Mr Popodopolous Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 14/08/2020 at 12:33, Prinny said: So I assume that's not allowed for that reason. If that was possible there'd be no reason for clubs to sell their stadiums to themselves etc when the owner could simply buy one advertising board for £30 million or whatever. I'm guessing that we didn't take revenue for the Centreline advert, and that it was probably there because we couldn't sell all of our advertising space due to lack of interest because Covid etc. It is allowed, provided it is at Fair Market Value. In other words, what it would or could realistically be gained on the Open Market- could argue our profile has grown a bit since 2018 so it might get an uptick on Dunder but not by anything huge or gamechanging IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 14/08/2020 at 12:45, jj77 said: Um.............Etihad Airways? UEFA botched that somewhat- should have referred for sanctions in 2014, same with PSG! Maybe as the rules were in their early stages, they let certain things go a bit- both signed Settlement Agreements, both adhered to Settlement Agreements so UEFA reopening the old case was on shaky ground legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 May as well ask, the Dunder sponsorship- was it just two years then? Reports at the time were't clear about length of contract etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibdenred Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: May as well ask, the Dunder sponsorship- was it just two years then? Reports at the time were't clear about length of contract etc. Yes. 2 Year Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thanks. Dunder were- our principal International Partner too- in fact according to the site, our only International Partner! Wonder how much it was worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: Mansion? 6 hours ago, Dibdenred said: Think big. .........Castle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Davefevs said: Yup & the university has been sponsoring their academy for years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Murraysrightplum said: I think you may be confusing Yazz with Yazoo there chief What’s your cut-off point?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Gone with a different betting firm then this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Mansion bet just announced on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 New signing, new sponsor, new away shirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/calvinayre.com/2020/06/01/business/uk-gambling-regulator-probing-m88-mansion-europe/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said: New signing, new sponsor, new away shirt... Bristol City FC (@BristolCity) Tweeted: #BristolCity can confirm the signing of Joe Williams on a four-year contract. Read more: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 15/08/2020 at 00:24, TBW said: I hope it's a different betting company so you can all get your hopes up and then f---ing moan about it all over again. :laugh: you're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 good to see us take the high ground on this betting company sponsorship business..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, !james said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/calvinayre.com/2020/06/01/business/uk-gambling-regulator-probing-m88-mansion-europe/amp/ Classic case of better the devil you know for those that wanted rid of Dunder. A relatively small Scandinavian gaming startup run by (to my knowledge) decent people, replaced by a murky far East betting platform with a poor history of compliance with local laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Olé said: Classic case of better the devil you know for those that wanted rid of Dunder. A relatively small Scandinavian gaming startup run by (to my knowledge) decent people, replaced by a murky far East betting platform with a poor history of compliance with local laws. ‘Decent people’ :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Olé said: Classic case of better the devil you know for those that wanted rid of Dunder. A relatively small Scandinavian gaming startup run by (to my knowledge) decent people, replaced by a murky far East betting platform with a poor history of compliance with local laws. Agreed mate, not that happy with this but Dunder were probably the least worst. Unfortunately gambling organisations seem to dominate sport sponsorship at the moment; I get it from their perspective but would much rather something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 So how many of us ever logged on to Dundee, even just out of curiosity, let alone to set up an account and deposit funds..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: So how many of us ever logged on to Dundee, even just out of curiosity, let alone to set up an account and deposit funds..? Prefer Dundee United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: So how many of us ever logged on to Dundee, even just out of curiosity, let alone to set up an account and deposit funds..? Think it was more about brand awareness rather than traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, !james said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/calvinayre.com/2020/06/01/business/uk-gambling-regulator-probing-m88-mansion-europe/amp/ it's disappointing to say the least to see that on the back of other organisations and clubs deciding to drop this company from sponsorship,(for what appear to be very good reasons) we have clearly thought 'aaah **** it' and signed them on - doesn't send out a great message about our moral compass (!) , but then perhaps the club don't give a shit when the money is (probably) good. maybe next time we approach the Saudi Royal family or a munitions company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 For those questioning the morals behind the use of a gambling company as shirt sponsorship are forgetting (or might be too young to remember) that back in the 80s, you couldn't move for tobacco sponsorship at Ashton Gate. Until it's banned and until a more ethical sponsor paying the same money is ready to step in to fill the void, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Antman said: it's disappointing to say the least to see that on the back of other organisations and clubs deciding to drop this company from sponsorship,(for what appear to be very good reasons) we have clearly thought 'aaah **** it' and signed them on - doesn't send out a great message about our moral compass (!) , but then perhaps the club don't give a shit when the money is (probably) good. maybe next time we approach the Saudi Royal family or a munitions company? Plenty of laser guided weaponry being built in Bristol - sounds like a good idea on further thinking! Never mind a ball in the D, the half time community activity could include incinerating volunteers from 10,000ft in front of the Lansdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: For those questioning the morals behind the use of a gambling company as shirt sponsorship are forgetting (or might be too young to remember) that back in the 80s, you couldn't move for tobacco sponsorship at Ashton Gate. Until it's banned and until a more ethical sponsor paying the same money is ready to step in to fill the void, it is what it is. i certainly can remember the ubiquitous tobacco advertising everywhere! but is there not a question of taking a (moral) lead on this, rather than waiting for it to be banned? - how are Swansea squaring it? and the other clubs who don't have parasitic, socially corrosive sponsors (help me off my high horse here ) seriously though, you'd have thought there must be some options. i suspect the betting money is just too easy to land, low hanging fruit and that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 I take it they can now unveal details about their promised involvement in the local society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibdenred Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 16:56, Dynamite Red said: Mansion? Correct. Mansion were sponsors of Tottenham and Bournemouth. I hope you don’t mind I didn’t want to confirm name myself. its all about the money now. Bournemouth dropped them we are only to happy to take their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Red Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 I guess we don't know what if any other options there were in the current environment. I work for in marketing for a big Company in London, we sponsor various events both in and out of the sporting world as soon as covid hit anything we were discussing was either put on hold or cancelled and budgets scaled back. Most of the opportunities in the sporting world we had discussed were taken by betting firms! They seem to be the only firms with cash to spend on this sort of thing at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 The more you look into the Mansion Group, the dodgier they are. Based in a room in a Gibraltar hotel (yeah right) it isn't even clear who owns this company, which just emerged from nowhere 14 years ago and has only recently hit the UK market. Online casinos base themselves in Gibraltar of course because of the colony's lax money laundering and tax regulations. For info on the billions of dodgy money laundered through online casinos in Gib, Malta, Aruba and Canada's Mohawk reservations read here: https://shura.shu.ac.uk/6903/1/Banks_online_gambling.pdf As far as can be ascertained, it appears Mansion are controlled by the Indonesian Sampoerna family, who made billions from cigarettes, but are involved in all sorts now. One big earner for them is burning down vast tracts of virgin jungle to develop palm oil plantations. As has been pointed out above, the Gambling Commission has an open investigation into irregularities in Mansion Group activities. In the light of all this, our club's move to tie in with these sleazebags looks like yet another shite decision by the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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