lenred Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s how I see it. He ought to be able to go there (based on his own view of his capabilities) and take them straight up. People will be expecting him to get them up. The minimum they’ll expect is play-offs. Its a bit like Mark Ashton with Holden’s appointment. His recruitment skills questioned if he gets it wrong, when they contacted 10 others. As I said I expect LJ to get them to the playoffs, he “only” needs to improve them one place. Starts with a home game v Wigan (bottom of the league). Do they have any crowd allowed today? Yep this will be a good test of his proclamations of how good a coach he is. Going to be very interesting to see how he performs and fair play if he does get them up but he’s not going to get the myriad of chances he had down here that’s for sure. Big gamble for him. Fail there and he won’t get another job at a decent sized club again I don’t think. If he does well then he’ll get some very decent opportunities in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, BigTone said: Good luck to him. Hope it all goes well. Agreed. He has no track record or history there and they aren’t shy about booting gaffers who don’t get results, so he’ll rise and fall on how good he actually is. Don’t get those still aiming shots at him; like others have said, did his best, wasn’t good enough so he went. Sunderland will want to go up ASAP so will either be the making or breaking of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 I think Cotts would have been a better choice for Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 I am happy for LJ and happy that City no longer have to pay his wages for the long contract he signed before being sacked. Good luck LJ and thanks for everything you gave to City . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Good luck to him, if he can stop over thinking the opposition and playing players out of position then he could do a good job for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Good luck to him. Gonna have to do something he's never done before and that's get a team into the play offs (as a minimum). He won't get multiple goes at that, so for his sake lets hope he's learnt from his time here; be very interesting to hear his first interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Good luck to LJ, hope he is a success with the mackems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, Harry said: Only thing I’d pick up on is the away form. We weren’t just good in patches under LJ. We were probably one of the most successful away teams in the country during his tenure. If so, then with no play off finishes it just reinforces how poor we must have been at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Henry said: I think Cotts would have been a better choice for Sunderland. I think that ship sailed last time he left there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Good luck to him, if he can stop over thinking the opposition and playing players out of position then he could do a good job for them. Reading that the newly appointed Director of Football Kristjaan Speakman would ‘take primary responsibility for reviewing and implementing new strategies to develop the club’s footballing infrastructure, with an emphasis on data analytics and innovation’ it would appear to be a tailor made job for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: If so, then with no play off finishes it just reinforces how poor we must have been at home. Yep. We were. That’s what I always said. If he’d satisfied the home fans as much as he had done our away fans, he’d probably be seen in a much different light by many. The home form was his ultimate downfall in terms of the ‘hearts & minds’ as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Maybe the time away from managing, doing media work etc might have done him some good, hopefully he will have taken stock on what he achieved with us and how he could be better in the future. For a start, I don't think the Mackems will take too kindly to the waffle (aka 'Johnsonisms') that he used to come out with. He'll need to cut that out. He'll also need to take stock of the squad quickly to understand where they are deficient and establish a playing pattern and formation quickly. Endless rotations of players won't work in L1. He will need a work ethic and a structure from his team selections that at times was missing with us. Above all, he'll need a 'back to basics' approach. Players in the right positions, no throwing players under the bus, trust in his own ability away from the SL bubble, and who knows? Will he get them up this season? I can't see it. Play offs? Maybe, this will be a minimum requirement you would think. Then the pressure will build, as past history suggests that patience isn't in abundance in the North East. Anyone know if there are any more documentaries planned with Netflix? As the chance to appear on those will massive inflate his ego. As for 5Live calling his appointment a 'coup', good to see the bar has been set at a relatively low level.... SC vs LJ later this month will be interesting....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 LJ has certainly picked a crowd pleasing starting XI. Full of attacking promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: LJ has certainly picked a crowd pleasing starting XI. Full of attacking promise! It’s gone down well with the fans , Aiden McGeady returns to the the team (although there seems to be some doubt over his contract situation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: It’s gone down well with the fans , Aiden McGeady returns to the the team (although there seems to be some doubt over his contract situation) Losing 0-1 now. Not sure if that’ll go down as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Low odds on Massengo going there on loan in January I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Horrible result for LJ... especially when you look at Wigan’s stats: 1 attempt on goal. Sunderland 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Still doesn't know how to win at home then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Horrible result for LJ... especially when you look at Wigan’s stats: 1 attempt on goal. Sunderland 17. The stats were similar when the s*gs scabbed a point up there. Too much pressure on the strikers perhaps making them nervous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Horrible result for LJ... especially when you look at Wigan’s stats: 1 attempt on goal. Sunderland 17. No, you can’t cash out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, you can’t cash out Don’t think the manager can be to blame for that one, sometimes it just isn’t your day! He must be gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: Don’t think the manager can be to blame for that one, sometimes it just isn’t your day! He must be gutted No blame insinuated in most post. Fordy and me have a bet on. I said LJ will get them top 6, he said they wouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 I'm amazed he couldn't work his magic in the four hours he's been manager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Just now, Red-Robbo said: I'm amazed he couldn't work his magic in the four hours he's been manager.... Assume you mean because their shots are still up in the double digits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm amazed he couldn't work his magic in the four hours he's been manager.... I did think that Robbo but then why take charge at all? Possibly if one was being mischievous you might say that they were playing the bottom club in the Division and as such he felt a mark in his win column was a given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Apparently Houghton's still work in progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No blame insinuated in most post. Fordy and me have a bet on. I said LJ will get them top 6, he said they wouldn’t. I'm with you..........top six it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm amazed he couldn't work his magic in the four hours he's been manager.... Spot on. I think he was mad to say he was in charge today because realistically he couldn’t have much influence beyond picking players he hasn’t seen, but I think the opponents & his ego persuaded him to. Whatever he does up there today isn’t really down to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Spot on. I think he was mad to say he was in charge today because realistically he couldn’t have much influence beyond picking players he hasn’t seen, but I think the opponents & his ego persuaded him to. Whatever he does up there today isn’t really down to him. I wonder if he took charge of today because it was against Wigan. Like him or loath him, it’s the sort of decision he’d make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 Probably mentioned before in the thread but some of the bullshitbingo in the announcement sounds like LJ himself wrote it. Good luck to him, but please show some more humility and self awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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