Distortia Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Your first sentence has most of the answer. In football its due to the simplicity of communication. Names and gamespeak are shortened in an effort to create triggers. Hello Dean Holden can you please apply pressure to the player in possession becomes DEANO PRESS. The former is inefficient as a means of communicating on a football pitch, the latter is far easier for the brain to process via pre frontal cortex and cerebellum to the motor cortex. Unwittingly this process becomes habit forming and an accepted norm. So why not “Dean, Press!” As it’s his name and less syllables to say. Or “Holden, Press!” As it is also his name, with the same amount of syllables as “Deano”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: I dont get why every footballer called Matthew gets called Matty. Ive not once met a bloke called Matthew that goes by Matty rather than Matt. Calling Matt Jansen to the main stage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Try explaining why Warnock is called Colin, as for the life of me I can't even remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Atlanta_Red said: Beats me. Almost as much of a mystery as Bristolians adding an 'L' to the ends of words.... It’s what we dos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Nicknames seem to be the preserve of sportsmen now days, unlike when I was younger when nearly all my mates had nick names,Nizzle,Horse,Pink Pig,Whiskers,Gypo,Fishy,Pinhead etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Distortia said: So why not “Dean, Press!” As it’s his name and less syllables to say. Or “Holden, Press!” As it is also his name, with the same amount of syllables as “Deano”. Because of the element of camaraderie and familiarity. In addition to being more efficient a nickname does convey a sense of a relationship between the name-caller and the object person. 4 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: Nicknames seem to be the preserve of sportsmen now days, unlike when I was younger when nearly all my mates had nick names,Nizzle,Horse,Pink Pig,Whiskers,Gypo,Fishy,Pinhead etc. My mates and I from school/uni basically just refer to everyone by their surname, although I and a couple of others have real nicknames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med/MadHatter Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, David Brent said: Packy....in case anyone was wondering Could of been Packso! Why are so many Smiths called Smudger, Clarks called Nobby, Bakers called Spud? Mine derives from a Devo song and not really suitable in todays parlance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 It’s just informality and familiarity isn’t it? My PE teachers/coaches all called me my surname + “Y”. It just fits doesn’t it? Shouting a name + “Y” or “O” just feels easier than shouting a full first or second name, even though it’s shorter. Plus, it’s just nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: Nicknames seem to be the preserve of sportsmen now days, unlike when I was younger when nearly all my mates had nick names,Nizzle,Horse,Pink Pig,Whiskers,Gypo,Fishy,Pinhead etc. Equally mysterious is when within a group of friends, some have nicknames and others don't: I know the friends of a particular friend of mine by their nicknames (Colonel, Bando and Wack), indeed I have no idea of their real names. By comparison my friend is just called by his actual name. No rhyme or reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jj77 said: What is worse is when the middle classes call it Footy. Is 'footy' middle class? I know all sorts that call it that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Distortia said: So why not “Dean, Press!” As it’s his name and less syllables to say. Or “Holden, Press!” As it is also his name, with the same amount of syllables as “Deano”. It could be. It is not exact. It is general and preference and personal and cultural ownership exist. Like game calls names will not make communication more difficult as football needs easily understandable pictures to be painted in players minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Distortia said: So why not “Dean, Press!” As it’s his name and less syllables to say. Or “Holden, Press!” As it is also his name, with the same amount of syllables as “Deano”. Blame John Barnes. You've got to Holden give, But do it at the right time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Go Mr Coombs!!! Bemmie native…? Not quite but not far off . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Along with One Size Fitz Hall there's the welsh rugby coach Dai Young who is inevitably known as Live Fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 My favourite one from my playing days was a lad who's surname was Chesson. His nickname was Toast then that just changed to Toasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: I dont get why every footballer called Matthew gets called Matty. Ive not once met a bloke called Matthew that goes by Matty rather than Matt. I will have a go at this and hope it makes sense. Football requires a differing mindset. By naming somebody Matty in football and on the field the name is being associated with a footballers mindset. Its called anchoring. Shouting Matty on a pitch at a player triggers a different response and quicker than using Matthew or Matt. If that differing name is used frequently enough and more aggressively the responses are more deeply internalised and the mind will associate it more clearly with its differing role. Matty can behave differently on a pitch to the Mathew off it. Culturally (football) Matthews have become Mattys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, Distortia said: So why not “Dean, Press!” As it’s his name and less syllables to say. Or “Holden, Press!” As it is also his name, with the same amount of syllables as “Deano”. Dean Press and Holden Press sound like publishing houses. Dean was certainly a publishing house (might still be) who used to do the abridged versions of classic novels I used to read as a boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Dean Press and Holden Press sound like publishing houses. Dean was certainly a publishing house (might still be) who used to do the abridged versions of classic novels I used to read as a boy. Holden press sounds like a Cider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Med/MadHatter said: Could of been Packso! Why are so many Smiths called Smudger, Clarks called Nobby, Bakers called Spud? Mine derives from a Devo song and not really suitable in todays parlance Pink Pussycat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 "Freezer" got us out of our seats against Hartlepool. Then Roberts sent us wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolJoe Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, solihull cider red said: So what's the deal with Nagy? Short for Nagerson.... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Deano...Simmo.......Downo.........all great nicknames - bit like Robbo.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Cowshed said: I will have a go at this and hope it makes sense. Football requires a differing mindset. By naming somebody Matty in football and on the field the name is being associated with a footballers mindset. Its called anchoring. Shouting Matty on a pitch at a player triggers a different response and quicker than using Matthew or Matt. If that differing name is used frequently enough and more aggressively the responses are more deeply internalised and the mind will associate it more clearly with its differing role. Matty can behave differently on a pitch to the Mathew off it. Culturally (football) Matthews have become Mattys. Thanks for trying but I don't understand. At least there is some logic to it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Deano...Simmo.......Downo.........all great nicknames - bit like Robbo.......... Thought yours was twato? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Henry said: Thought yours was twato? Tut, tut......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Sniper said: Try explaining why Warnock is called Colin, as for the life of me I can't even remember Neil Warnock is an anagram of Colin W*nker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Why do all substitutes have the nickname "fresh legs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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