Lanterne Rouge Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54759336 He seems to have settled in Turkey and is trying his best to put the dark times behind him whilst acknowledging that he is only one wrong life choice away from going back there. A very mature interview and I hope we see him back playing in England one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54759336 He seems to have settled in Turkey and is trying his best to put the dark times behind him whilst acknowledging that he is only one wrong life choice away from going back there. A very mature interview and I hope we see him back playing in England one day. He was one of the best young players I’ve ever seen play for us. I hope he continues to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 11 hours ago, CyderInACan said: He was one of the best young players I’ve ever seen play for us. I hope he continues to do well. Do agree there He had real talent and read the game so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 15 hours ago, CyderInACan said: He was one of the best young players I’ve ever seen play for us. I hope he continues to do well. I remember watching him play for us and saying he’d play for England (which he did), such a shame for him how it turned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 Glad he's turning it around. I remember hearing him speak when he was with us. A highly rated, tipped-for-the-top young talent. But he was humble, talked about learning his trade, doing his best for us. No Billy Big Bollocks attitude at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I struggle to think of a better young player we've had on loan in my 20+ years watching. In terms of all-round game, I'd probably put him above Tammy Abraham even. I always remember, in a match away at Reading, him playing a one-two in the middle of the park, going through down the left hitting the crossbar with a ridiculous chip. It was just... wow. I'd go as far as saying most strikers we've had across the past two decades were incapable of showing that kind of finesse in front of goal, let alone this being a 19-year-old centre-half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I struggle to think of a better young player we've had on loan in my 20+ years watching. In terms of all-round game, I'd probably put him above Tammy Abraham even. I always remember, in a match away at Reading, him playing a one-two in the middle of the park, going through down the left hitting the crossbar with a ridiculous chip. It was just... wow. I'd go as far as saying most strikers we've had across the past two decades were incapable of showing that kind of finesse in front of goal, let alone this being a 19-year-old centre-half! Especially back then, ball playing centre half's were relatively rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 That header against QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 He was like Webster, but even better. I remember that run forward and chip that crashed off the bar, amazing! you see plenty more of it now with all the telly on TV and modern players, but I dont think I had ever seen anything like it before at city.. and rarely since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, David Brent said: That header against QPR Right in front of us!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 I see he scored at both ends in a 1-1 draw today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 I was surprised he`s still only 28. In his prime as a CB and certainly worth someone giving him a go back over here if he has mastered his demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I was surprised he`s still only 28. In his prime as a CB and certainly worth someone giving him a go back over here if he has mastered his demons. I just watched the highlights here https://www.beinsports.com/us/turkish-super-league/video/caulker-in-spotlight-as-alanyaspor-and-trabzo/1578927 (you will need a VPN) Ironically the own goal was caused by him trying to stop Benik score, (Benik seemed to be trying to claim it. ) . I must say I wouldn't have picked Caulker out of a line up he looks so different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I was surprised he`s still only 28. In his prime as a CB and certainly worth someone giving him a go back over here if he has mastered his demons. He's the type of player that, as you say if he has come over those obstacles, someone at this level would possibly take a chance on. Possibly on a short term contract initially, with the promise of a longer deal if everybody is happy (including Caulker himself). Saying that though, he may not want to come back over and be pushed back into the spotlight. Being away has probably helped him immensely. I certainly wouldn't be against seeing him here, even at half the ability he had when he was with us originally on loan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Taz said: He's the type of player that, as you say if he has come over those obstacles, someone at this level would possibly take a chance on. Possibly on a short term contract initially, with the promise of a longer deal if everybody is happy (including Caulker himself). Saying that though, he may not want to come back over and be pushed back into the spotlight. Being away has probably helped him immensely. I certainly wouldn't be against seeing him here, even at half the ability he had when he was with us originally on loan!! I didn`t want to actually say that in my post but with all our CB issues............................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 01/11/2020 at 17:53, Lanterne Rouge said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54759336 He seems to have settled in Turkey and is trying his best to put the dark times behind him whilst acknowledging that he is only one wrong life choice away from going back there. A very mature interview and I hope we see him back playing in England one day. Club a massive reason his career went downhill. The club has come on leaps and bounds in that department of looking after young players. Glad he is settled, he was some player during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 A game against Swansea at home back in 2011 sticks in my mind. Swansea played us off the park that night, but Caulker was still head and shoulders the best player on the pitch. He’s now around 28? If he can get it together, he should be right in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 A great long pass at Preston in the rain to set us away, could've been for the opener- springs to mind. Our first- and I think only win- there in years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 17:29, Bs4Red said: Club a massive reason his career went downhill. The club has come on leaps and bounds in that department of looking after young players. Glad he is settled, he was some player during his time here. Wouldn’t say club was a ‘massive’ reason his career went downhill. It went downhill due to his alcoholism. The club put him in a flat and left him to his own devices but I’d argue he would have found alcohol at one point or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 His time at a club down the road was disastrous in terms of what happened to him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamdon Mart Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, YorkshireSection said: His time at a club down the road was disastrous in terms of what happened to him personally. Do you mean Yeovil or Swansea? At Yeovil (my club), he won Player Of The Year at the age of 17/18, he was exceptional that season. Saw him a couple of years later and he had a move to Leeds United lined up but had a groin issue so the move stalled. Went to Swansea in the end. Best defender Yeovil has ever had (and at least two of them are playing in the Premier League now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hengrovian said: Do you mean Yeovil or Swansea? At Yeovil (my club), he won Player Of The Year at the age of 17/18, he was exceptional that season. Saw him a couple of years later and he had a move to Leeds United lined up but had a groin issue so the move stalled. Went to Swansea in the end. Best defender Yeovil has ever had (and at least two of them are playing in the Premier League now). From what I saw of him, he was probably one of the best defenders (centre halfs) City ever had (in my time - I recall such stalwarts as Gary Collier and Shaun Taylor). I may be wrong, but I do seem to recall that SC gave an interview several months (years?) ago, in which he alluded to his time at City being the cause of his alcohol and gambling addictions (left to his own devices in a flat somewhere) - I have never heard nor read of any such problems at Yeovil or Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Hengrovian said: Do you mean Yeovil or Swansea? At Yeovil (my club), he won Player Of The Year at the age of 17/18, he was exceptional that season. Saw him a couple of years later and he had a move to Leeds United lined up but had a groin issue so the move stalled. Went to Swansea in the end. Best defender Yeovil has ever had (and at least two of them are playing in the Premier League now). I'd guess he means, Cardiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 09/11/2020 at 00:00, And Its Smith said: Wouldn’t say club was a ‘massive’ reason his career went downhill. It went downhill due to his alcoholism. The club put him in a flat and left him to his own devices but I’d argue he would have found alcohol at one point or another. I’d disagree with you, he was young and impressionable and if looked after properly would have been a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: I’d disagree with you, he was young and impressionable and if looked after properly would have been a different story. Impossible to say if that is true but it’s probable that it isn’t true. He talks about having an addictive personality amongst other issues. Chances are he would have gone down the route he went down at one point or another. To say that if City would have looked after him he would have never become an alcoholic and gambling addict is almost certainly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Impossible to say if that is true but it’s probable that it isn’t true. He talks about having an addictive personality amongst other issues. Chances are he would have gone down the route he went down at one point or another. To say that if City would have looked after him he would have never become an alcoholic and gambling addict is almost certainly wrong. So if City didn’t leave him on his own and would have put measures in place to prevent it happening like they have done since. Ridiculous comment, City are a lot to blame as are Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Bs4Red said: So if City didn’t leave him on his own and would have put measures in place to prevent it happening like they have done since. Ridiculous comment, City are a lot to blame as are Spurs. I’m not sure if we are talking at crossed purposes. I’m saying that if city had looked after him better then he might not have gambled and drunk at that point. But it’s likely he would have at some point in his career. I assumed the ‘different story’ you mentioned was talking about his entire career which is wrong. No need to call a comment ridiculous either. It’s just a discussion and we all have opinions. I’m giving mine having worked with alcoholic charities in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleJim Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Got a memory of reading one of his interviews and IIRC he was spotted out in a casino in the early hours, word got back to someone at the club who told him something along the lines of do what you want in your spare time, just don’t let it affect your performances on the pitch. Not the best advice to be giving someone who wants to be a footballer, but things do seem to have improved since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Football and gambling: Steven Caulker - ex-Tottenham and QPR defender wants to help addicts - BBC Sport Another good interview here. He seems keen on putting it all out there to try and stop other young players making the mistakes he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 When they were with us if you had to chose which one would have the best career out of Caulker and Danny Rose, we’d have picked Caulker by a country mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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