TonyTonyTony Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Peter Ridsdale on Championship clubs: "My guess is there are at least half a dozen (clubs) that when it gets to Christmas and there's no solution, a number of them may well fold or go into administration" Full story here Who do we think are the most vulnerable in the Champ? P.S Very unflattering photo of him btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Reading, Wednesday, maybe Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Wycombe, Luton, Barnsley, Rotherham,QPR, Coventry at a guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Wycombe, Luton, Barnsley, Rotherham,QPR, Coventry at a guess I thought QPR had some seriously wealthy backers with one stakeholder worth 18 billion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I thought QPR had some seriously wealthy backers with one stakeholder worth 18 billion ? One of them worth $360m, another worth $13.6b. They could probably scrape by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 None of them are viable as companies at the moment and so I would say its all about which owners have the deepest pockets and who are least likely to want to cut their losses. I also wonder if there is likely to be a domino effect too. Very uneducated guess here but I will say Coventry, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Barnsley, Cardiff and Wycombe as my 6 to fold before xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Huddersfield are selling Karlan Grant plus are still getting PPs this year, they’ll be fine imho. Wycombe, well run, are still acting like a Lg1 club but with Champ tv money income....will be fine also imho. Barnsley decently run too. The other 3 could have troubles though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Huddersfield are selling Karlan Grant plus are still getting PPs this year, they’ll be fine imho. Wycombe, well run, are still acting like a Lg1 club but with Champ tv money income....will be fine also imho. Barnsley decently run too. The other 3 could have troubles though. To be honest I picked Huddersfield because I heard their new owners are not as good at the previous ones (although I know nothing else about them other than that), selling your goalscorer when you are a bottom 8 side strikes me as very worrying too.(although it could also be perceived as responsible and careful planning) Wycombe because they're doing badly so it would be easy to cut their losses because not that many people will care, I believe they're American owned (feel like that might mean they're bad for the english game after the last week) but have never looked further into their ownership other than that, (one big thing going for them is that their costs will be much lower than the rest of the league and they will be receiving championship tv money too.) And I don't know why but I just can't trust a Chinese investor who decides to invest in Barnsley (the town or the club), surely he's either crazy or has bad intentions. So in conclusion my decisions were only based on hear say and dodgy stereotypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 To be honest I was really hoping it is Cardiff... Couple of clubs are serial over spenders, Derby, Reading & Wednesday as previously mentioned. Swansea still have some ridiculous wages to pay, too. After that clubs like Rotherham & Wycombe might not be big spenders but are effectively League One clubs operating at Championship level so may also be vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Forest? How many managers are they still paying for? Derby. A strange time to sack Cocu, that`ll cost them a bit. As always, it will come down to whose owner has the deepest pockets and is prepared to put his/her hand into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 I never dreamt Cardiff would be in the mix. They are still on PP's i thought. I know we have our teams we dislike etc, but i wouldnt wish that on anyone really. Well, maybe one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Looking ar these suggestions, if you take Forest and Derby out who will Sky show on tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said: One of them worth $360m, another worth $13.6b. He's only recently worth that, having developed a track and trace app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: He's only recently worth that, having developed a track and trace app. Word is that Forest will be using it to keep an eye on their managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: He's only recently worth that, having developed a track and trace app. Is it world-beating or just worth £13.60? Did our Govt slip him the rest as he’s a good mate of xyz MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Baba Yaga said: To be honest I picked Huddersfield because I heard their new owners are not as good at the previous ones (although I know nothing else about them other than that), selling your goalscorer when you are a bottom 8 side strikes me as very worrying too.(although it could also be perceived as responsible and careful planning) Wycombe because they're doing badly so it would be easy to cut their losses because not that many people will care, I believe they're American owned (feel like that might mean they're bad for the english game after the last week) but have never looked further into their ownership other than that, (one big thing going for them is that their costs will be much lower than the rest of the league and they will be receiving championship tv money too.) And I don't know why but I just can't trust a Chinese investor who decides to invest in Barnsley (the town or the club), surely he's either crazy or has bad intentions. So in conclusion my decisions were only based on hear say and dodgy stereotypes. Ta, I’d forgotten Barnsley ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, RidgeRed said: Is it world-beating or just worth £13.60? Did our Govt slip him the rest as he’s a good mate of xyz MP. Or more likely chief advisor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: This summer we’ve let 14 players leave, we’ve also sold our head coach, so we’ve got in around £7M in transfer fees, plus we’ve freed up a big lump of the wage budget, add to that the 8000 season tickets we’ve sold and it’s a good lump already, add to that the fact we’re actively looking to sell Mowatt & Woodrow before tomorrows deadline and we could be looking at over £10M recouped this summer. So far this summer we’ve signed 3 players for the first team squad and 2 for the under23s spending just over £1M ish. We’ve got our house in order, we’re a well run club, we’ll probably be relegated unless some clubs do fold, or enter administration, but I’d say our finances are sound at the moment. They sound like wealthy foreign owners who are happy to asset strip, rather than provide support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: It’s all about sustainability, they’re running the club as a viable business, they’re anticipating trouble ahead and getting in as much rainy day money as possible, as quick as possible, our owners are not thick, they know clubs are about to implode, they have stripped our out goings to the bare minimum, cashing in on our most valuable assets, because they believe they don’t need them to survive, because other clubs being run stupidly will save our championship status, And we’ll have enough money from this summers activities to continue as viable business for the foreseeable future. The above is just my opinion, but I’m sure I’m not far off. That’s good, but a lot of your fans seem very angry that Woodrow and Mowatt are likely to go. It’s difficult to balance survival (in the division) and sustainability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Swansea made good cutbacks and sales post relegation and that's even predating Rodon sale. Unsure how wealthy or willing to invest their owners are though. Ultimately any club with owners wealthy enough and willing to invest that to survive will be okay. That's the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Swansea made good cutbacks and sales post relegation and that's even predating Rodon sale. Unsure how wealthy or willing to invest their owners are though. Ultimately any club with owners wealthy enough and willing to invest that to survive will be okay. That's the bottom line. Any team in serious financial trouble just need to sell their stadium to Derby or Villa, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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