Dredd Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: COD played against Wales on Saturday - 2 of his team mates tested positive after that game COD played against England last Thursday - another of his team mates tested positive after that game I'd say COD should be self isolating Not sure that’s the way it’s been working, otherwise whole teams will have been having to isolate. If he gets a negative test result on his return then I guess he’s available. Whether that’s right or not is a different discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 17, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: And the only players to have trained properly for two weeks...... They will all have training equipment and personal routines to keep peak fitness I would imagine that there would have been a lot of rest time in this period with the current number of games played We wouldn't be working with a full side until those international duty were back anyway 19 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: COD played against Wales on Saturday - 2 of his team mates tested positive after that game COD played against England last Thursday - another of his team mates tested positive after that game I'd say COD should be self isolating Am sure it is different with "Elite sportsmen", otherwise sides would all be isolating 2 hours ago, Scare_Man said: I imagine it will be kept under wraps as much as possible so not give away any snippets of information as to what sort of team we can field against Derby I can't see any having any problems by kick off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 17, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Sky sports news literally just talking about us Specified that even though we had 10 tested positive, it was never specified how many were players As it stands game is still on All squad and support team will be tested again on Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 14/11/2020 at 18:52, Davefevs said: Guess they are still getting temperature checks and filling in forms each time they report for training / matches? I know a workplace where staff have to take their temperature and fill in a form every time they enter the building, ie every work day. There was a Covid outbreak where one person brought the virus in and spread it around to colleagues over a couple of days. They all had mild symptoms and one or two passed it off as a slight cold/winter sniffles. The first person had a slight cough and went for a test, he was staggered to get a positive result. Following this the rest of the office went for a test, independently not ordered through work, and a further five people were positive, two were negative and one of these went on to show symptoms and had a further test which was positive. My point is, despite temperature taking and recording every day, not one of the people had a change in normal temperature and no alerts were therefore raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedM said: I know a workplace where staff have to take their temperature and fill in a form every time they enter the building, ie every work day. There was a Covid outbreak where one person brought the virus in and spread it around to colleagues over a couple of days. They all had mild symptoms and one or two passed it off as a slight cold/winter sniffles. The first person had a slight cough and went for a test, he was staggered to get a positive result. Following this the rest of the office went for a test, independently not ordered through work, and a further five people were positive, two were negative and one of these went on to show symptoms and had a further test which was positive. My point is, despite temperature taking and recording every day, not one of the people had a change in normal temperature and no alerts were therefore raised. I wasn’t suggesting it was adequate, just a tad more than a lot of people do. Personally ignoring the cost of testing, I’m amazed it’s been relaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Even this is hotly debated - the rate at which the antibodies naturally subside or become of less use has been reported as quite rapid compared to immunity from other causes. But then again Boris is superhuman so I'm sure he's fine . . . It's also not really known if he can still carry the virus and pass it on whilst being immune to the symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, MarcusX said: It's also not really known if he can still carry the virus and pass it on whilst being immune to the symptoms. It makes the decision to allow the England game to go ahead this week ridiculous. Appreciate it’s not city related but our case and the Irish shows how quickly this virus spreads through squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, markcarter said: It is certainly known and has been for many months. Anyone can be asymptomatic and a carrier of infection. There's been a handful of reports worldwide of people catching it a second time, I think at this point it's safe to say it's unknown how common it is to catch it a second time as I guess only people getting regularly tested or in a key position like PM would get a test after already having it once and being asymptomatic By the governments own guidance he shouldn#t have been tested this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, markcarter said: It is certainly known and has been for many months. Anyone can be asymptomatic and a carrier of infection. There's presymptomatic spread too, as another factor to consider... Quick definition pulled off Google. Quote WHO defines asymptomatic spread as when transmission occurs by people who do not have symptoms and will never get them. But these infected carriers could still get others sick. Conversely, presymptomatic spread is transmission by people who don't look or feel sick but will eventually get symptoms later Back on topic, let's hope everyone is fine and the outbreak is contained/limited with no need for postponement Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 WHO defines asymptomatic spread as when transmission occurs by people who do not have symptoms and will never get them. But these infected carriers could still get others sick.next ! What do Pete and Roger know, anyhow ? They'll be telling us to use Medac next ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Dredd said: Not sure that’s the way it’s been working, otherwise whole teams will have been having to isolate. If he gets a negative test result on his return then I guess he’s available. Whether that’s right or not is a different discussion You're probably right - which is fine if there's regular testing. Trouble is, elsewhere on this thread it says that regular testing has been abandoned by the EFL!!! Genius. But good news for us - COD's available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Henry said: How so? You don’t get an outbreak of the size of City’s, especially when you include the women’s, if you have good covid measures. Unfortunately this is proving to be correct. Lightening doesn’t strike twice. Bristol sport would appear to have been very lax and now we could have several players out for a minimum of derby and Watford, potentially much longer than that. They must have a fiscal worth per point won, I wonder how much penny scraping will cost us in these upcoming games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 22 hours ago, Henry said: How so? You don’t get an outbreak of the size of City’s, especially when you include the women’s, if you have good covid measures. Not entirely sure how the women's team are relevant here - I can't see anything to suggest they've had an "outbreak". They've had the manager Tanya Oxtoby test positive. They had one player miss the Manchester City game due to symptoms. Four others were unavailable as they were isolating because they lived in a shared house. Those players all tested negative and resumed training in line with the relevant protocols in place in the WSL. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-bristol-city-women/ https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-bristol-city-women-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Not entirely sure how the women's team are relevant here - I can't see anything to suggest they've had an "outbreak". They've had the manager Tanya Oxtoby test positive. They had one player miss the Manchester City game due to symptoms. Four others were unavailable as they were isolating because they lived in a shared house. Those players all tested negative and resumed training in line with the relevant protocols in place in the WSL. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-bristol-city-women/ https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-bristol-city-women-1/ Two positive cases and you have to inform PHE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshthomson Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Until the club make a statement (doubtful) the reported '10' could be out of a vast amount of employees. May not even include likely first team players. Out of interest do the Ladies team train at Failand? We know Famara was isolating and potentially the way Bakinsons injured was quietly played down could point fingers at him. However both of their Isolation periods will now be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Absolute shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Henry said: Two positive cases and you have to inform PHE. Someone tell my work that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 hours ago, joshthomson said: Out of interest do the Ladies team train at Failand? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 16/11/2020 at 21:32, Henry said: How so? You don’t get an outbreak of the size of City’s, especially when you include the women’s, if you have good covid measures. It doesn’t matter how good your measures are if outside of those measures people do what they want. They can only control (to some extent) what the players do at training and the ground etc but they can’t control outside of that as it’s up to the individuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Very weird that EFL players aren’t being tested twice per week anymore. Seems madness to me to only test if you have symptoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: It doesn’t matter how good your measures are if outside of those measures people do what they want. They can only control (to some extent) what the players do at training and the ground etc but they can’t control outside of that as it’s up to the individuals Well it does. It matters if you set a good president and show people how to correctly manage the situation. A lot of the team are young and impressionable and will follow the lead of the leader. That’s why I am still baffled by them actively marketing the focal point of the whole club being seen in the pub not adhering to social distancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Very weird that EFL players aren’t being tested twice per week anymore. Seems madness to me to only test if you have symptoms It's purely financial. That's a big reason why L1 and L2 didn't resume last season, because the costs of testing made it unviable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 16/11/2020 at 21:32, Henry said: How so? You don’t get an outbreak of the size of City’s, especially when you include the women’s, if you have good covid measures. Surely no football club can have “good Covid measures” because the decision to keep playing matches precludes that. All matches involve around thirty players in close physical contact as a group. That would largely apply to training too, presumably. I can’t see that keeping them distanced inside their changing rooms/gyms/restaurants etc (if they do) is going to make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 The best solution would have been to deliberately infect the entire squad in the close season, keep them all isolated at Failand for 14 days and have a massive COVID party together.....................This approach would have it's downsides of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 So... Freddie Hinds recalled... interesting!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, MarcusX said: Someone tell my work that Mine did and trust me it's a waste of time. They don't offer any useful help. 22 hours ago, RedM said: I know a workplace where staff have to take their temperature and fill in a form every time they enter the building, ie every work day. There was a Covid outbreak where one person brought the virus in and spread it around to colleagues over a couple of days. They all had mild symptoms and one or two passed it off as a slight cold/winter sniffles. The first person had a slight cough and went for a test, he was staggered to get a positive result. Following this the rest of the office went for a test, independently not ordered through work, and a further five people were positive, two were negative and one of these went on to show symptoms and had a further test which was positive. Did they pay then as you are only supposed to order a test independently from the national system if you are symptomatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scare_Man Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Very weird that EFL players aren’t being tested twice per week anymore. Seems madness to me to only test if you have symptoms Especially as we are balls deep in the second wave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: So... Freddie Hinds recalled... interesting!!! Hopefully he plays like he did in the cup run for us against Plymouth and Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: It's purely financial. That's a big reason why L1 and L2 didn't resume last season, because the costs of testing made it unviable. I thought the PFA said they were gonna cover the costs....obviously not. 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: So... Freddie Hinds recalled... interesting!!! I saw that....either Covid related or bad attitude related is the theme on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought the PFA said they were gonna cover the costs....obviously not. I saw that....either Covid related or bad attitude related is the theme on twitter. How can you expect the PFA to fund testing AND at the same time allow Gordon Taylor to buy expensive artwork for his office? Get your priorities straight!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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