Alan Dicks Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Not a bad loan this for James, joins Owura Edwards there who is playing first team football up there at only 19, just a shame about the manager though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Rovers must be delighted that they've burned bridges with us (after Matty Taylor) and delighted that they've refused to have any more transfer dealings between the 2 clubs. Idiots..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Rovers must be delighted that they've burned bridges with us (after Matty Taylor) and delighted that they've refused to have any more transfer dealings between the 2 clubs. Idiots..! Totally agree, the players we’ve loaned out each season would walk into their first team and improve it. In Wally they trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Yeah but according to Sag fans on asschat they wouldn't want to help develop our players. Personally think going to them would hinder our youngsters progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Sorry, but I don't see how a loan to a dire LG2 club managed by a bloke I wouldn't trust to make me a cup of tea is a good move Are we really happy that skelator is basically developing our young talent Some of us have long memories. He's done nothing but hate us and knock us Why help him? Why trust him with our players??? Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Yeah but according to Sag fans on asschat they wouldn't want to help develop our players. Personally think going to them would hinder our youngsters progress. Better than Grimsby!!!! It's a dump, they're skint, bottom of the league, and skelator is the boss At least if they were in Bristol they could remain part of the set up in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Matthew me said: Better than Grimsby!!!! It's a dump, they're skint, bottom of the league, and skelator is the boss At least if they were in Bristol they could remain part of the set up in some way The reason it may not be good to go to the Sags is if our players have poor games they will get more abuse than other loan players from those muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: He's helping us as much as we are helping him. We don't seem to get many loans wrong, so I trust Tinman on this one. Hope you're right Sir..... Just grates me that skelator is the chosen one to grow our gems. Anyone but him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matthew me said: Sorry, but I don't see how a loan to a dire LG2 club managed by a bloke I wouldn't trust to make me a cup of tea is a good move Are we really happy that skelator is basically developing our young talent Some of us have long memories. He's done nothing but hate us and knock us Why help him? Why trust him with our players??? Madness And your credentials to make these judgements are...? Think I'll put my trust in Brian Tinnion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Matthew me said: Hope you're right Sir..... Just grates me that skelator is the chosen one to grow our gems. Anyone but him... I can understand your fears but Holloway does improve players. Jason Roberts. DJ Campbell. Did he not pick Eze when at QPR. I would trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, View from the Dolman said: And your credentials to make these judgements are...? Think I'll put my trust in Brian Tinnion here. It's not credentials. It's an opinion. I'm allowed to have one! I don't see how you can be happy with skelator being the man to coach our gems. He's an absolute nightmare. I can think of many better options! Why help someone that has openly taken steps to slate us? Someone that talks utter rubbish and seems to spend the majority of the time spouting junk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Busterrimes said: I can understand your fears but Holloway does improve players. Jason Roberts. DJ Campbell. Did he not pick Eze when at QPR. I would trust him. Scares the life out of me It's a very different world now. Grimsby bottom of the league,broke, and managed by him. He genuinely not seeing any of that as a good fit for a young player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Morton to Edwards the new Tinnion to Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Good loan for him if true (haven't seen anything confirmed yet). Should get most of the season along with Edwards and Holloway does have a record of developing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew me said: Sorry, but I don't see how a loan to a dire LG2 club managed by a bloke I wouldn't trust to make me a cup of tea is a good move Are we really happy that skelator is basically developing our young talent Some of us have long memories. He's done nothing but hate us and knock us Why help him? Why trust him with our players??? Madness He knows the game and I actually think could be a decent influence on young players , in terms of attitude , if not technically Wasn’t a bad midfielder tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew me said: It's not credentials. It's an opinion. I'm allowed to have one! I don't see how you can be happy with skelator being the man to coach our gems. He's an absolute nightmare. I can think of many better options! Why help someone that has openly taken steps to slate us? Someone that talks utter rubbish and seems to spend the majority of the time spouting junk? So in summary: you know better than Brian Tinnion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Rovers must be delighted that they've burned bridges with us (after Matty Taylor) and delighted that they've refused to have any more transfer dealings between the 2 clubs. Idiots..! We tried to loan them Adelakun last week. Thankfully he chose Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 No time at all for Holloway but this makes sense. James has absolutely no chance of getting near the bench in BS3 so some League Two football will do him some good & he joins a club where he already knows a team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I can understand honest banter with Holloway but have never understood the animosity towards him. As a boy from East Bristol its hardly surprising he supported and then played for the SAGS. Loyal to the club he supported he was passionate about playing for them and not surprisingly took delight when City were beaten. We take as much delight when the SAGS lose. Whatever people think of him he's proven himself to be a decent manager and I have no trouble trusting Morton and Edwards to his care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: So in summary: you know better than Brian Tinnion. No, in summary, it's MY opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Rovers must be delighted that they've burned bridges with us (after Matty Taylor) and delighted that they've refused to have any more transfer dealings between the 2 clubs. Idiots..! Don’t think that is quite the situation as Adelukan could have gone to the Gas. He sensibly chose Hull, but the opportunity was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Matthew me said: No, in summary, it's MY opinion And an opinion based on blind prejudice. See Graham’s view above, for comparison. He also dislikes IH, for whatever reason, but can acknowledge that and set it to one side to arrive at a balanced perspective on the issue. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: And an opinion based on blind prejudice. See Graham’s view above, for comparison. He also dislikes IH, for whatever reason, but can acknowledge that and set it to one side to arrive at a balanced perspective on the issue. Grow up. It's hardly blind prejudice. That would insinuate a lack of clarity or vision. Holloway has provided ample opportunity to observe from afar. His track record of complete meltdowns and eventual fall outs are as inevitable as day follows night I can acknowledge he was a reasonable player and certainly displayed passion in abundance. However, my concerns relate to the double standards of this man slating our club, fans and achievements , then coming cap in hand to take our starlets for his benefit. Only further augments my opinion of the man. A very unstable and volatile character who now has to nurture two of our own. I'd have been far happier with a loan to another Lg2 side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Matthew me said: It's hardly blind prejudice. That would insinuate a lack of clarity or vision. Holloway has provided ample opportunity to observe from afar. His track record of complete meltdowns and eventual fall outs are as inevitable as day follows night I can acknowledge he was a reasonable player and certainly displayed passion in abundance. However, my concerns relate to the double standards of this man slating our club, fans and achievements , then coming cap in hand to take our starlets for his benefit. Only further augments my opinion of the man. A very unstable and volatile character who now has to nurture two of our own. I'd have been far happier with a loan to another Lg2 side You can try to justify it as much as you like, but most sensible members of OTIB will regard these tedious rants about particular clubs, players or managers as childish, tiresome and pathetic, and what you fail to realise is that they say far more about you than they ever can about the individual they refer to. All you achieve by it in the long run is a reputation as someone whose posts are not respected or taken seriously, but rather either ignored or regarded with something bordering on contempt. Give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: You can try to justify it as much as you like, but most sensible members of OTIB will regard these tedious rants about particular clubs, players or managers as childish, tiresome and pathetic, and what you fail to realise is that they say far more about you than they ever can about the individual they refer to. All you achieve by it in the long run is a reputation as someone whose posts are not respected or taken seriously, but rather either ignored or regarded with something bordering on contempt. Give it a rest. I don't need to justify my opinion. Likewise, you don't need to justify yours. That's the beauty of a discussion forum. It's opinion It does however sound as if you're quite concerned about how others view your posts and how your reputation is built. I'd rather talk openly and share my opinion, come what may. I don't have tedious rants about players or clubs in general. I just don't see a strong argument to pass two young starlets to a club that is in crisis ( chairman of Grimsby asking for the season to be cancelled ) who are bottom of the league, and managed by a fella that openly hates us. Appears you've missed the salient issues of sending players to a crisis club. Holloway has been a volatile character for many years. A call from grace that's taken him from a Prem manager to the bottom club in lg2. Sounds like a great idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Busterrimes said: The reason it may not be good to go to the Sags is if our players have poor games they will get more abuse than other loan players from those muppets. 2 reasons: 1) We should always want Rovers relegated so should never give them use of one of our players who may help them improve their league position. 2) We should never forget or forgive the abysmal treatment John Akinde received from their fans when he went there on loan as a young City player. Disgraceful -never again as far as I'm concerned, and I'd hope the club see things that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 As for Hollowhead/Grimsby, it's strange to me to choose to send a young player on loan to a club about as far away as it could be (230 miles) so I can only assume it's because Hollowhead is the manager, and therefore the club must, despite everything he's said about us over the decades, somehow have a positive relationship with him. Ex- gas manager Clarke at Walsall also seems to be a favourite for loans, although geographically, at least, you can see the sense in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Has Morton gone on loan to Grimsby? I'm beginning to wonder. There is nothing on the City official site, not even as far as I can see on their social media platforms of Facebook and Twitter, which seems to be their preference for reporting these days, and there also seems confusion at the Grimsby end among their local press. Has he not gone because they reported a Covid case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: 2) We should never forget or forgive the abysmal treatment John Akinde received from their fans when he went there on loan as a young City player. What happened with Akinde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 18 hours ago, Matthew me said: Sorry, but I don't see how a loan to a dire LG2 club managed by a bloke I wouldn't trust to make me a cup of tea is a good move Are we really happy that skelator is basically developing our young talent Some of us have long memories. He's done nothing but hate us and knock us Why help him? Why trust him with our players??? Madness But while Holloway is managing this club, surely he would want the best for his current club as his job is on the line? If he was to just bring players in & pay their wages while not trying to improve his current club it would be detrimental to his current employment & any future jobs he maybe in the running for & I can’t even see him being so bitchy as to put his livelihood on the line for a petty feud. He’s openly admitted that we are well run & heading in the right direction, so why wouldn’t he want any help that’s on offer, regardless of where it’s coming from. Grimsby aren’t exactly in a position where that can refuse all help on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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