REDOXO Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Slack Bladder said: Moore was looking up field when Bents passed to him. Bentley should have taken more care with the pass, but that said Moore had enough time to get rid of the ball and reset himself Yes and yes. Mr Holden alluded to it in his interview. To much football in front of our goal. Two very harsh lessons in four days regarding how tough this season will be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Bentley's fault, my ass. TM is taking Savile on one on one on the edge of his own box. Nonsense. Saville was never that alert when he played for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, IAmNick said: Oh come on, I like Moore a lot but that's just not true: Whoops, reuploaded: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, IAmNick said: Whoops, reuploaded: Can't blame Bentley for that, Moore had time to do a few keepy uppies before picking an easy pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Tomo said: Bents seems to have got off lightly. TM was not even aware the ball was coming to him... We'd been doing it all night, it's clearly our plan to distribute quickly, it's mostly on TM for not being switched on. Though, he could have done with some movement in front of him. He'll learn, its one defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Thought that too, in a poor performance he was our best player. He is going to get a lot of games the way it is panning out & certainly was able to put Saturday’s error behind him. He regularly carried the ball out of defence and you could see he was looking for options. None presented themselves from our 4 attacking players at any point. Should have moved him into midfield earlier as that clearly changed the dynamic of the game (though the goal did too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, mozo said: Can't blame Bentley for that, Moore had time to do a few keepy uppies before picking an easy pass! Easy pass? There are two Boro players closing down Vyner and Kalas. It might have counted in the pass completion stats, but Vyner and Kalas would've been under as much pressure albeit in less dangerous areas. The bottom line is it was another mistake. As long as both Bentley and Moore learn from it, that's part of their development. Bentley and Moore both had chances to put their foot through it. That said, if it wasn't for the mistake a point would've flattered us last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, tin said: Easy pass? There are two Boro players closing down Vyner and Kalas. It might have counted in the pass completion stats, but Vyner and Kalas would've been under as much pressure albeit in less dangerous areas. The bottom line is it was another mistake. As long as both Bentley and Moore learn from it, that's part of their development. Bentley and Moore both had chances to put their foot through it. That said, if it wasn't for the mistake a point would've flattered us last night. Back to the keeper was easy pass, otherwise go long. Maybe don't dribble your way out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 21:24, Sturny said: What about adults making spelling mistakes? The inability to spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 17 hours ago, mozo said: Can't blame Bentley for that, Moore had time to do a few keepy uppies before picking an easy pass! And make a cuppa and write a letter to his mum. Loads of time. Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 21:31, SouthStand Sandwich said: I've got a snooker queue for sale of anyone's interested? Cue will be too long getting to your house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrob Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 21:26, Akira said: Regardless of age, he's a pro footballer, should NOT be fannying around on the ball, when last man. Totally needless. One might question why the ball was payed to him when Boro were in a high press and all his possible exit routes (beyond hoofing into touch) were blocked. I'd blame Bentley as much as TM for putting him in that situation in the first place. Bentley should be looking at the options a defender is going to have and deciding that if all defenders and DMs are manmarked he should be going long to Martin/Dhiedhou or playing direct into a wide channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, redrob said: One might question why the ball was payed to him when Boro were in a high press and all his possible exit routes (beyond hoofing into touch) were blocked. I'd blame Bentley as much as TM for putting him in that situation in the first place. Bentley should be looking at the options a defender is going to have and deciding that if all defenders and DMs are manmarked he should be going long to Martin/Dhiedhou or playing direct into a wide channel. I'd agree with that. Not quite sure why we're playing out the back when, like you say, they were pressing high. But he still had time to do something with it. Boot it up the pitch, anything is better than what happened. You could say that's the benefit of hindsight, but most defenders, when trying to dribble, look like a deer trying to walk on ice. Not exactly the quickest! "If in doubt, boot it out". Bentley can take some of the blame for sure, but these sort of errors are so easy to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I'm sorry, but at the point Moore receives the ball, Saville is still 15-20 yards away from him. Bentley has not put him in a particularly difficult situation. He's a professional footballer and he has more than enough time to assess his options and deal with it. In fact, he should be well aware of the picture before he's even received it anyway. If no pass was on, and he didn't want to clear it, he still had the option to knock it straight back to Bentley. To try and dribble around the oncoming Midfielder was his, and only his error. That will be why he came in and apologized. He's young he will make mistakes - as will all players. Seem to remember a very experienced Wade Elliot making a shocker against MK Dons in the promotion season. These things happen. Hopefully he will bounce straight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 25% Bentley, 25% Moore, 25% the whole side, who played so poorly that the mistake mattered, 25% all those City players who failed to go over and give Moore a gee up when he was clearly distressed at the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrob Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 11:51, redrob said: One might question why the ball was payed to him when Boro were in a high press and all his possible exit routes (beyond hoofing into touch) were blocked. I'd blame Bentley as much as TM for putting him in that situation in the first place. Bentley should be looking at the options a defender is going to have and deciding that if all defenders and DMs are manmarked he should be going long to Martin/Dhiedhou or playing direct into a wide channel. Your not wrong and I do agree that Moore should have done better. But if you watch it again Moore wasn't even looking for or expecting the pass when Bents played the ball. Sounds like Bents had to shout when the ball was en route! That in itself means Bents was playing the wrong pass and was being too hasy when he had no need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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