Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 20, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 hours ago, nebristolred said: Yes but when they're racing as usual, the impact of lapped cars isn't so bad - there is a marginal impact perhaps for half a lap or so but for the most part it's fine. If they restarted exactly as positioned on track, even from a rolling start, it is far messier. It's always been the way to be fair, under safety car conditions cars can overtake the SC and unlap themselves, so the restart should be no different. It's not fair no, but it's the easiest remedy, short of having cars restart on differing parts of the circuit or something daft like that. Many parts of the sport aren't as fair as they could be. Not saying this about you by the way, but I've never heard people complain about this before, but as soon as Hamilton benefits from it, plenty online all come out against it. Put it this way, you could theoretically restart with Verstappen in first, then 2 painfully-slow Haas cars directly behind, then a mix of the Merc's/Perez/Alpine's. Some would be having blue flags, some wouldn't. It would be a complete mess. Allowing them to unlap themselves fixes that. They could line up on the grid in the formation the race was stopped in and start with those in the places behind the leader going at the time they were behind him when the race started, lapped cars would start from the pit lane and come out after those in front had completed a lap. That idea might need some tweaking, but whilst Hamilton is a brilliant driver, he got two huge advantages in that race, the DRS allowed him to smash the fastest lap, which the lead car was never going to be able to do in the remaining time because of track position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: They could line up on the grid in the formation the race was stopped in and start with those in the places behind the leader going at the time they were behind him when the race started, lapped cars would start from the pit lane and come out after those in front had completed a lap. That idea might need some tweaking, but whilst Hamilton is a brilliant driver, he got two huge advantages in that race, the DRS allowed him to smash the fastest lap, which the lead car was never going to be able to do in the remaining time because of track position. How would that work? If a lap time is 1:20, and a few cars are 1:19 behind, they would be starting with a few cars coming full blast directly behind them, which is about as dangerous a situation as you could get. There's a reason this is the way it's done. And you can complain about Hamilton getting luck all you like, but this happens to drivers every time there is a red flag, why is it only an issue now? Pierre Gasly got incredibly lucky by timing his pit just before Leclerc crashed at Monza last year, and won the race. It's part of the sport and something the teams probably factor in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 20, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, nebristolred said: How would that work? If a lap time is 1:20, and a few cars are 1:19 behind, they would be starting with a few cars coming full blast directly behind them, which is about as dangerous a situation as you could get. There's a reason this is the way it's done. And you can complain about Hamilton getting luck all you like, but this happens to drivers every time there is a red flag, why is it only an issue now? Pierre Gasly got incredibly lucky by timing his pit just before Leclerc crashed at Monza last year, and won the race. It's part of the sport and something the teams probably factor in. I said it would need some tweaking, I am allowed to have the opinion that gaining an advantage after an error, by another drivers error isn’t what I like to see. It wouldn’t be difficult to come up with a solution, it’s an innovative multi million pound business. Maybe DRS should be available to cars in clear air as well, that would give everyone an equal footing on lap times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: I said it would need some tweaking, I am allowed to have the opinion that gaining an advantage after an error, by another drivers error isn’t what I like to see. It wouldn’t be difficult to come up with a solution, it’s an innovative multi million pound business. Maybe DRS should be available to cars in clear air as well, that would give everyone an equal footing on lap times. Of course you are, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise . But if there is a better way of doing it, then by all means they could or should trial it, but it's been this way for years with no question, probably because there's no other easy solution. And I'm sure they leave it this way to restore a bit of excitement as well. Luck theoretically should balance out on this over a career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 22, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 I got the following email, not sure if of interest to anyone CLICK HERE TO ACCESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 A bit in the future, but I see Red Bull have announced they will be developing and building their own engines aiming for the 2026 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 28, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Canadian GP out of the calander, replaced by Turkey 11-13 J7ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Lando Norris in third place. Was he the driver that SL/Bristol Sport used to sponsor? Would he be interested in a Robins sticker on his car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, TomF said: Even by Monaco’s standards this is an absolute borefest. Either they need to come up with a better track or just remove it from the calendar Agreed. Too many playing it safe and taking virtually no chances to overtake. Even Hamilton didn't/couldn't really do much. 24 minutes ago, Midred said: Lando Norris in third place. Was he the driver that SL/Bristol Sport used to sponsor? Would he be interested in a Robins sticker on his car? Yep Norris signs up for Bristol Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TomF said: Even by Monaco’s standards this is an absolute borefest. Either they need to come up with a better track or just remove it from the calendar The cars have outgrown the track the problem is the whole prestige of Monaco means we’re probably stuck with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Midred said: Lando Norris in third place. Was he the driver that SL/Bristol Sport used to sponsor? You're not thinking of Dino Zamparelli by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted June 6, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Oh dear Pirelli, looks like another race screwed up by tyre failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 06/06/2021 at 15:05, Maesknoll Red said: Oh dear Pirelli, looks like another race screwed up by tyre failures. And the outcome of the investigation is that the failures were caused by debris. What an absolute load of rubbish, who on earth could have come up with that conclusion.... Oh Pirelli were investigating themselves that explains it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted June 10, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 hours ago, OneTeamInBristol said: And the outcome of the investigation is that the failures were caused by debris. What an absolute load of rubbish, who on earth could have come up with that conclusion.... Oh Pirelli were investigating themselves that explains it! Did you see the tyre on Stroll’s car - looked like the side wall had detached, it would be interesting to see the actual reports on the tyres, including those that didn’t fail, but had done similar laps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Did you see the tyre on Stroll’s car - looked like the side wall had detached, it would be interesting to see the actual reports on the tyres, including those that didn’t fail, but had done similar laps. I did see that, looked like a total failure of the tyre. Well Red Bull stated they had absolutely no warning from the data before Verstappens let go, as you say wonder how many others may have failed if the race was a few laps longer. Reminded me of Silverstone a few years back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted July 3, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 Looks like a hell of a party in the Red Bull Ring today, Orange shirts, orange smoke flares and plenty of beer by the look of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 23 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Looks like a hell of a party in the Red Bull Ring today, Orange shirts, orange smoke flares and plenty of beer by the look of it. And that rendition of the National Anthem was one of the greatest things I've ever seen! Watching the various dignitaries etc. trying to look serious through it was funny as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Lando robbed of 2nd with a joke penalty today. Superb drive by him to get back past Hamilton and get 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted July 4, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 The Dutch Grand Prix is going to be some scene, how much orange smoke will there be? Max absolutely bossed it, but a great drive from Lando. Really looking forward to Silverstone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Think I predicted a Hamilton Championship but Red Bull constructors Championship on a poll somewhere before the season. Starting to think I might have had it the wrong was around. I know Red Bull are ahead, but Bottas had a nightmare with various bits of bad luck through the start of the season which would have left them almost identical. Edited July 4, 2021 by JamesBCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 No Australia GP this year again due to the pandemic, shame as it's a great track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Dirty move by Lewis. Glad Max is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, RedM said: Dirty move by Lewis. Glad Max is ok Strange how we see things differently isn't it.Looked to me like Max cut across the front of Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Definitely looks like Max has tried to shut the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Red Bull acting like ******* here. A racing incident and trying to portray it that LH tried to kill Max. OTT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Great race by lewis to take the win, but I think we missed out on a decent battle between him and Max which was a shame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 It's a racing incident. Lewis did the same move on Leclerc right at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Karma is a bitch, how many accidents has verstappen caused inthe past because of his aggressive unpredictable driving. He has improved it has to be said but what goes around comes around. Glad he is okay, it would have been better watching a full race, but judging how Hamilton's car reacted to turbulent air I'm not sure he would have taken him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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