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Dean Holden and his Three Lions visit

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20 minutes ago, phantom said:

The party the week before was before the latest restrictions came in.

Nothing wrong with shaking hands with people in your group etc

Possible that I am looking at a different few photos to what you have seen.

The one's I have seen, the people are sat down (don't have to wear masks), the others are outside with just DH, again a mask doesn't have to be worn

You probably want to have a read of the coronavirus thread, have a look at how the deaths and new cases are dropping and that the predictions the Government people gave last week are going in the opposite direction. Also to realise what restrictions are in place in a pub, and that those restrictions don't apply outside the pub - but lets not debate this as we all know how nuts those rules are

Thanks to the replies above though, we are "singing from the same song sheet" but have a feeling we are looking at different pictures.

I wonder what would happen if Klopp walked into The Arkells tonight?

Firstly you shouldn't be making physical contact with others outside your household, including shaking hands.

Secondly there is literally pictures of a gentleman with his hands on Deanos face. 

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Mr Popodopolous

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21 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

You’re so overdramatic about absolutely anything.

 

Jury is out- let's wait and see.

IF there is somehow a spike of Covid cases within our squad- I assume Championship clubs still do the testing arrangements as usual, any idea @Davefevs then yes it would be.

Covid-19 has an incubation period of anything up to 14 days so we don't know- and yes given it was club sanctioned or may have been as I read on here that Matt Parsons was there, then if that scenario came to pass it would pose problems. As it stands though, it's fine but we don't know. It's potentially too early to say.

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26 minutes ago, phantom said:

The party the week before was before the latest restrictions came in.

Nothing wrong with shaking hands with people in your group etc

Possible that I am looking at a different few photos to what you have seen.

The one's I have seen, the people are sat down (don't have to wear masks), the others are outside with just DH, again a mask doesn't have to be worn

You probably want to have a read of the coronavirus thread, have a look at how the deaths and new cases are dropping and that the predictions the Government people gave last week are going in the opposite direction. Also to realise what restrictions are in place in a pub, and that those restrictions don't apply outside the pub - but lets not debate this as we all know how nuts those rules are

Thanks to the replies above though, we are "singing from the same song sheet" but have a feeling we are looking at different pictures.

I wonder what would happen if Klopp walked into The Arkells tonight?

Social distancing has been in pubs since they reopened so no change there, I'm fairly sure physical contact isn't recommended and Dean Holden definitely isn't in that many support bubbles! 

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Holden wins games and support of fans
Fair play to the Bristol City head coach Dean Holden. Eyebrows were raised when the former assistant stepped up to replace Lee Johnson. It is early days but City fans will be enjoying his work, with the Robins sitting top of the Championship. Holden is delivering off the field, too. A detailed, uplifting interview with BBC Radio Bristol helped win over some supporters, as did visiting a local pub for a socially distanced chat. It’s good, easy PR, of course, but those who know Holden talk of a genuine character.

Monday's Times- Henry Winter column. Apologies if already posted/mentioned.

On a general note, Henry Winter quite likes us doesn't he?

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Cannot comment on Saturday. But was drinking in the lions on Friday and the Covid restrictions were in place and followed strictly. Sat at a table with the barmaid bringing the drinks to the table. Had to wear face mask once we left table . It’s a fantastic pub with some excitable people which it seems unfortunately some may have over stepped the mark. Cider and the manager of the club now top of the championship will get people excited. Human nature in these unnatural times 

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

The party the week before was before the latest restrictions came in.

Nothing wrong with shaking hands with people in your group etc

Possible that I am looking at a different few photos to what you have seen.

The one's I have seen, the people are sat down (don't have to wear masks), the others are outside with just DH, again a mask doesn't have to be worn

You probably want to have a read of the coronavirus thread, have a look at how the deaths and new cases are dropping and that the predictions the Government people gave last week are going in the opposite direction. Also to realise what restrictions are in place in a pub, and that those restrictions don't apply outside the pub - but lets not debate this as we all know how nuts those rules are

Thanks to the replies above though, we are "singing from the same song sheet" but have a feeling we are looking at different pictures.

I wonder what would happen if Klopp walked into The Arkells tonight?

Ah yea, of course social distancing only came into effect this week.

 

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59 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Cannot comment on Saturday. But was drinking in the lions on Friday and the Covid restrictions were in place and followed strictly. Sat at a table with the barmaid bringing the drinks to the table. Had to wear face mask once we left table . It’s a fantastic pub with some excitable people which it seems unfortunately some may have over stepped the mark. Cider and the manager of the club now top of the championship will get people excited. Human nature in these unnatural times 

It's very evident from this thread those people that have not experienced the venue or others of the same nature, and as a result don't understand the guidelines.

I've said enough now on this topic.

 

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Alan Dicks' Barmy Army

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Only on OTIB could our support turn a massive positive into a negative. 

A few above could do well to educate themselves on the differences between indoor and outdoor guidelines, as it's clear those who listen to the Daily Mail headlines and those who know what they mean...

Clearly too many don't actually understand Government guidelines, but I suppose Boris was confused today so maybe we should give people some slack?

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29 minutes ago, phantom said:

It's very evident from this thread those people that have not experienced the venue or others of the same nature, and as a result don't understand the guidelines.

I've said enough now on this topic.

 

From the person who said shaking hands within your group is acceptable in a pub I'd say you don't understand the guidelines ?

25 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Only on OTIB could our support turn a massive positive into a negative. 

A few above could do well to educate themselves on the differences between indoor and outdoor guidelines, as it's clear those who listen to the Daily Mail headlines and those who know what they mean...

Clearly too many don't actually understand Government guidelines, but I suppose Boris was confused today so maybe we should give people some slack?

Please enlighten the masses on these indoor guidelines that don't involve social distancing (2m or 1m + with mitigations)?!

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6 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Yes it is extreme. As is calling it a "PR disaster" and saying "the club are refusing to take it seriously"

What do you want them to do?

Maybe explain that he should not be shaking hands with people in a pub!

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30 minutes ago, !james said:

From the person who said shaking hands within your group is acceptable in a pub I'd say you don't understand the guidelines ?

Just to clarify you are saying that someone in the same bubble can't shake hands?

You really haven't read the guidelines, your referencing the usual headlines 

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Maybe explain that he should not be shaking hands with people in a pub!

I hope he completed the track and trace form.

I'd hate that you found out if he didn't 

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3 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Just to clarify you are saying that someone in the same bubble can't shake hands?

You really haven't read the guidelines, your referencing the usual headlines 

I hope he completed the track and trace form.

I'd hate that you found out if he didn't 

Nope not saying that. Numerous photos of Dean Holden shaking hands with people who aren't in his bubble isn't in the guidelines - just checking at Phantom seems to think that's okay... 

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People seem to become incredibly dishonest when it's someone they know and like. Say like your friends, or the manager who's doing well, or the pub you drink at who you like the owners and staff of...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

2.1 Can I visit people indoors?

Yes. When meeting with people you don’t live with you can socialise in groups of up to 6. This is a legal limit. If your household (and/or support bubble) is larger than 6 people, you can gather together.

You should continue to maintain social distancing with anyone you do not live with.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing

3. Rules in other venues and activities

As well as the exemptions above, venues following COVID-19 Secure guidelines will be able to continue to host more people in total – such as religious services in places of worship – but no one should mix in a group of greater than 6. This includes places like a pub, shop, leisure venue, restaurant or place of worship. When you visit one of these places you should:

follow the limits on the number of other people you should meet with as a group – no more than 6 people unless you all live together (or are in the same support bubble)

avoid social interaction with anyone outside the group you are with, even if you see other people you know

ensure that at least one person in your group provides their contact details to the organiser so that you can be contacted if needed by the NHS Test and Trace programme. Checking in using the official NHS QR code is a quick and easy alternative.

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28 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Aint that the truth.

Obviously not.

Just now, Andy082005 said:

Wow. This thread is something else ?

some of the OTT reactions on here 

You've been and gone and done it now.

Another 6 pages incoming saying the same thing over and over again.

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2 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

There are some people seriously outraged that a bloke has gone to the pub for a beer.

 Jesus wept 

As long as it was before 10pm it’s ok 
 

 

If you can't see why people have issues with it then you're just as bad. Jesus wept, get a grip, OTT etc etc 

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15 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

There are some people seriously outraged that a bloke has gone to the pub for a beer.

 Jesus wept 

As long as it was before 10pm it’s ok 
 

 

I can't speak for anyone else but that's a very simplistic take. I'm not at all outraged but...

  1. Someone at that pub with whom he came into close contact is unknowingly asymptomatic- a lot of people are!
  2. Holden is in close contact with players on a matchday and in training.
  3. Once again, the spread could be asymptomatic- this virus spreads asymptomatically to quite a decent level.
  4. Matt Parsons was there apparently- the club was on board.

Given that there is an incubation period of 2-14 days is some of the following not possible:

  1. Sometime within the period from Sunday 27th September 2020-Sunday 10th October 2020, there is an outbreak of Covid amongst the squad.
  2. Asymptomatic and likely not particularly harmful but an outbreak all the same.
  3. We are significantly weakened on the pitch for the period of self-isolation that would be required.
  4. See point 4 of the first bit- club were on board, therefore club are liable to an extent.
  5. EFL and Governing bodies given the stringent requirements would be right on our case.

See Genoa, someone cited 14 players there got Covid in that squad, see closer to home Leyton Orient- 17 players apparently! Forfeited tie vs Tottenham, match postponed vs Walsall and face two charges potentially by the EFL.

Chances are all will be okay but it's not a given.

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3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Jury is out- let's wait and see.

IF there is somehow a spike of Covid cases within our squad- I assume Championship clubs still do the testing arrangements as usual, any idea @Davefevs then yes it would be.

Covid-19 has an incubation period of anything up to 14 days so we don't know- and yes given it was club sanctioned or may have been as I read on here that Matt Parsons was there, then if that scenario came to pass it would pose problems. As it stands though, it's fine but we don't know. It's potentially too early to say.

We are testing once a week, on a Tuesday I think.  The EFL protocol is no longer twice weekly.

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