ollywhyte Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Should Mawson be out for a significant period of time, will we be looking to the free transfer list to bolster our defensive options? Especially if we are going to continue with 3 CBs? Mariappa is currently a free transfer, a few years younger than Ashley Williams and has played over 20 games a season for Watford in the Premier League over the past 3 or 4 years IIRC A contract until January would seem a sensible move with option to extend beyond that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Would rather play Kalas/Vyner/Moore with a 23's player filling in on the bench tbh, we shouldn't be increasing the wage bill at the moment. You say only till January but it'll take him a good few weeks to even be game ready so we're into the international break so he could be useful for what 6-8 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 If Mawson is out long term we have a choice of 3 from 3 ! One of them suffers injury, loss form, suspension, problems. Not sure any U23’s ready to step up ? From being really blessed with central defenders things not so rosy now. Would not be surprised at all to see a free agent arrive. Ashley Williams anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: If Mawson is out long term we have a choice of 3 from 3 ! One of them suffers injury, loss form, suspension, problems. Not sure any U23’s ready to step up ? From being really blessed with central defenders things not so rosy now. Would not be surprised at all to see a free agent arrive. Ashley Williams anyone ? Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Cannot rely on Vyner and Moore!!! Neither good enough.....yet.....for a side pushing for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Looking into his background a bit more it seems his agent was trying to get him a deal with Reading on deadline day, so clearly is keen on playing at our level & when you see the clubs he had played for, in the South, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 #BristolCity are weighing up a move for free agent Adrian Mariappa. He is one of several defenders the club has held initial talks with. No final decision has been made yet on whether they recruit another defender however. More on @bristolcitylive shortly. #WatfordFC From Gregor^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Would be happy with this. He’s apparently playing for Jamaica over the international break so his fitness must be fairly good. would help us shore things up until Mawson and Baker are back. I’d feel much more confident with another defender in the group, and to get a player with his experience on a free seems a great option. Would his wage demands be too high?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Would be happy with this. He’s apparently playing for Jamaica over the international break so his fitness must be fairly good. would help us shore things up until Mawson and Baker are back. I’d feel much more confident with another defender in the group, and to get a player with his experience on a free seems a great option. Would his wage demands be too high?? I know it`s said often but he`s earning nowt at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Would be happy with this. He’s apparently playing for Jamaica over the international break so his fitness must be fairly good. would help us shore things up until Mawson and Baker are back. I’d feel much more confident with another defender in the group, and to get a player with his experience on a free seems a great option. Would his wage demands be too high?? Agreed. As yet we have no idea how long AM is out for and given NB’s history there is always the chance he will get another injury. Depends a lot on salary I suspect, however, his experience would add to the overall strength of the squad and if a deal can be struck that suits all parties, let’s do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bobbie said: Would be happy with this. He’s apparently playing for Jamaica over the international break so his fitness must be fairly good. would help us shore things up until Mawson and Baker are back. I’d feel much more confident with another defender in the group, and to get a player with his experience on a free seems a great option. Would his wage demands be too high?? He’s withdrawn from the Jamaica squad over the weekend, a journalist in Jamaica called Simon Preston said it was in order to tie up a contract with his next club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Bristol Post reporting today that we’re after him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Bristol Post reporting today that we’re after him... Surprised it took that long for them to "report" on it, seeing as this thread has been going since 20th October.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWbristol Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 I think he would be an excellent addition to the squad especially with an upcoming game against Watford. Because they treated him quite badly .they didn't even acknowledge is 11 year contribution to the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Taz said: Surprised it took that long for them to "report" on it, seeing as this thread has been going since 20th October.... They’re two entirely different things aren’t they. This thread was started by a fan who pointed out Mariappa was a free agent and suggested he would be an option for us. I’m sure you would have been impressed if the Post has reported that as “news”. The story that the club is actually considering it IS news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Leveller said: They’re two entirely different things aren’t they. This thread was started by a fan who pointed out Mariappa was a free agent and suggested he would be an option for us. I’m sure you would have been impressed if the Post has reported that as “news”. The story that the club is actually considering it IS news. The original point was that it's not unusual to see a story that we are "looking at player xyz" after a "rumour" was started on here. Perfect example was a player that someone made up a few years ago. Low and behold, The Post issued a story on it... Fact is, without sounding like someone else on this board, unless the club confirms it, we're never going to know if we were thinking about it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 We are bare bones and the fact the post started on the 20th October and some 3 weeks later we still haven’t brought anyone in is the big talking point. I get wait for Baker/Mawson but we are a suspension/COVID/another injury away from being threadbare at back. Imagine a back 2 of Moore/Rowe it could happen. It’s now Nov, so not paying a full year salary for someone, so please get Mariappa or Shotton now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMarch Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Seems to be all tied up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Appreciate I’m probably in a minority but these signings depress me somewhat. Same as Ashley Williams and Chris Brunt when they signed. Short-term-ism is not the answer I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Appreciate I’m probably in a minority but these signings depress me somewhat. Same as Ashley Williams and Chris Brunt when they signed. Short-term-ism is not the answer I would suggest. So what do we do, exactly? Imagine Kalas gets injured on international duty, we then face 9 games in 28 days with Vyner & Moore as a pairing with absolutely no cover. Despite the optimistic noises about Mawson I see him featuring for us again as a bonus, Baker, even if he returns to training next month, will still be a minimum of 3 weeks off & we have said nothing about Sessegnon. Despite what some might think if he really does have 3 clubs interested, Mariappa holds the cards, so I would not be surprised at all if we have offered him a 2 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Appreciate I’m probably in a minority but these signings depress me somewhat. Same as Ashley Williams and Chris Brunt when they signed. Short-term-ism is not the answer I would suggest. I get that too Dave. But I see the common sense on this and Williams, Brunt I’m still struggling with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, GrahamC said: So what do we do, exactly? Imagine Kalas gets injured on international duty, we then face 9 games in 28 days with Vyner & Moore as a pairing with absolutely no cover. Despite the optimistic noises about Mawson I see him featuring for us again as a bonus, Baker, even if he returns to training next month, will still be a minimum of 3 weeks off & we have said nothing about Sessegnon. Despite what some might think if he really does have 3 clubs interested, Mariappa holds the cards, so I would not be surprised at all if we have offered him a 2 year deal. Plus he’s already got Prem experience which will help us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, GrahamC said: So what do we do, exactly? Imagine Kalas gets injured on international duty, we then face 9 games in 28 days with Vyner & Moore as a pairing with absolutely no cover. Despite the optimistic noises about Mawson I see him featuring for us again as a bonus, Baker, even if he returns to training next month, will still be a minimum of 3 weeks off & we have said nothing about Sessegnon. Despite what some might think if he really does have 3 clubs interested, Mariappa holds the cards, so I would not be surprised at all if we have offered him a 2 year deal. So we have a 4 week problem and the resolution is a 2 year deal. Two fingers up to Moore, Vyner and all the kids. If we hadn’t signed Williams and played Moore or Vyner then they’d both be even better now. Repeating the same mistake. If we sign Mariappa we have to get promoted or else we have just helped ourselves short term to hurt ourselves long term. Appreciate there will be plenty of people who disagree with me. It’s a different philosophy that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I get that too Dave. But I see the common sense on this and Williams, Brunt I’m still struggling with. I would say to cover a 4-6 week problem the common sense would be to sign someone until January. If there isn’t anyone good enough who will sign for that short a time then work a way around it. It’s not as if there are zero options and we will either have to play with 10 men or have Diedhiou at centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Short-term-ism is not the answer I would suggest. The alternative would be to throw in a youngster like Towler, who is probably nowhere near ready and risk a) Crushing his confidence and b) making costly errors . I would prefer youngsters getting game time but we need to be realistic about their ability to play at this level twice a week. Vyner had loans before being introduced into the first team and many question the lad’s suitability ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I would say to cover a 4-6 week problem the common sense would be to sign someone until January. If there isn’t anyone good enough who will sign for that short a time then work a way around it. It’s not as if there are zero options and we will either have to play with 10 men or have Diedhiou at centre back. Worth considering too that this gives us the option to rotate and rest Hunt too as Vyner can play RB / RWB. In all of this it would help if we were party to the degree of Mawson’s injury and Baker’s progress from his. As it stands we are all speculating on lots of unknown info. I don’t have a problem with Mariappa per se, but I can see why you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: It would take another two injuries for someone like Towler or Harrison to have to play. I would take my chances and deal with it if it happens rather than sign another old player on a 2 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: So we have a 4 week problem and the resolution is a 2 year deal. Two fingers up to Moore, Vyner and all the kids. I bet it's a 1 year deal with an option of another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: So we have a 4 week problem and the resolution is a 2 year deal. Two fingers up to Moore, Vyner and all the kids. If we hadn’t signed Williams and played Moore or Vyner then they’d both be even better now. Repeating the same mistake. If we sign Mariappa we have to get promoted or else we have just helped ourselves short term to hurt ourselves long term. Appreciate there will be plenty of people who disagree with me. It’s a different philosophy that’s all. Respect your view but it isn’t a “4 week problem”. So far Vyner has played every single minute & Moore started the first 9, they aren’t exactly struggling to get an opportunity. Only my view but I am very doubtful about the positivity around Mawson. If he doesn’t return then we are at least a man short. Mariappa can play RB too, so if Sessegnon also remains unavailable this is cover there, too. Williams was an excellent short term signing, Vyner wasn’t available to us when he signed anyway, as he was on loan at Aberdeen by then & got injured. Moore going on loan to Blackpool was truly bonkers but was all down to LJ (or Ashton) wanting to bring Benkovic in, so nothing at all to do with Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Respect your view but it isn’t a “4 week problem”. So far Vyner has played every single minute & Moore started the first 9, they aren’t exactly struggling to get an opportunity. Only my view but I am very doubtful about the positivity around Mawson. If he doesn’t return then we are at least a man short. Mariappa can play RB too, so if Sessegnon also remains unavailable this is cover there, too. Williams was an excellent short term signing, Vyner wasn’t available to us when he signed anyway, as he was on loan at Aberdeen by then & got injured. Moore going on loan to Blackpool was truly bonkers but was all down to LJ (or Ashton) wanting to bring Benkovic in, so nothing at all to do with Williams. Time will tell I guess. If Moore and Vyner continue to get good amount of games then great. You call Williams an excellent short term signing but ultimately what did it achieve? It stopped game time for other younger players. Maybe we finished 8th instead of 12th but it’s cost us longer term If Mariappa gets us to the play offs then brilliant signing. If he doesn’t it could well be another poor signing of a mid 30s player. I would almost always look long term though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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