC related? Should you be taking out adverts with the forum and paying some advertising fee? Maybe it should work the way a lot of sub-reddits do. Where the person involved or people involved can't just promote their own content and someone unconnected to the money making venture should link it if they think it's worth discussing. In this case it would be none of the podcast guests. Interested in the supporters trust views on this. Isn’t OSIB a podcast spinoff of OTIB? That’s where it originated from iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Davefevs said: Isn’t OSIB a podcast spinoff of OTIB? That’s where it originated from iirc. I didn't know there was any official link between the two. That's certainly not regularly advertised if it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Good stuff again @Shtanley and great to hear from Josh and @Davefevs As for sponsorship; I’d say if the club are willing to take money from a betting company, struggle to see why you shouldn’t. I’d be lying if I said I was happy personally about the close association between gambling and football, but it is what it is; as Josh said, the pod has come on leaps and bounds, and is down to hard work; getting recognition in the form of sponsorship isn’t something to feel guilty about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, Prinny said: Interested in the supporters trust views on this. Think you'll be disappointed. They won't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Do agree with what you say @Davefevs in that it needs a pro in RobinsTV to round it off a bit. Does it need to be a current pro or one of our players? Surely there would be some ex-city players etc. who still live in the area and love the club who would love a chance to do some commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Isn’t OSIB a podcast spinoff of OTIB? That’s where it originated from iirc. The idea of a Bristol City podcast was originally discussed on here if I remember correctly but ultimately it was the OSIB people who took the plunge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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