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Joe Morrell - Perm to Luton Confirmed (Merged)


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2 hours ago, Matthew me said:

Been saying for a while, I don't get the hype.

All the analytics doesn't change the fact DH doesn't rate him

Luton or a LG1 team feels about right 

Good luck Joe if you're on your way. All the best 👍

@Matthew me oddly there are a couple of people on OTIB that seem overly sensitive and obsessed with making him into a player he isn't yet

2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

You said you haven't watched him play much and have been critical of others for being too positive about Morrell without watching him play much either. Applying your own logic, how can you say the above?

Because he has consistently only done it lower league sides.

No matter how many stats your co-pilot shares won't make him look any better than he is

Personally think it is good business all round

Morrell can now get settled at a permanent club and settle where he is wanted

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Why every time when we sell a player that’s come through the academy people act like we have just sold a future ballon d’or winner. Time will tell if it’s the right call but he wasn’t going to play here because we have a lot better so good luck to him. 

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Speculation online appears to be anywhere between £200,000 - £1m, for me Joe could easily be worth a lot more this time next year if he has a good Euros so seems a strange decision to sell rather than loan to Luton unless Joe has explicitly said he wants to leave permanently. Given the fact Pato and Walsh are out of contract at the end of the season we've surely got to have them all but signed for extensions to allow Joe to leave. Losing all 3 in 12 months for all but nothing would be a disaster.

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4 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

So silly. Anyway, as you get older normally they hang lower. Maybe a benefit to living in Sweden i dont know

When you get to my age they don't hang at all but just scrape in the gravel

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22 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

@Matthew me oddly there are a couple of people on OTIB that seem overly sensitive and obsessed with making him into a player he isn't yet

Where? I haven't seen that at all. Just a few people that have watched him play who've provided feedback and stats.. and the others who thought maybe they'd get a good look at him this season. Haven't seen anyone 'overly sensitive' or even 'obsessed' with bigging him up.

22 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Because he has consistently only done it lower league sides.

Luton Town are in our league, so that doesn't work as a counter point.

22 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

No matter how many stats your co-pilot shares won't make him look any better than he is

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22 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Personally think it is good business all round

Morrell can now get settled at a permanent club and settle where he is wanted

I think if the fee is 7 figures and potentially wipes out some of the Bakinson sell on then yes. You never want to keep an unhappy player around, and if he's left to get games then good luck to him. We have a lot of competition in his role and couldn't guarantee him games that he'd need to push on with his career.

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1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

Good luck Joe, had promising moments when he did play for us, but I don't think he is a top end Championship player. Better options at the club already.

This is certainly a view point I share.

I like Fam and think he is a solid player at this level, but I don’t think he is ‘top end’ and if we have true ambition we always needed something better. 

Perhaps the club feel the same way about Joe? 

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Good move for Joe.  He needs games to develop.  

Sad to see a homegrown player like him leave, bit probably for the best for all parties. 

Definitely a victim of the scattergun approach to recruitment i.e.  buy up and coming talent and figure out what to do with them later.  

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37 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Just a few people that have watched him play who've provided feedback and stats.. and the others who thought maybe they'd get a good look at him this season. Haven't seen anyone 'overly sensitive' or even 'obsessed' with bigging him up.

Luton Town are in our league, so that doesn't work as a counter point.

I think if the fee is 7 figures and potentially wipes out some of the Bakinson sell on then yes.

I've not read anyone on here that has seen him play for Cheltenham or Lincoln. 

Oh come on there have been plenty bigging him up, just read through the comments discussing what a loss he will be.

Luton aren't Championship standard, fully expect them to be battling to stay up

7 figure fee, you're having a laugh. 

Completely unproven at this level, those more ITK are quoting nearer £200k

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Just now, bristolcitysweden said:

We’ve had open and honest conversations since my appointment and he felt this was something he wanted to pursue. 

Bullshit.

You are stuck in Sweden aNd have hardly seen the guy play. The management and coaching team work with him EVERY DAY. He wants first team football, he can get it in Luton's much smaller squad. The statement is not bullshit, which you should be able to recognise as it makes up 99% of your posts.

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1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

You are stuck in Sweden aNd have hardly seen the guy play. The management and coaching team work with him EVERY DAY. He wants first team football, he can get it in Luton's much smaller squad. The statement is not bullshit, which you should be able to recognise as it makes up 99% of your posts.

They left out the part where Dean mentioned they'd had a conversation about how much game time he was likely to get and thats where the wanting to pursue the Luton idea came from.

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1 hour ago, Prinny said:

Totally fine with him going.

Think he'll be a good champ player, but he doesn't fit our current system and is unlikely to be a first team player for us.

He's 23, time to go play football for a team that wants you. Bakinson's 21, and ahead of him, Williams is 23 with a year and half of good championship games behind him, Walsh is 23 and "a big part of the way we want to play" Massengo is 19 and has more championship experience, and when Joe Morrell was 19 he was coming off failed loans to Sutton and Margate.

Watching him for Wales, he's a neat and tidy continuity player, an organiser, a disciplined trustworthy player for Giggs, but that's it IMO. He cannot play in the Prem with his size speed and lack of USPs to use a Johnsonism. Players have an opportunity every day in training, and every second they're out on loan. Holden's been really good SO FAR with his analysis on players so I'm pretty comfortable with this decision.

I think it's good for Joe who'll want first team football as he mentioned in that BBC interview, and it's good that someone came in and offered us something for a player who's low in the pecking order here, who's behind at least three players either his age or younger than him.

We already have players who can do what he can do. For those whining he hasn't had a chance, you get your chances every day. Every time you play on loan. How do you think Bakinson got a shot? By performing. Morrell was training with us for months at the end of last season. Walsh impressed enough, Moore impressed enough, those were both players out on loan and who came back to train with us who got the exact same shot Morrell did.

So totally fine with this. Hope he does well in his career except against us, time for him to move on, time for us to move him on. All good IMO.

Good summary of the current situation.

1 hour ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Finally a sensible voice.

Hilarious the replies of many on OTIB

Oh my, what an odd response.

Perfect example of someone seeing something in him that he hasn't ever done

and look where he is now

I disagree, it is exactly like Wes Burns, in that at the time many were talking about him as the future of our club, yet was never setting the world alight anywhere

Unless you are related this is a really unhealthy and concerning reaction from an adult

But would explain your obsession with trying to make him look better with all those numerous charts and screenshots

Bad day hun?

 

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6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

You are stuck in Sweden aNd have hardly seen the guy play. The management and coaching team work with him EVERY DAY. He wants first team football, he can get it in Luton's much smaller squad. The statement is not bullshit, which you should be able to recognise as it makes up 99% of your posts.

I have seen Joe play for Cheltenham, I have seen Joe play for Lincoln, I have seen Joe play for Bristol City, I have seen Joe play for Wales

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DH has been making noises about Walsh being a key player when fit. Wouldn't surprise me though if he also went tomorrow. If we need to move more midfielders out he's one you would think would be easier to sell. 

I'm sure Deano would find a way to spin it - e.g. contract negotiations took a turn for the worst 

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Best of luck to Morrell. Sadly he seems to have matured at just the wrong time for our team.

But this is yet another example of the Bristol City academy successfully developing a boy into a young man who is making a successful career in the football league. Not every academy player can play for us, and for me the pathway is just as viable if it simply leads to a young person having a successful career.

In years to come we will see if he's one that got away, or if we perhaps made the right choice.

For now we can all just wish him well.

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