steviestevieneville Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Obviously we all hope it’s nothing serious regarding his injury . However it seems it’s his shin again , not sure if it’s the one he broke against Leeds Last season . If ( worst case scenario ) he’s out for as long this season. Do we get someone in as cover , or expect Rowe and Brunt to be good enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 If Brunt has it in him that’d be ideal, with Rowe as cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Holden also considers O’Dowda as LWB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BCFCGav said: If Brunt has it in him that’d be ideal, with Rowe as cover. Agree . Although , like you say has it in him. Very tough position for a 35 year old to play the majority of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Agree . Although , like you say has it in him. Very tough position for a 35 year old to play the majority of games Cafu was doing until nearly 40. Brunt will be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Dean post match: We will see next week, he’s seeing someone next week in London so then we will get a time frame. He has an issue with his shin that he had last season, so not great news of course. We will just have to see on the timescale because it’s hard to say. We need the experts to look at it first hopefully and then we’ll have a bit more news towards the middle-end of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 O’dowda For me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Could Eliasson play LWB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 That's a worry. Was looking for to him and Sessegnon attacking down the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Could Eliasson play LWB ? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 If he’s out longer term, can see us brining in a natural LWB.....this is probably where the Cunningham rumours stem from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: No. He could but not well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 I remember, years ago (early 90s), Liverpool had a RB signed from Crewe - Rob Jones. Absolute quality, and was in the England squad c1992. IIRC he ended up with Shin Splints and had to retire at 27ish. Just couldn’t run a streak of games without it happening. Hope that’s not the case here, but it seems pertinent in view of the injury and reoccurrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Worrying news. My biggest concern about this system is that your wing backs are too defensively minded and/or don’t have the energy levels and pace to play the position correctly. Holden said in his interview the other day that he very much sees it as an attacking formation but It’s a tough role to play and without the right players, it can quickly become a very negative 5-3-2. I appreciate Holden really likes this system but in my opinion, if you don’t have the players available to execute it exactly how you want, then don’t play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Obviously we all hope it’s nothing serious regarding his injury . However it seems it’s his shin again , not sure if it’s the one he broke against Leeds Last season . If ( worst case scenario ) he’s out for as long this season. Do we get someone in as cover , or expect Rowe and Brunt to be good enough ? Seeing as it’s the same issue, maybe we should be looking at a permanent replacement rather than temporary cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Where is Cameron Pring when we need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, cidered abroad said: Where is Cameron Pring when we need him? Tinnion said a few weeks ago that he thought he was ready for the first team squad. Now on loan of course so makeshift left backs it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kibs said: Worrying news. My biggest concern about this system is that your wing backs are too defensively minded and/or don’t have the energy levels and pace to play the position correctly. Holden said in his interview the other day that he very much sees it as an attacking formation but It’s a tough role to play and without the right players, it can quickly become a very negative 5-3-2. I appreciate Holden really likes this system but in my opinion, if you don’t have the players available to execute it exactly how you want, then don’t play it. I think we do have the players to play this system though. I think today we were a little pushed due to numbers to make it work effectively and it verged on square pegs round holes. I actually think we have good wing back options but are light at centre half. Even with Mawson I think we lack depth and quality there with Baker injured. That would be my concern with that system at present, not the wing backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Taylor10 said: I think we do have the players to play this system though. I think today we were a little pushed due to numbers to make it work effectively and it verged on square pegs round holes. I actually think we have good wing back options but are light at centre half. Even with Mawson I think we lack depth and quality there with Baker injured. That would be my concern with that system at present, not the wing backs. Need to see Sessegnon. But with Hunt on the right, and without Dasilva on the left, I think we become too defensive, struggle to get out and go long too quickly. Hunt has good games in him but I still think he is more a right back. Dasilva is superb at receiving it under pressure and in tight spaces. He really adds to the midfield going forward. Difficult to replace and Rowe whilst steady is not the answer. Perhaps Brunt can do a job but he won’t have the energy levels to sustain it for long periods. Leaves O’Dowda I guess. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Where is Cameron Pring when we need him? If he’s a serious contender & JD is out for a while are we able to cancel his loan before the window closes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Holden also considers O’Dowda as LWB too. Holden or Dolman? To be fair if were going to play attacking wing backs then apart from another signing O'Dowda has to be get his chance there. With the 300 midfield players we have it has to be his best chance of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kibs said: Need to see Sessegnon. But with Hunt on the right, and without Dasilva on the left, I think we become too defensive, struggle to get out and go long too quickly. Hunt has good games in him but I still think he is more a right back. Dasilva is superb at receiving it under pressure and in tight spaces. He really adds to the midfield going forward. Difficult to replace and Rowe whilst steady is not the answer. Perhaps Brunt can do a job but he won’t have the energy levels to sustain it for long periods. Leaves O’Dowda I guess. Great. Yeah there is always that risk with JH & JD. natural full backs I guess, not wing backs. I think both have good energy levels though to get us up the pitch, providing we control the midfield it can be effective for us. I cant see Brunt playing as a wing back but you never know with COD. He has been awful for us but maybe DH will get a tune out of him from wing back. I am doubtful mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Red Alert said: If he’s a serious contender & JD is out for a while are we able to cancel his loan before the window closes? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Taylor10 said: Yeah there is always that risk with JH & JD. natural full backs I guess, not wing backs. I think both have good energy levels though to get us up the pitch, providing we control the midfield it can be effective for us. I cant see Brunt playing as a wing back but you never know with COD. He has been awful for us but maybe DH will get a tune out of him from wing back. I am doubtful mind. Hopefully our attempt to control the midfield in the future doesn't include Pats and Andy being part of it. At least not both together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Hopefully our attempt to control the midfield in the future doesn't include Pats and Andy being part of it. At least not both together. Paterson for me is our best option in the 10 role not CM though. Weimann shouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up let alone midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Holden also considers O’Dowda as LWB too. Yes forgot that . Surprised @JonDolmanhasnt pounced only joking Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Taylor10 said: Yeah there is always that risk with JH & JD. natural full backs I guess, not wing backs. I think both have good energy levels though to get us up the pitch, providing we control the midfield it can be effective for us. I cant see Brunt playing as a wing back but you never know with COD. He has been awful for us but maybe DH will get a tune out of him from wing back. I am doubtful mind. It’s also hard to tell when we don’t have anything like our first choice midfield playing isn’t it. I love JD, think he’s superb on his day and due to injuries, I don’t think we’ve seen him anywhere near his best since we signed him permanently. I just think due to his fitness issues, if we are sticking to this system, we could do with a natural backup. And a centre half as you rightly pointed out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, chinapig said: Dean post match: We will see next week, he’s seeing someone next week in London so then we will get a time frame. He has an issue with his shin that he had last season, so not great news of course. We will just have to see on the timescale because it’s hard to say. We need the experts to look at it first hopefully and then we’ll have a bit more news towards the middle-end of next week. Thanks , bit more insight . Like to be positive but difficult as it’s the same injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kibs said: It’s also hard to tell when we don’t have anything like our first choice midfield playing isn’t it. I love JD, think he’s superb on his day and due to injuries, I don’t think we’ve seen him anywhere near his best since we signed him permanently. I just think due to his fitness issues, if we are sticking to this system, we could do with a natural backup. And a centre half as you rightly pointed out! completely agree on JD. Class on his day but for whatever reason he has not reached the levels he did in his first season with us. If we can sign someone to push him then it would definitely benefit us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taylor10 said: completely agree on JD. Class on his day but for whatever reason he has not reached the levels he did in his first season with us. If we can sign someone to push him then it would definitely benefit us. That’s difficult to do if you’re constantly coming back from injury to be fair . He needs a good run of games which he hadn’t had . Let’s hope it’s a short term injury . If not , the club might have to think of buying a new first choice . Hypothetical of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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