Nongazeuse Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Interview in today's Mail (yes I know but my wife buys it) with Graham Carr, father of "comedian" Alan and former manager and scout for various clubs. When he was Chief Scout at Newcastle under Alan Pardew, Carr senior was told that Pardew fancied a new centre forward and showed him a video of Nahki Wells (then at Bradford). Carr's response was "F****ing Hell". Then says "sometimes you have to think how the fans would react. That one never happened." Seems an odd story to tell given Newcastle's feeble last few seasons and some hopeless transfers - Carr persuaded Newcastle to spend £40m on Joelinton (2 goals in a year) and there have been many more poor buys. Whereas Wells has been a consistent scorer ever since - hope we get Newcastle in the Cup and Nahki reads this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 To be fair, newcastle have needed an international class goal scorer since shearer retired, and nakhi wells isnt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nongazeuse said: Seems an odd story to tell given Newcastle's feeble last few seasons and some hopeless transfers - Carr persuaded Newcastle to spend £40m on Joelinton (2 goals in a year) and there have been many more poor buys. Carr left Newcastle in 2017. Actually worked wonders at Newcastle with likes of Cabaye, Cisse, Tiote etc scouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Imagine we were in Newcastle's position and we were looking to Bradford City players to solve our problems. Rightly or wrongly (I would lean on the latter) OTIB would mostly be absolutely incensed. The statement above is oddly specific, but shows how some fanbases need to be taken into account to keep people in jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: To be fair, newcastle have needed an international class goal scorer since shearer retired, and nakhi wells isnt that. 12 goals in 19 international appearances.... although standard of opposition possibly questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongazeuse Posted September 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Selred said: Carr left Newcastle in 2017. Actually worked wonders at Newcastle with likes of Cabaye, Cisse, Tiote etc scouted. Yes he did spot some good players as well especially those three but some other expensive duds eg Riviere. Carr did recommend Joelinton to Mike Ashley last year although he was no longer employed by them according to the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, SBB said: 12 goals in 19 international appearances.... although standard of opposition possibly questionable. He started his career at a club called Dandy Town Hornets is there a better name in football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Still not sure what Alan Carr , whoever he is has to do with this post. So Graham Carr recommended Wells to Pardew who didn’t fancy him. So what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Wells wouldn't have been the solution tbh- how many games did Burnley play him in the PL? Possible he's never had a fair chance at that level though. Joelinton is a strange one- clearly there's a player in there, showed it at Hoffenheim- not £40m worth though! All round contributions at Hoffenheim, reasonable enough in a decent side. Did Newcastle get the best out of varied French players? Debatable! Thauvin is a good example, Reverie not particularly good though. Thauvin however, goal and MOTM according to WhoScored at PSG the other week and has been particularly productive for Marseille in general- Newcastle not so much. If he puts up decent displays in the CL, that'll add to Newcastle's regular failure to get the best out of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said: He started his career at a club called Dandy Town Hornets is there a better name in football ? I've always liked Hearts of Oak in Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, RED4LIFE said: I've always liked Hearts of Oak in Africa Sounds like a pub team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 The word "hate" gets used far too often IMO. It seems Graham Carr didn't fancy signing Wells as a player, nothing to indicate he hates him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scare_Man Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 I read about a team in Uganda recently that plays at the wonderfully named Wankulukuku stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Still not sure what Alan Carr , whoever he is has to do with this post. So Graham Carr recommended Wells to Pardew who didn’t fancy him. So what. You didn't actually read any of the post did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Abraham Romanovich said: He started his career at a club called Dandy Town Hornets is there a better name in football ? I wouldn't have thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, SBB said: 12 goals in 19 international appearances.... although standard of opposition possibly questionable. You also have to take into account who he is playing alongside!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wells wouldn't have been the solution tbh- how many games did Burnley play him in the PL? Possible he's never had a fair chance at that level though. Joelinton is a strange one- clearly there's a player in there, showed it at Hoffenheim- not £40m worth though! All round contributions at Hoffenheim, reasonable enough in a decent side. Did Newcastle get the best out of varied French players? Debatable! Thauvin is a good example, Reverie not particularly good though. Thauvin however, goal and MOTM according to WhoScored at PSG the other week and has been particularly productive for Marseille in general- Newcastle not so much. If he puts up decent displays in the CL, that'll add to Newcastle's regular failure to get the best out of many. The stats guys at Mrkt Insights think he’s a really good player, but that he’s a no10 not a no9, and until he plays there, Newcastle won’t see the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: Still not sure what Alan Carr , whoever he is has to do with this post. So Graham Carr recommended Wells to Pardew who didn’t fancy him. So what. Alan Carr, m’lud, is known as a popular entertainer amongst the hoi polloi, though he has no discernible talent. He is the son of the obscure sporting trainer mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 So, Graham Carr is to football scouts what Alan Carr is to comedians. Is that what we're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Scare_Man said: I read about a team in Uganda recently that plays at the wonderfully named Wankulukuku stadium Bunch of tossers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 A lot easier to say than Ken Dodd's dads dogs dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Nongazeuse said: Interview in today's Mail (yes I know but my wife buys it) with Graham Carr, father of "comedian" Alan and former manager and scout for various clubs. When he was Chief Scout at Newcastle under Alan Pardew, Carr senior was told that Pardew fancied a new centre forward and showed him a video of Nahki Wells (then at Bradford). Carr's response was "F****ing Hell". Then says "sometimes you have to think how the fans would react. That one never happened." Seems an odd story to tell given Newcastle's feeble last few seasons and some hopeless transfers - Carr persuaded Newcastle to spend £40m on Joelinton (2 goals in a year) and there have been many more poor buys. Whereas Wells has been a consistent scorer ever since - hope we get Newcastle in the Cup and Nahki reads this. Why should you have to apologise for buying or reading the the daily mail? I know it's very woke and trendy to do so but as someone who buys it and has done so for 30 odd years I find it strange. I mean I would never think of criticising a person for reading the Guardian, each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Abraham Romanovich said: He started his career at a club called Dandy Town Hornets is there a better name in football ? 10 hours ago, RED4LIFE said: I've always liked Hearts of Oak in Africa Ghana's Premier League has a club name to surpass those... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Coast_Ebusua_Dwarfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 A women who used to live 3 doors down from me, went to jail for stalking ken dodd. Shes still about bedminster now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Knotty ash is along way from Bemie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Can we have some Ken Dodd football related jokes please. How tickled Iam (or would like to be). It could be longer than the gas thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 To be fair, my dad probably hated Alan Carr. Then again, my dad was a whisky-sozzled homophobic Rovers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 7 hours ago, pillred said: Why should you have to apologise for buying or reading the the daily mail? I know it's very woke and trendy to do so but as someone who buys it and has done so for 30 odd years I find it strange. I mean I would never think of criticising a person for reading the Guardian, each to their own. Probably because the Fail is right wing racist trash, but that's a discussion for another forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Works for me. I hate Alan Carr. So all is good with the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: To be fair, my dad probably hated Alan Carr. Then again, my dad was a whisky-sozzled homophobic Rovers fan. I'm none of those things and I can't stand him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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