LoyalRed Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Can’t for the life of me figure out why we sold or loaned out all our creativity to put all our faith in this one player. A guy we loaned out last season to Derby and even they wouldn’t play him. He’s got the number 10 shirt but he’s hardly Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Anonymous, yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Far too inconsistent and is not working out in this system, disappears for most of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When the river runs Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 He set up our goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Another assist today. 2 goals and 2 assists this season. Average it out, that's around 10 and 10 for the season which is a great return from a midfield player. Now, does he entirely suit the role? No. Does he cost us goals going the other way? Yes. But at least he contributes attacking wise. So could he be in that actual number ten role, have less defensive responsibilities and more attacking freedom and it work better for us? Absolutely. I'd be tempted to play him with Martin up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, When the river runs said: He set up our goal Sorry I meant the other 90 mins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: Can’t for the life of me figure out why we sold or loaned out all our creativity to put all our faith in this one player. A guy we loaned out last season to Derby and even they wouldn’t play him. He’s got the number 10 shirt but he’s hardly Messi Hardly Messi? Obviously.... he is a championship player. Name me a number 10 who is messi esque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsocks Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Here we go let's slagg off patterson again.pathetic.need to look at tactics and teach our players how to take penalties properly instead of show boating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Prinny said: Another assist today. 2 goals and 2 assists this season. Average it out, that's around 10 and 10 for the season which is a great return from a midfield player. Now, does he entirely suit the role? No. Does he cost us goals going the other way? Yes. But at least he contributes attacking wise. So could he be in that actual number ten role, have less defensive responsibilities and more attacking freedom and it work better for us? Absolutely. I'd be tempted to play him with Martin up front. Your spot on, he’s another player out of position, Holden falling into the same old Johnson trap, play to people’s strengths!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 A good championship player but needs support. All the creativity seems on him. We have no ball players anywhere bar him....look at Norwich they have 6 or 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Needed dropping after the boro game. But as we have got rid of Palmer and SS and Weimann being injured. Unbelievably our options are very limited. Pathetic really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Another 90 mins despite another fairylike performance, we’ve found our new undroppable man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 We are desperate for Williams and Walsh to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: We are desperate for Williams and Walsh to come back How do we know Walsh will improve us - he’s an unknown at this level. Williams based on performances for Wigan should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, daored said: How do we know Walsh will improve us - he’s an unknown at this level. Williams based on performances for Wigan should It will be hard not to improve us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 We lost, so many on here won’t be listening but I thought he was ok today & as has already been pointed out, provided another assist. My problem is expecting him to start game after game without a break, could easily have put Nagy on after 65 & given him a rest but we made the same 3 subs every game, 2 strikers on & Brunt for Bakinson (or the other way round). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, GTFABM said: Hardly Messi? Obviously.... he is a championship player. Name me a number 10 who is messi esque? Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: It will be hard not to improve us at the moment. I agree , but he’s an unknown at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 I suspect he is filling the position Walsh would have been in but for his injury because Dean saw no other option. Unless we change formation and pick some actual midfielders he looks like a guaranteed starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, When the river runs said: He set up our goal Yes but apart from that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcityfan Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Not his best today. Too many balls into the centre where there was little threat from us. Probably needs a rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: He had some bad games going a few games back. Don't really get what was too bad about that performance, or midweek. He worked hard and helped create some good moves today. Problem for me was mostly the back 3 and Brunt. Down to individuals to do better but not helped by our shape against theirs. I am not sure now if we persevere with this back 3 formation or maybe go back to basics in a 4231. Holden wont play with 1 up top.....especially When wells Martin and diedhiou are literally strikers not wide men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Certainly not the reason we lost that game. Going forward we were pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Bakinson poor not ready Vyner inconsistent Taylor moore inexperienced Yeah yeah all promising players but disaster all playing together. Still saves us money in signing players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, daored said: How do we know Walsh will improve us - he’s an unknown at this level. Williams based on performances for Wigan should We do not for sure, but really good chance he will simply on his outstanding form from last season and the comments from LJ before his demise, and DH saying he has a big role to play, then of course Williams as our big signing.... these two cannot do anything but improve us. Sooner the better... the eternal optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 He's a number 10, not really a winger and certainty not a central midfielder. If we are going to persist with a 3-5-2 then we need to change the midfield 3 and play him in front of 2 proper central midfielders.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Problem for me was mostly the back 3 and Brunt Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, daored said: How do we know Walsh will improve us - he’s an unknown at this level. Williams based on performances for Wigan should Spot on. Some claim Walsh is virtually the son of God solely based on what he did in L1. Aside from the fact that his availability record really isn’t great for us (not just this season, when he got his chance at Ipswich 2 seasons ago he went off injured & didn’t feature again all season), there is nothing to base this on, but apparently if he ever gets fit again he will be in the side in front of Paterson, we’ll see.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, M.D said: If we are going to persist with a 3-5-2 then we need to change the midfield 3 and play him in front of 2 proper central midfielders.. Totally agree with this. Pato - the usual whipping boy of the forum. He was not that bad today - set up the goal and involved in a few moves. He can’t seem to play a full 90 minutes though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, GrahamC said: We lost, so many on here won’t be listening but I thought he was ok today & as has already been pointed out, provided another assist. My problem is expecting him to start game after game without a break, could easily have put Nagy on after 65 & given him a rest but we made the same 3 subs every game, 2 strikers on & Brunt for Bakinson (or the other way round). Yeah exactly. Had a good game 1st half against Bournemouth. Then was clearly absolutely knackered after 70, which was when he started misplacing passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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