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Bristol City v John Terry's Aston Villa - Carabao Cup R3 - Match Day


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So far Moore been poor, outmuscled, misplaced passes and has played some hospital passes to Palmer who has then lost it which has made him look worse IMO.

Rowe might as well not been on the pitch for the 2 goals.

Eliasson and Fammy don't look like they want to be on the pitch

Apart from 2 really nice reverse passes forward, I thought Brunt was quite poor - slowing play down and going backwards.

Semenyo looks good, as does Sess and Nagy.

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Just now, Matthew me said:

Grew into it a bit

Too much space and respect. 

We've made 8 changes, have loads of injuries and villa have been good.

Credit where it's due. 

Let's try and get one back. Who knows fhen

Well said.

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

We are seeing Premier League quality, plus strength and speed of thought.

But Villa are very open too.

Some of the criticism of our players on here is disappointing to see.  Why does there have to blame?

I think it comes from a reluctance to give the opposition credit.

Often it is the same posters who play down decent performances by our own players and will instead say how bad the other side was.

 

I think we got disrupted a bit by the speed Villa started at and struggled to get a footing in the game. 

A superb bit of play by Davis gave El Ghazi a tap in and the second goal was one for a highlights reel.

Since then we have grown into the game, Diedhiou probably should have scored his header but we haven't created loads.

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16 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

This is what worries me about Moore. Love the guy but one min he’s an 8/10 and then a 4/10. He’s given the ball straight to a Villa player around 3 times now. For a ‘ball playing’ CB he isn’t really justifying it. Needs to concentrate on doing the simple things well. 

In fairness though it’s a back 3 without much experience, not much midfield presence in front of them and not much support from Elisson.

Against next level opposition - it was never going to work, was it?
 

Hopefully a regroup at half time, can’t help but think the coaching underestimated the opposition whilst still high off the buzz of a winning start.

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1 minute ago, Matthew me said:

Grew into it a bit

Too much space and respect. 

We've made 8 changes, have loads of injuries and villa have been good.

Credit where it's due. 

Let's try and get one back. Who knows fhen

I agree with that

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Just now, Northern Red said:

Can't be arsed to read back through the thread but I take it we're back to everyone being shit again?

First 15 minutes we were asleep, we've grown into it. Second half will be better i'm sure. Reminds me of the Coventry game 

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Wouldn't read too much into this......neither side is the first 11. 

Plus Villa have spent nearly £200M on players over last two years compared to what we have spent. Bound to be a difference. I would be more worried of it were our first team against another Championship team.

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3 minutes ago, Matthew me said:

Too much space and respect. 

We've made 8 changes, have loads of injuries and villa have been good.

The worst thing we're not impossing ourselves on the game  Villa are a bang average side normally, but have made 11 changes tonight.

Too soft through our middle. 

As for the defending for the goals.....

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Not a good half! Commentary bloody annoying! LINNINGTON usual self - weird decisions advantage does not exist for us, Palmer well he’s Palmer, Fammy trying but not too hard, one of our best attacking players been told he’s a wing back!  We have a new player that’s not been announced - Noyge- anyone know who he is? Is he even eligible?

2nd half is something to look forward to!

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2 minutes ago, Red Alert said:

In fairness though it’s a back 3 without much experience, not much midfield presence in front of them and not much support from Elisson.

Against next level opposition - it was never going to work, was it?
 

Hopefully a regroup at half time, can’t help but think the coaching underestimated the opposition whilst still high off the buzz of a winning start.

Understand the point you are making, but the only way really to not underestimate them was to put out our strongest 11 standing. I can entirely understand why we did not.

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1 minute ago, Top Robin said:

Wouldn't read too much into this......neither side is the first 11. 

Plus Villa have spent nearly £200M on players over last two years compared to what we have spent. Bound to be a difference. I would be more worried of it were our first team against another Championship team.

Over 200m.

Over 140m last season. Over 70m this season.

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I think instead of the usual slagging off of our players , we need to look at villa. They’re far superior in every department. El ghazi really exposed the space between SS & vyner early on . I don’t think we’re helping ourselves with no pressure on the ball at times and our midfield is exposed. We are playing with a couple of players out of position in Rowe and elliasson which I hope dean addresses at half time . Bring Mawson on for Eliasson and move Rowe to wing back .

lets not throw the baby out with the bath water here. We’ve got a lot of injuries and villa are a much better side. 

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1 minute ago, Red Alert said:

In fairness though it’s a back 3 without much experience, not much midfield presence in front of them and not much support from Elisson.

Against next level opposition - it was never going to work, was it?
 

Hopefully a regroup at half time, can’t help but think the coaching underestimated the opposition whilst still high off the buzz of a winning start.

You're focusing on things that I didn't mention. He's had plenty of time to find a red shirt on several occasions but has overplayed and given the ball away on numerous occasions. Vyner has found his passes most of the time, even Rowe has. It's the other stuff that Rowe has struggled with. 

I'm only bringing this up as people bang on about him being a ball carrying CB, but he's not showing it so far. He just needs to stand up and be counted tonight, which is what I'd expect from anyone who captains Bristol City against Premier League opponents in a cup game.

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Palmer getting moved off the ball to easily. Need to do something in midfield as we are getting passed by a bit too much.
 

For me they’ve obviously been better but few we are a bit hard done by to be two down...no way he meant that second goal, weak foot, looked a bit embarrassed, so perhaps a bit unlucky from our point of view.

 

Fam missing the target when he should score again...love the bloke but...gets a bit repetitive.

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Villa have been very, very good. We won't be playing the likes of them very often (if at all) in the Championship. It's a bit premature to write off players on the basis of being outclassed by a Prem team. Anyway, I'm going to bed. Hopefully, that will remove a jinx. COYR!

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First 45 minutes thoughts.

Don't get too high over games vs Northampton, don't get too low on games vs Villa.

Moore has a half second processing speed error. And it keeps showing up. If you do not understand why LJ did not want him making those mistakes for us. Just look. There's a player there, but his mind is going to stop him getting to where his ability and physique could take him.

Semenyo is showing real talent in flashes but it's inconsistent. Tinnion said he's back to his Newport loan form. He flashed talent against premier league sides then too. But it hasn't translated into consistency yet. Exciting but not there yet. 

Rowe isn't a Premier League centre back. And we don't usually ask him to be. Bakinson made league two players look like children, the Villa players dwarf Rowe. Don't be too angry at our back up left back/left wing back who is fine in that role.

Villa are bigger and quicker than us, and with the money they spent, you'd expect them to be. They're not our weekly competition though. So you know, don't get too upset over this.

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Just now, Kingswoodactor said:

You're focusing on things that I didn't mention. He's had plenty of time to find a red shirt on several occasions but has overplayed and given the ball away on numerous occasions. Vyner has found his passes most of the time, even Rowe has. It's the other stuff that Rowe has struggled with. 

I'm only bringing this up as people bang on about him being a ball carrying CB, but he's not showing it so far. He just needs to stand up and be counted tonight, which is what I'd expect from anyone who captains Bristol City against Premier League opponents in a cup game.

Can also be because we are 2 down and he's trying to force a way back and overplaying.

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5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Can't be arsed to read back through the thread but I take it we're back to everyone being shit again?

It’s getting confusing but I think this is our B Side scapegoats


According to the analysts on here

Rowe is *****

and Elliasson is ‘gash’ and should be given away for free

 

 

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