Northern Red Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Bard said: Well said. As a Nimby here that is my only concern. I'd like there to be something in place preventing both facilities being used simultaneously. Eg if city are home on a Tuesday night you can't have a concert at the same time. The additional parking needs to be used for football and rugby supporters on matchday I doubt anything like that would be allowed. The closest they'd come to it would probably be having football or rugby on a Saturday afternoon and then something in the arena later in the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Bard said: Well said. As a Nimby here that is my only concern. I'd like there to be something in place preventing both facilities being used simultaneously. Eg if city are home on a Tuesday night you can't have a concert at the same time. The additional parking needs to be used for football and rugby supporters on matchday Get the idea that for the hotel, the carpark is essential, but for all other events, surely it isn't beyond the club/promoter putting on sport and shows to work with First and have the cost of travel built in to the ticket price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Further media coverage here: https://www.southbristolvoice.co.uk/sporting-quarter-plans-finally-submitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 1, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Further media coverage here: https://www.southbristolvoice.co.uk/sporting-quarter-plans-finally-submitted An interesting lin in that article https://www.longmoorvillage.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 You would think no better reason for an Ashton Gate station. Yet to discount it now by excluding match day figures for football, rugby and basketball, let alone other events, seems beyond naive to me. Oh its a council! If you cannot get a job in the private sector work for a public body. Dumpsters holding back the regions because they lack intelligence. I cannot think of any other reason. Logic is something crushed by council dictat bollox. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, havanatopia said: You would think no better reason for an Ashton Gate station. Yet to discount it now by excluding match day figures for football, rugby and basketball, let alone other events, seems beyond naive to me. Oh its a council! If you cannot get a job in the private sector work for a public body. Dumpsters holding back the regions because they lack intelligence. I cannot think of any other reason. Logic is something crushed by council dictat bollox. Local Government is constrained by bureaucracy, regulations, and auditing. If you play by the book, all is good. If you stray away from the rigid regime, you are likely to get into trouble. No wonder local government is staid and risk averse. I suppose its similar to being an MP, they go into it thinking they can make a difference, but they soon find out that if they try, they'll be on their own and in danger of coming a cropper. Best to toe the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Local Government is constrained by bureaucracy, regulations, and auditing. If you play by the book, all is good. If you stray away from the rigid regime, you are likely to get into trouble. No wonder local government is staid and risk averse. I suppose its similar to being an MP, they go into it thinking they can make a difference, but they soon find out that if they try, they'll be on their own and in danger of coming a cropper. Best to toe the line. No, its because people can't get jobs in the private sector. FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Local Government is constrained by bureaucracy, regulations, and auditing. If you play by the book, all is good. If you stray away from the rigid regime, you are likely to get into trouble. No wonder local government is staid and risk averse. I suppose its similar to being an MP, they go into it thinking they can make a difference, but they soon find out that if they try, they'll be on their own and in danger of coming a cropper. Best to toe the line. Local Government is a catch all phrase covering planning to Social care to bin collections to tree officers. Comparing it to the private sector is like comparing running a bakery to being a tiddly winks player. Or a shellfish to a bin bag. The main reason why both Bristol mayors have been failures is they don't understand the organisation they lead. One's a local businessman not averse to a bit of cronyism the other a career politician who worked for the NHS. Zero insight so unable to be effective. Forever falling into the trap of employing failures from elsewhere who aren't up to the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 1, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, havanatopia said: You would think no better reason for an Ashton Gate station. Yet to discount it now by excluding match day figures for football, rugby and basketball, let alone other events, seems beyond naive to me. Can you imagine the size of a station that would need to be built to cope with a matchday crowd Never going to happen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, phantom said: Can you imagine the size of a station that would need to be built to cope with a matchday crowd Never going to happen Not sure how every London club does it with poxy little underground stations. The answer is queues and lots of trains (which is the actual problem). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 23/06/2021 at 08:59, The Bard said: Well said. As a Nimby here that is my only concern. I'd like there to be something in place preventing both facilities being used simultaneously. Nimby too of course and a matchday parking scheme for City/Bristol would placate me. I’m massively opposed to RPZ but matchdays are farcical round yer I went to one of the consultation meetings at AG 2 years ago or so and every question from concerned local residents about parking was answered with “trains”. It was obvious then and it’s obvious now that trains just will not happen. They need to face facts and deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Public transport will need to massively improve especially during the build. The current set up isn’t fit for purpose . The current park & ride buses are a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, havanatopia said: You would think no better reason for an Ashton Gate station. Yet to discount it now by excluding match day figures for football, rugby and basketball, let alone other events, seems beyond naive to me. Oh its a council! If you cannot get a job in the private sector work for a public body. Dumpsters holding back the regions because they lack intelligence. I cannot think of any other reason. Logic is something crushed by council dictat bollox. It's not commercially viable, the station is nothing to do with the council 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 1, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Pezo said: Not sure how every London club does it with poxy little underground stations. The answer is queues and lots of trains (which is the actual problem). You can't seriously compare an underground station to a new Ashton Gate station It's more than trains, there's simply not the space to control thousands of supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Lummydaze, it’s taken them decades to try and resolve use of the LA Park and Ride Car Park. We’re still waiting on that! The whole point of the mayoral scheme was to resolve such issues. Only in Bristol and North Somerset does such a goddam simple solution to a problem become an impossible fix. Trains will be obsolete by the time your Mayor(s) get around to thinking about a station at Ashton Gate. Just celebrate your £multi-million 300 metres of ‘guided bus service’ on that bridge across The Cut. What’s that all about? Utterly bizarre. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 If Uncle Steve pays for it, with no return on his spend it'll happen. But why should he? He has provided thousands of jobs and now spends his hard earned keeping us semi-entertained, he has done plenty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 27/10/2020 at 19:54, Johnr1986 said: It’s really looks impressive, do any of you think that we might redevelope the Atyeo ? I hope so for home fans and get the away lot top of Lansdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: I hope so for home fans and get the away lot top of Lansdown Start writing to Santa Claus, only way it's going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, miser said: Start writing to Santa Claus, only way it's going to happen. It needs happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: It needs happen Then write to Santa, it's your only option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 2, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: It needs happen Never will because of the stands design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, phantom said: You can't seriously compare an underground station to a new Ashton Gate station It's more than trains, there's simply not the space to control thousands of supporters I don't see why not, it's all rails, trains and stations isn't it? As someone that has stood in queues outside underground stations following football games I can confidently say there isn't space there either and yet they manage. They manage because they can bring a train in every couple minutes and keep the crowd moving, our problem will be not being able to bring a train in evey couple minutes, we simply don't have enough trains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: It needs happen SL has said that “it” (the Atyeo stand) won’t be increased in size due to the cost of buying the houses and lack of need. A 27k capacity is perfectly ok in the Championship and, if City reach the Premier League, it would only be a sell out when the bigger teams visit. The big money comes from the Premier League and TV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 I've been looking at some of the objections, most are to do with traffic despite the plans including a multi-storey car park. I envisage delays, the status of the application is "pending consideration" https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=QUDIACDNHQI00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 The Wickes parking thread got me thinking about this - it seems to have been an age since anything was released around it - anyone got any ideas or know anyone involved? Might be quite some while til we get to watch the Flyers in action in BS3 @Davefevs @SuperDziek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: The Wickes parking thread got me thinking about this - it seems to have been an age since anything was released around it - anyone got any ideas or know anyone involved? Might be quite some while til we get to watch the Flyers in action in BS3 @Davefevs @SuperDziek was a thread on it about a month ago Reg i think EDIT: Found it Edited July 13, 2022 by NcnsBcfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 There have been some revisions submitted to the planning applications recently based on various feedback from the council and other stakeholders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 02/07/2021 at 08:18, pongo88 said: SL has said that “it” (the Atyeo stand) won’t be increased in size due to the cost of buying the houses and lack of need. A 27k capacity is perfectly ok in the Championship and, if City reach the Premier League, it would only be a sell out when the bigger teams visit. The big money comes from the Premier League and TV Have you noticed though that the teams with the larger attendances seem to be the ones that dominate so there is that for it, though unfortunately I could never see us being in that position to need a 50+ thousand seater stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 13, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, pillred said: Have you noticed though that the teams with the larger attendances seem to be the ones that dominate so there is that for it, though unfortunately I could never see us being in that position to need a 50+ thousand seater stadium. Reckon that is a myth, for years many of our supporters said that end could not generate any proper noise, we have turned over many sides with a full Atyeo The ground is not being redeveloped any more than it is, the houses are not owned by the club etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 02/07/2021 at 08:18, pongo88 said: SL has said that “it” (the Atyeo stand) won’t be increased in size due to the cost of buying the houses and lack of need. A 27k capacity is perfectly ok in the Championship and, if City reach the Premier League, it would only be a sell out when the bigger teams visit. The big money comes from the Premier League and TV I don’t believe that , we’d sell out every game in the prem other than maybe Bournemouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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