BigTone Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Robbored said: He’s a Jamaican international and can’t be too far away from full fitness.. How does that make a difference Robbo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lrrr said: My post was a few weeks ago, would have to question how far off match fitness is he? Could well be a few weeks off at the moment and we were told Baker could be back in December, sure I saw something online saying Mawson could be back in January. We now would have 6 CB's available. We have to trust the people who have made the signing can see the benefit of signing for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronnie said: Albert was in fact John Quigley Albert Quigley was signed by Man U in the aftermath of the Munich plane crash. I believe Stan Crowther was also signed. Both had already played for their clubs, Wednesday and Villa, so received special dispensation from the FA to play in the FA Cup for Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, BigTone said: How does that make a difference Robbo ? I assume that as he’s in the Jamaican squad and if he weren’t fit he’d have been omitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 I see his arrival in the same way as Brunt. Both have been signed as bodies capable of performing at a reasonable standard in the Championship. Not to block the youngsters pathway but to help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: We got one. He's injured. 2 actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Albert Quigley was signed by Man U in the aftermath of the Munich plane crash. I believe Stan Crowther was also signed. Both had already played for their clubs, Wednesday and Villa, so received special dispensation from the FA to play in the FA Cup for Manchester. That was Albert Quixhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: My post was a few weeks ago, would have to question how far off match fitness is he? Could well be a few weeks off at the moment and we were told Baker could be back in December, sure I saw something online saying Mawson could be back in January. We now would have 6 CB's available. He was originally named in the Jamaica squad so you'd have to assume he has some level of fitness at least. I'd hope that if it was going to take him a month or so to get up to speed then we wouldn't have bothered if Baker and/or Mawson are due back any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ronnie said: That was Albert Quixhall. Sorry Quixall no h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Apologies if this has been mentioned before. Is anyone concerned that this new signing is actually less than 5'11" ? We seem to have made great strides recently in increasing the size and Physicality of squad members, only it would seem to bring in what in center back terms is rather short. Perhaps he's got a great leap or reads the game well, but recently we came up against one of the championship teams that rely heavily on size and we barely coped. There are other teams who will have the same ethos and target us with there route one football and reliance on the "big Man". I expect references to short center backs now, but, a good big un, is preferred to a good little un, in my eyes. Is this a good move in terms of his size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Sorry Quixall no h. Don Quixall - the Man of La Mancha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Robbored said: He’s exactly what City need. An experienced CB to guide and help Vyner and Moore. Hopefully he’ll do a similar job as Ashley Williams did this time last season - just a bit quicker tho! And without the red cards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, GrahamC said: 2 actually. We've got two left-footed centre backs that are injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Rich said: Apologies if this has been mentioned before. Is anyone concerned that this new signing is actually less than 5'11" ? We seem to have made great strides recently in increasing the size and Physicality of squad members, only it would seem to bring in what in center back terms is rather short. Perhaps he's got a great leap or reads the game well, but recently we came up against one of the championship teams that rely heavily on size and we barely coped. There are other teams who will have the same ethos and target us with there route one football and reliance on the "big Man". I expect references to short center backs now, but, a good big un, is preferred to a good little un, in my eyes. Is this a good move in terms of his size? He’s got nearly 200 games in the prem behind him . I think that tells everything it needs to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Do people think 23 year old centre backs can't improve? I am still very optimistic about Moore and Vyner's future and what they can become. Vyner has surprised me so far this season. Very impressed 2nd that re Vyner, been impressed too. Can’t help to add some more experience with all the games coming up & so close together though. Also could be a sign Mawson is too far from playing anytime soon and Holden is committed to 3 at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, italian dave said: And without the red cards! Ashley Williams was thug, used every dirty trick in the book. Top defender in his day but past it when he joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Do people think 23 year old centre backs can't improve? I am still very optimistic about Moore and Vyner's future and what they can become. Vyner has surprised me so far this season. Very impressed I think this whole season will be a learning curve for them. If they're both established Championship CBs at 25 then they're having a very promising career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Wiltshire robin said: 11 games in , table looks nothing like it will at the end of season You're so right. We can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: You're so right. We can do better. Jesus I’m not complaining about how we are doing it’s been great I’m just saying Moore and vyner aren’t top 6 standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Jesus I’m not complaining about how we are doing it’s been great I’m just saying Moore and vyner aren’t top 6 standard I’ve just finished a zoom call with Bristol City Psychologist Damian Hodge about resilience in sport. Ironically Zac Vyner was talking about proving people wrong and how he was never the top player in his age groups growing up but look at him now compared to everyone else. You say he isn’t good enough for top six yet he’s played every minute for a top six side this season. And even if you don’t think he is good enough that only means you don’t think he is good enough today. He will continue to improve the same way he was improved continually up until now. I’ve learned tonight that he doesn’t seem to lack on the mental side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, BigTone said: Religion shouldn't be an issue Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Wiltshire robin said: Jesus I’m not complaining about how we are doing it’s been great I’m just saying Moore and vyner aren’t top 6 standard Ok - I had similar conversations about both Bryan and more specifically , Reid -years ago. We are where we are and both Moore & Vyner have been, to some extent, integral to where we are now. Where it's hard to agree is when we are in top 6 and the team are playing as a team ( i.e. no Cole or Abraham distorting our position) then surely if we're in the top 6 then the team is top 6 standard where we've been for 20% of this season? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Do people think 23 year old centre backs can't improve? I am still very optimistic about Moore and Vyner's future and what they can become. Vyner has surprised me so far this season. Very impressed Vyner can also fill in at right back, right wing back, or even midfield which he frequented for Aberdeen. Mr Versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 interesting take on the Watford forum. http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/mariappa-unsung-hero.56596/page-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Numero Uno said: Wasn't Josh Brownhill Vegan or did I imagine that? More Romulan, but no Klingon as he scarpered to Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rich said: Apologies if this has been mentioned before. Is anyone concerned that this new signing is actually less than 5'11" ? We seem to have made great strides recently in increasing the size and Physicality of squad members, only it would seem to bring in what in center back terms is rather short. Perhaps he's got a great leap or reads the game well, but recently we came up against one of the championship teams that rely heavily on size and we barely coped. There are other teams who will have the same ethos and target us with there route one football and reliance on the "big Man". I expect references to short center backs now, but, a good big un, is preferred to a good little un, in my eyes. Is this a good move in terms of his size? Think this short video may ease your concerns - aggressive , and there’s a bit where he out jumps a certain Highly heralded Liverpool Centre Half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Thank god. Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Moments of Pleasure said: We've got two left-footed centre backs that are injured? Yes, Mawson & Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Prinny said: Until January? 11 games. I wonder if this is a commitment to going back to 3-5-2 or he just comes in for Vyner in a 4. We'll see I guess! I suspect the former personally. They’ve spoke so much about ‘the new system’ that I think Mariappa is here for that reason. I like a back 3/5 so works for me. Welcome Adrian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Do people think 23 year old centre backs can't improve? I am still very optimistic about Moore and Vyner's future and what they can become. Vyner has surprised me so far this season. Very impressed 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Ashley Williams was thug, used every dirty trick in the book. Top defender in his day but past it when he joined us. Past it....in terms of his peak....yes. Not past it in being perfectly adequate for us. He was better for us than he was at Stoke (from the games against us and the ones I saw on tv). He told me he wasn’t happy at the end of his time at Stoke, and had no plans to go there permanently had they been interested. 44 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I’ve just finished a zoom call with Bristol City Psychologist Damian Hodge about resilience in sport. Ironically Zac Vyner was talking about proving people wrong and how he was never the top player in his age groups growing up but look at him now compared to everyone else. You say he isn’t good enough for top six yet he’s played every minute for a top six side this season. And even if you don’t think he is good enough that only means you don’t think he is good enough today. He will continue to improve the same way he was improved continually up until now. I’ve learned tonight that he doesn’t seem to lack on the mental side. Yep, made same point earlier in this thread. 37 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Think this short video may ease your concerns - aggressive , and there’s a bit where he out jumps a certain Highly heralded Liverpool Centre Half Can’t say I’ve seen tonnes from him over the years, but he always struck me as a good, solid defender who was comfortable enough on the ball. Good signing on the deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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